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01-05-2008, 11:54 PM
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Fire Renney (merged)

Discuss.


P.S: This coming from a anti-fire Renney guy beforehand.

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01-05-2008, 11:55 PM
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0 wins on this roadtrip is alarming

BTW, why wasn't hossa and prucha in the shootout?

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He's got to go. He has no idea how to run this team. Just flat out no idea.

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NO. at this point last season we were worse and we turned it around, he gets to the end.

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Hahah that didn't take long

If you fire Renney you can forget about Jagr. He's not one to be bossed around

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0 wins on this roadtrip is alarming

BTW, why wasn't hossa and prucha in the shootout?
That's why I made this thread, my friend.

Solely the reason.

Avery, Gomez, Jagr,


Jagr, I can understand.. but AVERY? GOMEZ?


Seriously, AVERY?


and then ****ing GOMEZ?


Your facing the best shootout team in the league, and you put in no effort to win it.


BYE RENNEY.

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He's got to go. He has no idea how to run this team. Just flat out no idea.
well after 8 times missing the PO's he's managed to get us there twice in a row and probably three, thats better than anyone else. He gets at least to the end of the season imo.

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01-05-2008, 11:58 PM
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Fire Renney?

Is it finally that time? 1 miracle point on the trip, I cant understand this teams scoring problems. Maybe he just isnt getting through to them? IDK, I personally dont think firing Renney is the answer, but Im making this a poll to see what everyone else thinks.



Sorry mods, we must have been typing at the same time, feel free to merge/close

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Beat me to the thread. I understand wanting to try and help Avery break out of a slump... but you have to do whats best for the team. They had a great come back to tie with 7.7 seconds left, and then blows the game with a usual complete Tom Renneyesque decision.

Avery Gomez Jagr???????

Hossa Gomez Jagr would have been better, as would have...

Hossa Gomez Prucha

Hossa Shanny Prucha

Dubinsky Drury Hossa

Prucha Drury Gomez... I think you guys get the point.

Just when I think he starts to make smart decisions by changing up the power play unit, he does something Marek Malik would do and make a stupid play that a grade schooler would know better on.

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That's why I made this thread, my friend.

Solely the reason.

Avery, Gomez, Jagr,


Jagr, I can understand.. but AVERY? GOMEZ?


Seriously, AVERY?


and then ****ing GOMEZ?


Your facing the best shootout team in the league, and you put in no effort to win it.


BYE RENNEY.
Gomez is understandable, hes flashy, fancy, and a .500 career shoot out scorer.

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That's why I made this thread, my friend.

Solely the reason.

Avery, Gomez, Jagr,


Jagr, I can understand.. but AVERY? GOMEZ?


Seriously, AVERY?


and then ****ing GOMEZ?


Your facing the best shootout team in the league, and you put in no effort to win it.


BYE RENNEY.
i hear ya.. i need to pull up avery's career numbers in shootouts


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NO. at this point last season we were worse and we turned it around, he gets to the end.
Right........

You know, we never should have fired Neil Smith, because aftter all he did win a stanley cup in 1994.....


He's worthless. We might as well not even have powerplay units, he uses the fourth line like it's a league rule to use them at least half of the game, and he does random things and hopes it works out. Betts on the second line? Sure why not. What's that? We have to pick our first shooter for the shootout? Ok guys, whose turn is it to shoot this time? He's just worthless and has no sense of progression. If something doesn't work once, then that means we need a super duper switch. However, at the same time, anything I have tried that has failed 800 times needs to just be reiterated to the players until they do it right. My strategy is correct.

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I may be in the minority here, but we are 40 games in and things have not gotten better. Yes we had a good stretch where the team played airtight defence, but the team is still not scoring goals and now we have given up more goals than we have scored.

There's a problem with the system, or the players playing it and if our coach cant get the players he has to play the system better, we need a coach that can implement a system to better utilize the assets he has.

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Why else is Hossa in the lineup? This is the one thing he does well besides Penalty Kill, take bad penalties and miss open nets.

Good one tom

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You can't fire him at this point. Not when so many teams are bunched together. One hot streak and we're in 4th place.

However, there's no questioning that the guy makes some extremely strange decisions at times...I was in shock that Avery was the one to start the shootout tonight.

But as for the original question...if you fire him, who's taking over? There's nobody that can step in right away. He's not going anywhere. If we lose in round one or miss the playoffs alltogether? Fire him, he would deserve it, but no way do you do anything during the season.

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I can just imagine renney behind the bench with his magic 8 ball. Some of these desicions. Starting the game off with Betts, when we have trouble scoring, and always lose after they score first. WTF??? After being shut out.

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You can't fire him at this point. Not when so many teams are bunched together. One hot streak and we're in 4th place.

However, there's no questioning that the guy makes some extremely strange decisions at times...I was in shock that Avery was the one to start the shootout tonight.

But as for the original question...if you fire him, who's taking over? There's nobody that can step in right away. He's not going anywhere. If we lose in round one or miss the playoffs alltogether? Fire him, he would deserve it, but no way do you do anything during the season.

This is true, I agree that there is no one to take over, but he cant be brought back. Yet if he makes the playoffs again you know he will be. So either he goes now, or we Ranger fans live in purgatory until the Tom Renney era is over. He doesnt have what it takes to win the cup, but is given to much to work with to miss the playoffs.

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2 "Fire Renney" threads are better than one

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You can't fire him at this point. Not when so many teams are bunched together. One hot streak and we're in 4th place.

However, there's no questioning that the guy makes some extremely strange decisions at times...I was in shock that Avery was the one to start the shootout tonight.

But as for the original question...if you fire him, who's taking over? There's nobody that can step in right away. He's not going anywhere. If we lose in round one or miss the playoffs alltogether? Fire him, he would deserve it, but no way do you do anything during the season.
we were in 4th place before the road trip

and pat quinn

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we were in 4th place before the road trip

and pat quinn
Fat Quinn taking over wouldnt be the worst thing. I think its safe to say if he did we would get ZERO production out of Jagr, and up every one else's production.

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we were in 4th place before the road trip

and pat quinn
Quinn hasn't coached a game since 2006. Again, if this crap continues for the rest of the season, I'm all for it. But I don't think you make any changes right now. Just think back to last season at this point.

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Quinn hasn't coached a game since 2006. Again, if this crap continues for the rest of the season, I'm all for it. But I don't think you make any changes right now. Just think back to last season at this point.
We have had Avery for about 20 more games then we had him for at this point last season. Our records are still very close to last season.

Personally I think Avery played his worst game as a Ranger tonight. He was all over, terrible passes, out of position, missing golden opps.

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Fat Quinn taking over wouldnt be the worst thing. I think its safe to say if he did we would get ZERO production out of Jagr, and up every one else's production.
that's very likely

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After everything this team has done and how far they come you want to fire renney because he put avery gomez and jagr in the shootout?

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For me its more of the players' faults.

Bad penalties, posts, not burying chances, Bad goals, not shooting on the PP, not building on leads. So many games the Rangers have lost they come out feeling they played well enough to win, i don't know how that can be put on Renneys shoulders.

They just cant seem to put all the pieces together on a consistent basis.

But i was a bit puzzled to see the SO lineup tonight.

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