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12-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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It always turns into a english player vs french player. It's unreal.

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It always turns into a english player vs french player. It's unreal.
What the ****? Waffledave and I never made any reference to Lapierre being a French player. Way to stir **** up for no reason. It's idiots like you who turn stuff political for no reason at all. Wow, pathetic.

Unless you were joking, then I will laugh.

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It always turns into a english player vs french player. It's unreal.
What????

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12-27-2007, 11:28 PM
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You do realize that when you play TB and the 1st line isn't on you will pretty much match up pretty well against them.

I think on some nights Koivu with the two 20 year olds can be trouble.
That's because Koivu is amazing with SKOST and he's always been good with Latendresse.

I hope to see them play together more.

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12-27-2007, 11:31 PM
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What the ****? Waffledave and I never made any reference to Lapierre being a French player. Way to stir **** up for no reason. It's idiots like you who turn stuff political for no reason at all. Wow, pathetic.

Unless you were joking, then I will laugh.
That's a rubbish attitude to have. Innocent until proven guilty and all.

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It always turns into a english player vs french player. It's unreal.
Please show me 3 people on these boards that would argue that Laps is a better 3rd line option at centre then Chipchura!

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12-27-2007, 11:32 PM
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Just wondering what you guys think should be done when begin and smolinski get back. I for one would sit smolinski because i feel chipchura took his 3rd line center spot and then Lappy has taken his 4th line center spot. But I would put begin in as a fourth liner and have him and lappy going around and causing havoc on our fourth line

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12-27-2007, 11:33 PM
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Just wondering what you guys think should be done when begin and smolinski get back. I for one would sit smolinski because i feel chipchura took his 3rd line center spot and then Lappy has taken his 4th line center spot. But I would put begin in as a fourth liner and have him and lappy going around and causing havoc on our fourth line
Same. I'd waive Smoke actually.

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12-27-2007, 11:37 PM
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I really don't think these lines will work out in the long-term. Higgins, Ryder (he's still here?) on the third line? Lapierre on the third line, with Chipchura scratched? Lapierre's demonstrated his abilities to play on the fourth line, not the third, and I don't really understand what he's done here to deserve playing over Chipchura, who seemed settled down on the third line.

I preferred the two Kostitsyns, Kovalev, and Higgins as the top four wingers, with Latendresse on the third line... Chipchura's a big guy and can feed Latendresse, as he has shown he's capable of doing. Lapierre's goal tonight was as convincing of his abilities as his four points in four games last season or his eight in three with Hamilton this season -- neat at first, but will it last?

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12-27-2007, 11:38 PM
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Latendresse produces with Koivu EVERY time he's put with him. It's time to leave him be in a scoring role. If anyone can turn him into a productive player, it's Koivu.

Leave that first line together. It WORKS.

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12-28-2007, 12:05 AM
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Latendresse produces with Koivu EVERY time he's put with him. It's time to leave him be in a scoring role. If anyone can turn him into a productive player, it's Koivu.

Leave that first line together. It WORKS.
Can't really deny that, nor would I argue against it, because you're right: it does work. I just don't like the idea of Higgins playing on the third line, who, despite being in a slump, is still second on our team in goals.

It's really a tough decision (for me) to make, because the wingers are playing above third-line roles, and thus placing them on the third line is hard. Sergei's got 5 points in 7 games, Andrei's got 10 points in his last 10 games, and Guillaume's got three goals in his last four games. Higgins doesn't seem even remotely close to dropping off like Ryder, so I'm not keen on seeing him demoted.

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12-28-2007, 12:10 AM
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Can't really deny that, nor would I argue against it, because you're right: it does work. I just don't like the idea of Higgins playing on the third line, who, despite being in a slump, is still second on our team in goals.

It's really a tough decision (for me) to make, because the wingers are playing above third-line roles, and thus placing them on the third line is hard. Sergei's got 5 points in 7 games, Andrei's got 10 points in his last 10 games, and Guillaume's got three goals in his last four games. Higgins doesn't seem even remotely close to dropping off like Ryder, so I'm not keen on seeing him demoted.
Is it really a demotion?

The top 3 lines player equal minutes. It may be a 3rd line on paper, but Carbo seems fixated on giving Lapierre obscene amounts of icetime. Up there with Koivu and Kovalev. That line ends up with near 20 minutes of icetime a game.

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12-28-2007, 12:12 AM
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IMO, when it comes to forwards, no one should get more icetime then Kovalev, especially if we are trailing by one or two goals. Kovalev does not need anyone to create/finish a play. Koivu is just as great, but his finishing is not up to par though.

After those two, its not as clear cut though.

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It always turns into a english player vs french player. It's unreal.
What the ****...



That's one of the most ironicaly funny post I've seen in a while.

I'm realy laughing out loud and cant stop.

Reread the thread....it's not about language....it's about religion....

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What the ****...



That's one of the most ironicaly funny post I've seen in a while.

I'm realy laughing out loud and cant stop.

Reread the thread....it's not about language....it's about religion....
This guy just can't accept that a Muslim like Chipchura should be on the 3rd line!

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12-28-2007, 02:09 AM
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Almost perfect.

Andrei Kostitsyn - Tomas Plekaneec - Alex Kovalev
Guiuallame Latendresse - Saku Koivu - Sergei Kostitsyn
Christopher Higgins - Kyle Chipchura - Michael Ryder
Mark Streit - Maxim Lapierre - Tom Kostopolous
Begin, Smolinski

Though, I do like Dandenault this year. If O'Bryne, Bouillon, or Gorges start struggling... Put Streit back on D and Dandy into the lineup.

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12-28-2007, 02:30 AM
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I like Higgins on the third line. It fits his role so much better. He is more effective with more agressive players and grinders, because of his work ethic and work on the boards. He elevated the third line's play today, they had a number of good chances and scored one goal. I think putting Higgins in a different role pulled out his true colors, which is great two way, transistion and forechecking abilities, plus bonus PP and PP skills. By having S Kostitsyn and Latendresse on the first line we have two more skilled players on that line, which gives us a better and more balanced attack.

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12-28-2007, 02:35 AM
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Almost perfect.

Andrei Kostitsyn - Tomas Plekaneec - Alex Kovalev
Guiuallame Latendresse - Saku Koivu - Sergei Kostitsyn
Christopher Higgins - Kyle Chipchura - Michael Ryder
Mark Streit - Maxim Lapierre - Tom Kostopolous
Begin, Smolinski

Though, I do like Dandenault this year. If O'Bryne, Bouillon, or Gorges start struggling... Put Streit back on D and Dandy into the lineup.
That is the line-up I like as well. Very well rounded and balanced. While also using players' strengths effectively.

Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-O'byrne
Bouillion-Gorges
Brisebois
Dandenault

One or two of these fringe players will have to be moved due to roster limits. I would move Begin, just out of odd man out reasons, and because of Smolinski's NTC.

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Change Lapierre with Chipchura and they are perfect.

Lapierre on the 4th with Kosto and Begin (when he comes back).
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12-28-2007, 02:50 AM
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Just for the record..for the people that say Lapierre is bigger than Chipchura..
Chip..6'2 205
Laps..6'2 195

As per TSN.ca

I agree Chipchura should be there instead of Lapierre..
Thank God we were already up by a lot when TB started scoring..because we saw how clueless Kostopoulos was as a Centerman..we he gave up the puck and they scored..

The lines were pretty good..no one can argue that any line played particularly bad tonight..
Its all pretty easy when you beat the 2nd worst team in the league..not to mention they played in Washington the night before..
And 2 of our goals were fluke deflections...

Im not impressed..i thought we played okay..but lets not kid ourselves..if we played the same way vs Ottawa..we'd be losing after 10min..
Nonetheless we won..the lines did look good regardless, so we'll see how we do vs Florida

But the funniest move is really putting kostopoulos as a centerman..Carbo is such a freak sometimes

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Carbo plays Lapierre 20 minutes a night. It's practically a 1st line.
Carbo plays him 15 minutes a night, just like all the other 3rd liners.

I really wish people would stop making up stats like that, they're so easy to disprove.


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Carbo plays him 15 minutes a night, just like all the other 3rd liners.

I really wish people would stop making up stats like that, they're so easy to disprove.
People exaggerate because making Lapierre play only about 1-2min under Kovalev and Koivu is pretty darn stoooopid..
Win or Lose..he uses all 3lines pretty evenly at ES..

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Change Lapierre with Chipchura and they are perfect.

Lapierre on the 4th with Kosto and Begin (when he comes back).
See im gonna have to 100% absolutely agree on this, Higgins - Chipchura - Ryder?

Cant go wrong with that, Like the other guy said, Lapierre shoots first, Chipchura is more likely to pass

Lappierre 4th line center with WHOEVVER the hell you want?, and you got winning lines man

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Just for the record..for the people that say Lapierre is bigger than Chipchura..
Chip..6'2 205
Laps..6'2 195

As per TSN.ca

I agree Chipchura should be there instead of Lapierre..
Thank God we were already up by a lot when TB started scoring..because we saw how clueless Kostopoulos was as a Centerman..we he gave up the puck and they scored..

The lines were pretty good..no one can argue that any line played particularly bad tonight..
Its all pretty easy when you beat the 2nd worst team in the league..not to mention they played in Washington the night before..
And 2 of our goals were fluke deflections...

Im not impressed..i thought we played okay..but lets not kid ourselves..if we played the same way vs Ottawa..we'd be losing after 10min..
Nonetheless we won..the lines did look good regardless, so we'll see how we do vs Florida

But the funniest move is really putting kostopoulos as a centerman..Carbo is such a freak sometimes
Way to downgrade a great win. This is the best game the team played in the trip so far and no we wouldnt be losing after 10 mins playing like that against OTT. Tampa didnt even had one good scoring chance all night except on the 1st goal and Huet was lost on the second one. Give credit when its due.

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