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12-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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GDT-Blues v Flames

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It appears as if Andy Murray in his infinite wisdom is shifting Perron with Johnson and Hinote. Let me guess, after he fails to generate any offense this game in the 8 minutes he'll play with those 2 offensive stiffs, he'll be on his way back to the pressbox



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12-16-2007, 05:36 PM
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12-16-2007, 05:37 PM
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Andy McDonald! Welcome to the Blues...assisted by Brewer


BTW: Murray is still generating the offensive game by giving Perron Hinote and Johnson. In his less than 3 minutes of playing time this period, Perron managed to set up Hinote, who surprisingly didn't score

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12-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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First period over.

David Perron has seen a whopping 3 shifts and 1 minute and 44 seconds of ice time with Hinote and Johnson.

There was a one single penalty called against each team that period.

Way to coach the youngsters, jackoff

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For God's sake, Checker - what line is he going to play against tonight? Look at Calgary's team, look at their forward combinations, look at who they rolled in the first period, and tell me who he was supposed to play against that he would have played 5-7 minutes.

Iginla-Langkow-Huselius? Nolan-Conroy-Tanguay? Yelle-Lombardi-Nystrom? Which of those combinations would have been ideal to throw a kid who's got 18 NHL games against, ignoring the fact that Phaneuf would go out of his way to plaster him against the boards or ice if he gets a chance.

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12-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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For God's sake, Checker - what line is he going to play against tonight? Look at Calgary's team, look at their forward combinations, look at who they rolled in the first period, and tell me who he was supposed to play against that he would have played 5-7 minutes.
If Murray thinks Perron aboslutely can't match up against the majority of the oppostitions' players, why dress him. The fact is that every game Perron has played he's generated some offensive chances. Are there weaknesses in Perron's game. Absolutely, but it's hard to improve on those when the coach's philosophy is to bench him rather than let him grow. Face friggin facts. Playing Perron with Hinote and Johnson is something Mike Kitchen would have done and everyone (yourself included) would have ripped him for. Because Murray is generally liked, we're now defending this same strategy as match-up problems...unbelievable

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That said, I'd like to know at what point people will quit looking at Salvador's +/- rating of +10 and realize his defensive play is just brutal at times [like on that last goal].

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If Murray thinks Perron aboslutely can't match up against the majority of the oppostitions' players, why dress him. The fact is that every game Perron has played he's generated some offensive chances. Are there weaknesses in Perron's game. Absolutely, but it's hard to improve on those when the coach's philosophy is to bench him rather than let him grow. Face friggin facts. Playing Perron with Hinote and Johnson is something Mike Kitchen would have done and everyone (yourself included) would have ripped him for. Because Murray is generally liked, we're now defending this same strategy as match-up problems...unbelievable
Because I'm not ripping him for playing Perron on a 4th line right now doesn't mean I approve of the move. No, I'd rather if he can't trust him to play with these guys, he sat Perron in the press box [to which you'd complain about as well] ... but he didn't. Given that he didn't, I don't know what a "good" line to match him up against would be.

[Though as I type this, he's out against Iginla's line and did a decent job of keeping the Flames at bay.]

The difference between Murray and Kitchen: Murray makes no guarantees about where a guy's going to play. Kitchen would have talked about how Perron had all kinds of skill and was a guy who the Blues would count on to fill a top-6 forward spot, then stuck him on the 4th line for 5-7 games in a row, then scratched him and cited his lack of production.

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12-16-2007, 06:08 PM
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Perron beautifully sets up Hinote...again
Hinote misses...again
Who knows maybe a Backes or Stempniak finishes those and we'd be up...?

I guess I don't get the matching of Perron based on Perron's defensive weaknesses. No matter what line Perron plays on, he's going to be a wildcard defensively. The difference is if he plays with a 4th line, not only is he going to be a wildcard defensively, but most of the offense he can generate will be neutered due to insufficient linemates.

While Murray doesn't talk about Perron needing to play on a certain line, he does give the old "your minutes re based on your play and effort bs" If that was true, we both know that Perron would play more than 1:44 in a first period.

That said, as far as Salvador goes, lets hope other teams are blinded by his+/- until at least the trade deadline. I can't see him being in the Blues plans beyond this season. At least, I hope he's not in our plans


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MacD sets up Brad Boyes


JD looks like a genius right now.



EDIT: Stempniak!

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Go Blue!

REALLY wish I had center ice....lousy poverty.

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REALLY wish I had center ice....lousy poverty.
I hear you bro. Listening to KMOX online. and watching the game Barney style....Use your imagination.....

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12-16-2007, 06:24 PM
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I hear you bro. Listening to KMOX online. and watching the game Barney style....Use your imagination.....
I put on the Calgary radio feed, hoping it would be better.....it wasn't

I'd like to have seen Bryce's fight just now.....I don't think I've EVER seen that kind of passion out of him...

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12-16-2007, 06:26 PM
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That said, I'd like to know at what point people will quit looking at Salvador's +/- rating of +10 and realize his defensive play is just brutal at times [like on that last goal].
Comment of the month. Thank you for injecting some objectivity and realism into these boards.

Also, I've never heard more biased commentators. (I'm watching the game on NHLCI.) Absolutely ridiculously skewed comments; almost as bad as watching Faux News.

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Comment of the month. Thank you for injecting some objectivity and realism into these boards.

Also, I've never heard more biased commentators. (I'm watching the game on NHLCI.) Absolutely ridiculously skewed comments; almost as bad as watching Faux News.
Clearly Boyes should've been called for a 5 minute pwning penalty!

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I put on the Calgary radio feed, hoping it would be better.....it wasn't

I'd like to have seen Bryce's fight just now.....I don't think I've EVER seen that kind of passion out of him...
Thank goodness Eric doesn't fight like his dad. Bobby could REALLY bring it. Catch some of his work on Youtube.

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12-16-2007, 06:29 PM
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My God, Backman sucks


Brewer though...is playing strong for the second straight game

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Spoke too soon on Brewer...wow 3-3

Backman though...still sucks

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Salvador is the LEAST of our problems! He won't be back next year, so it's pointless to even make it some big deal.

Salvador: +10, 8 pts. sal.=1.5 mil.
Brewer: -6, 8 pts. sal.=4.5 mil.
Backman: -5, 6 pts. sal.=2.2 mil.
Jackman: -12, 3 pts. sal.=2.2 mil.

Salvador is the LEAST of our issues on D!

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Spoke too soon on Brewer...wow

Backman though...still sucks
You should have known Eric would be up to his old tricks when he was +2 in the game. That can't be. It will mess up his aura.

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Salvador is the LEAST of our problems! He won't be back next year, so it's pointless to even make it some big deal.

Salvador: +10, 8 pts. sal.=1.5 mil.
Brewer: -6, 8 pts. sal.=4.5 mil.
Backman: -5, 6 pts. sal.=2.2 mil.
Jackman: -12, 3 pts. sal.=2.2 mil.

Salvador is the LEAST of our issues on D!
Salvador has been excellent all season. Interestingly the Calgary broadcasters think Jackman is back to his Calder for this season.

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At least Walt will show up in the box score now.

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Salvador has been excellent all season. Interestingly the Calgary broadcasters think Jackman is back to his Calder for this season.

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At least Walt will show up in the box score now.
He's gonna help me kick ass in my fantasy league....go PIM!

Might sweep this week if I could just get a PPG or two..

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