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01-02-2008, 07:04 PM
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Boston Bruins

Protected:

Savard
Bergeron
Sturm
Kobasew
Murray
Axelsson
Schaefer
Nokelainen

Chara
Wideman
Ference
Stuart
Alberts

Fernandez (assuming this is either before or after the season, so the Bruins wouldn't be left with an injured Fernandez as their only Goaltender)

Exempt
Kessel
Lucic
Sobotka
Krejci

Lashoff
Hunwick

Rask

Unprotected
Bochenski
Metropolit (UFA)
Thornton
Reich

Ward (UFA)

Thomas (That hurts, but I still think Manny is the better Goalie and we can't afford to only be able to protect 3 Defenseman)
Auld

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01-02-2008, 07:51 PM
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Nashville Protected/Unprotected List

Nashville Predators

Protected List:

Goaltender (1)
Pekka Rinne

Defensemen (5)
Dan Hamhuis
Shea Weber
Ryan Suter
Kevin Klein
Greg Zanon

Forwards (9)
Jason Arnott
David Legwand
Radek Bonk
Martin Erat
J.P. Dumont
Jordin Tootoo
Jed Ortmeyer
Vernon Fiddler
Scott Nichol

Unprotected List

Goaltenders (2)
Chris Mason
Dan Ellis

Defensemen (4)
Greg DeVries
Marek Zidlicky
Alex Henry
Nolan Yonkman

Forwards (5)
Martin Gelinas
Darcy Hordichuk
Jerred Smithson
Josh Langfeld
Shane Willis

Exempted List
D - Ville Koistinen
F - Alexander Radulov

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01-02-2008, 08:11 PM
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For the record, the defence and goaltending I can put toggether using only the 19 teams in this thread are amazing for an expansion team.

Goalies
Martin Gerber (OTT chooses to protect the younger Emery and 9-5-1)
Dominik Hasek (DET also wants to go 9-5-1 and picks Howard their future)
Jaroslav Halak (MTL too 9-5-1 protects Huet)

Defensemen
Eric Brewer (STL goes 7-3-2 and one poster in this thread decided not to protect him)
Paul Mara (NYR also goes 7-3-2, Tyutin, Girardi, Rozsival)
Adam Foote (same story 7-3-2, Klesla, Hainsey, Hejda)
Marek Zidlicky (NSH just has better Ds)
Karlis Skrastins (COL has better Ds)
M-A Bergeron (Struggling but lots of potential)
Steve Eminger (Struggling but los of potential)
Ian White (TOR has better Ds)

And thats only with 19 NHL teams.

Solid. Solid. Solid. The forwards, not so much though. It could feature Tkachuk, Straka, Kapanen, Gelinas and a bunch of crap.

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01-02-2008, 11:12 PM
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For the record, the defence and goaltending I can put toggether using only the 19 teams in this thread are amazing for an expansion team.

Goalies
Martin Gerber (OTT chooses to protect the younger Emery and 9-5-1)
Dominik Hasek (DET also wants to go 9-5-1 and picks Howard their future)
Jaroslav Halak (MTL too 9-5-1 protects Huet)

Defensemen
Eric Brewer (STL goes 7-3-2 and one poster in this thread decided not to protect him)
Paul Mara (NYR also goes 7-3-2, Tyutin, Girardi, Rozsival)
Adam Foote (same story 7-3-2, Klesla, Hainsey, Hejda)
Marek Zidlicky (NSH just has better Ds)
Karlis Skrastins (COL has better Ds)
M-A Bergeron (Struggling but lots of potential)
Steve Eminger (Struggling but los of potential)
Ian White (TOR has better Ds)

And thats only with 19 NHL teams.

Solid. Solid. Solid. The forwards, not so much though. It could feature Tkachuk, Straka, Kapanen, Gelinas and a bunch of crap.
Montreal would protect Halak over Huet. You would have to be stupid to protect an upcoming UFA.

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01-02-2008, 11:14 PM
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To each their own I guess, but since this would have likely happended before the start of this season, I highly doubt Gainey would have left Begin, Kosto, Bouillon and especially Huet and Ryder unprotected.

As for Dandenault, if you're getting rid of Ryder, Begin, Kosto, just put Dandy in one of those forward spots... instead of losing Bouillon. Dandy is a forward now anyway.

Halak, yah it would be hard to lose him for free but if this draft happens prior to the 07-08 season, theres no way in hell Gainey protects Halak over Huet.......
I was under the impression if this were to be held before next season, in which case Gainey would not protect Huet, much like Smith didn't protect Richter in 1998.

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01-02-2008, 11:20 PM
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I was under the impression if this were to be held before next season, in which case Gainey would not protect Huet, much like Smith didn't protect Richter in 1998.
Its a different story if this draft is held in July 2008 - I agree with you that Halak would be protected over an UFA.

BUT if this happens in Oct 07, theres no way Gainey goes into the season with two rookies. Theres no way Gainey leaves Huet exposed, losing him would be like throwing the season away.

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01-02-2008, 11:44 PM
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Its a different story if this draft is held in July 2008 - I agree with you that Halak would be protected over an UFA.

BUT if this happens in Oct 07, theres no way Gainey goes into the season with two rookies. Theres no way Gainey leaves Huet exposed, losing him would be like throwing the season away.
agreed. To my best recollection though expansion drafts are usually held before the entry draft, in which case any such scenario would be irrelevant to the current rosters if held before the 07/08 season. This would inevitably mean montreal leaves guys like Samsonov and Souray unprotected while guys like Kostopolous and Hamrlik would not even be on the team yet, and Halak would be protected leaving Aebischer exposed

the last expansion draft was in 2000 for the Wild/Blue Jackets and it was held on June 23, one day before the entry drafts. So either way halak would be protected, we would have jus exposed Abby instead.

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01-02-2008, 11:59 PM
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Protected
Datsyuk
Zetterberg
Holmstrom
Hudler
Filppula
Cleary
Samuelsson
Franzen
Draper

Lidstrom
Rafalski
Kronwall
Lebda
Lilja

Hasek


So that leaves guys like Maltby, Osgood, Kopecky and Chelios available.
i would do the same. exept, i would easily protect osgood over hasek...

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01-03-2008, 12:06 AM
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Sabres

Protected List:

Goaltender (1)
Ryan Miller

Defensemen (5)
Spacek
Serjka
Tallinder
Lydman
Paetsch

Forwards (9)
Vanek
Roy
Conolly
Afinogenov
Hecht
Kotalik
Pominville
Gaustad
MacArthur

Exempt:
Stafford
Weber

Unprotected:
Campbell UFA
Kalinin UFA
Pratt UFA
Ryan UFA
Thibault UFA
Mair
Paille
Peters

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01-03-2008, 12:56 AM
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For the record, the defence and goaltending I can put toggether using only the 19 teams in this thread are amazing for an expansion team.

Goalies
Martin Gerber (OTT chooses to protect the younger Emery and 9-5-1)
Dominik Hasek (DET also wants to go 9-5-1 and picks Howard their future)
Jaroslav Halak (MTL too 9-5-1 protects Huet)

Defensemen
Eric Brewer (STL goes 7-3-2 and one poster in this thread decided not to protect him)
Paul Mara (NYR also goes 7-3-2, Tyutin, Girardi, Rozsival)
Adam Foote (same story 7-3-2, Klesla, Hainsey, Hejda)
Marek Zidlicky (NSH just has better Ds)
Karlis Skrastins (COL has better Ds)
M-A Bergeron (Struggling but lots of potential)
Steve Eminger (Struggling but los of potential)
Ian White (TOR has better Ds)

And thats only with 19 NHL teams.

Solid. Solid. Solid. The forwards, not so much though. It could feature Tkachuk, Straka, Kapanen, Gelinas and a bunch of crap.
While a lot of it is UFA talent, there's something to be said for having even one week of exclusive negotiating rights, and there are some solid names available, but obviously none of them are particularly stellar and most have already seen their better days pass by.

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01-03-2008, 01:03 AM
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While a lot of it is UFA talent, there's something to be said for having even one week of exclusive negotiating rights, and there are some solid names available, but obviously none of them are particularly stellar and most have already seen their better days pass by.
Don't you also get an extra pick even if the player is signed?

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01-03-2008, 02:14 AM
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Forwards
Ales Hemsky
Shawn Horcoff
Dustin Penner
Sam Gagner
Andrew Cogliano
Robert Nilsson
Ethan Moreau
Fernando Pisani
Marty Reasoner

Defense
Joni Pitkanen
Tom Gilbert
Denis Grebeshkov
Ladislav Smid
Matt Greene

Goal

Mathieu Garon

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Don't you also get an extra pick even if the player is signed?
Nopers, they dropped that in the new CBA.

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Forwards
Ales Hemsky
Shawn Horcoff
Dustin Penner
Sam Gagner
Andrew Cogliano

Robert Nilsson
Ethan Moreau
Fernando Pisani
Marty Reasoner

Defense
Joni Pitkanen
Tom Gilbert
Denis Grebeshkov
Ladislav Smid
Matt Greene

Goal

Mathieu Garon
The bolded players would be exempt under the 1st/2nd year professional provision

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Forwards
protected: Doan, Reinprecht, Sjostrom, Carcillo, Vrbata**, Weller, Perrault/Zigomanis(one)
exempt: Mueller, Hanzal, Winnik, Lisin, Kaigorodov
exposed: York*, Thomas*, Kapanen*, Tjarnqvist*, Gratton, Perrault/Zigomanis(one)


Defense
protected: Morris, Ballard, Michalek, Jones, Jovonovski
exempt: Yandle, Stephenson
exposed: Boynton, Roche*, Bell*


Goalers
protected: Bryzgalov**
exempt: Tjordman
exposed: Tellqvist, Aebischer*

* Impending UFA
** Assumes UFA resigned.

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Nopers, they dropped that in the new CBA.
If there is an expansion draft in the future, it'll be very interesting to see how teams treat their pending UFAs. Last draft, teams went heavy on pending free agents, and received the extra picks. This time around, they don't get that, and, I would venture to guess that expansion teams aren't in a great position to sign the big name free agents, even with exclusive negotiating period they'd get by drafting them in the expansion draft.

If a team could turn around and trade the player to another team, that can make a serious run at signing the free agent, they may be able to get returns like Nashville got with the Hartnell/Timonen deals though.

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Forwards
Kariya
Stempniak
Boyes
McClement
Mayers
McDonald
Backes (R. Johnson if Backes is exempt)

Defensemen
McKee
Salvador
Jackman (Pending UFA; Brewer if Jackman is gone.)

Goaltenders
Legace
Toivonen
I largely agree, with a few tweaks.

Forward: Kariya, Stempniak, Boyes, McClement, Mayers, McDonald, Keith Tkachuk
Defense: McKee, Eric Brewer, Jeff Woywitka
Goalie: Legace, Toivonen

Exempt: David Backes (F), David Perron (F), Patrik Berglund (F), Erik Johnson (D), Roman Polak (D), Jonas Junland (D), Steve Wagner (D), Marek Schwarz (G), Chris Porter (F), Tomas Kana (F), Martin Kariya (F), Nikolai Lemtyugov (F), Nicholas Drazenovic (F), Alexander Hellstrom (D), Ryan Reaves (F)
Exposed: Alexander Brooks (D), Micki Dupont (D), Matt Walker (D), Barret Jackman (D), Bryce Salvador (D), Christian Backman (D), Ryan Johnson (F), Mike Johnson (F), D.J. King (F), Martin Rucinsky (F), Petr Cajanek (F), Dan Hinote (F), Yan Stastny (F), Jean-Guy Trudel (F), Mike Glumac (F), Trent Whitfield (F), Charles Linglet (F)

NOTES: Many of the guys exposed are UFA, and that's fine for the expansion draft; if they get selected, the Blues could simply pick them back up in free agency on July 1 - so I think by and large many if not all of them get exposed. The only guys under contract for '08-09 that would be exposed would be King, Hinote, Whitfield, and Linglet, and the only really difficult choice is the 7th forward between Tkachuk, King, or Hinote. The Blues would likely protect both Legace and Toivonen [and make a trade with a team to get a goalie to expose in the draft], and take the lower-priced Woywitka over the higher-priced Backman. It's also likely they'd strike a deal with the expansion team to trade a pick and a player in exchange for not taking either King or Hinote [or in exchange for agreeing to take Whitfield].

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Ottawa:

Forwards: Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley, Fisher, Eaves, Neil, Vermette, McAmmond, Robitaille
Defense: Meszaros, Phillips, Volchenkov, Schubert, Richardson
Goalies: Emery
UFAs: Kelly, Redden
Exempt: Foligno, Lee, Bass, Nikulin, Zubov, Elliott? (not sure if this is his first or second year in the AHL)

Available: Gerber, Donovan, some AHL guys (Dimitrakos, Nycholat)


I'd actually be tempted to go with 7-3-2 if we could "hide" Schubert as a forward (he plays both). Gerber would have some trade value in a 32-team league

F: Alfredsson, Spezza, Heatley, Fisher, Eaves, Neil, Schubert
D: Meszaros, Phillips, Volchenkov
G: Gerber, Emery
Available: Vermette, McAmmond, Robitaille, Donovan, same AHL guys as above
He would dissapear pretty damn fast....

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7 forwards, 3 defensemen, 2 goalies.

CBJ for me:
Nash
Zherdev
Fedorov
Novotny
Chimera
Peca
Fritsche
...as Hawkeye said, Modin would be on my list if he weren't injured

Hainsey
Hejda
Russell

Leclaire
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F Higgins
F Koivu
F Kovalev
F Plekanec
F A.Kostitsyn
F Lapierre
F Perezhogin
F Bégin
F Locke

D Komisarek
D Markov
D Streit
D Hamrlik
D Gorges

G Halak

Unprotected
F Kostopolos
F/D Dandenault
D Bouillon
+ Some ahl players like Milroy, Danis, Ferland
+ Future UFA like Huet, Smolinksi, Ryder, Brisebois

I guess none of our players would be claim,

I protected Locke over Kostopoulos and Dandenault because we don't need them anymore

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The bolded players would be exempt under the 1st/2nd year professional provision
Didn't know that. Thanks for the correction!

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I guess none of our players would be claim
Under the rules of the expansion draft, you're guaranteed to lose one (1) player.

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Expansion Draft?

If the NHL were to expand, here is the list I came up with for the New York Islanders:

Forwards

Sean Bergenheim
Bill Guerin
Richard Park
Mike Sillinger
Jon Sim
Andy Hilbert
Blake Comeau
Jeff Tambellini
Darryl Bootland


Defense

Chris Campoli
Brendan Witt
Andy Sutton
Marc-Andre Bergeron
Bruno Gervais


Goaltender

Rick DiPietro

UFA's

Mike Comrie
Ruslan Fedotenko
Trent Hunter
Miroslav Satan
Bryan Berard
Wade Dubielewicz

I'm not certain if I chose according to the rules of an Expansion Draft but I've done the best I can. I worked based on the 9-5-1 system

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Under the rules of the expansion draft, you're guaranteed to lose one (1) player.
Well if theres only one team added to the league, and they can select 13-8-3 (=24), some teams wont lose anybody.

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