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01-09-2008, 11:00 AM
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Parallels to 03-04

Here are some fun facts for you all.
Stats after 43 games:
03-04 Goals For: 116
03-04 Goals Against: 113

07-08 Goals For: 105
07-08 Goals Against: 109

03-04 Record: 17-16-10 (combined ties and OTL)
03-04 Points: 44

07-08 Record: 20-18-05
07-08 Points: 45

There was no shootout in 03-04. The Rangers had 6 ties at that point which could have lead to 6 extra points.

As much as it sickens me to say, this team is painfully like that team. We're just lucky that everyone else isn't taking off in the conference.

A couple interesting stats. The Rangers in 03-04 allowed 60% of their goals at even strength. These Rangers... 60%.

The 03-04 Rangers scored 69% of their goals at even strength. These Rangers, 55%.

The Ottawa Senators who score the most goals in the league score 67% of their goals at even strength.

The 03-04 Rangers were 26th in the league on the Powerplay while the Rangers of this year are at 14th. However, with the powerplay only being fairly decent, almost half of the team's scoring comes from the powerplay. That's not good.


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hope not, that year was bruuutal

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Well one could make the argument that up to this point, those Rangers were actually better. Positive goal differential, better at scoring even strength, if the shootout was around they could have had potentially 6 more points. They were a better even strength team in that they scored more goals at even strength while allowing the same amount at even strength as this year (percentage wise). They scored more goals, had only 4 extra goals allowed with a much much more inferior goaltender.
Their powerplay was 3% worse than this year's powerplay. Didn't check on the PK.

Either way, you're looking at a team in disarray right now. Unless something turns around, it's really not looking good at all.

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I think we have a much better chance of turning this around with Lundqvist rather than Dunham.

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01-09-2008, 11:20 AM
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I think we have a much better chance of turning this around with Lundqvist rather than Dunham.
This is true, but it's a little alarming that Lundqvist has only allowed 4 less goals than Mike Dunham did in the same amount of games. I can't say it's all Lundqvist, but was that defense better than this year's defense? I mean Leetch was still here, Kaspar wasn't too bad, Greg De Vries was underrated, but you had Poti, Malakhov, Mirinov and Purinton. Tyutin came after the purge.

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I think we have a much better chance of turning this around with Lundqvist rather than Dunham.
I was about to say, this team is completely different from 03-04 for one main reason- #30.

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I found this amazing stat, too:

03-04: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
07-08: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game

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I found this amazing stat, too:

03-04: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
07-08: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
Must've taken a lot of research.

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I found this amazing stat, too:

03-04: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
07-08: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game





hahah, it's been a while since i've heard a john madden comment

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I found this amazing stat, too:

03-04: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
07-08: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
Not always

Say Jagr scores, but then Malik puts two into his own net. Well the Rangers scored three goals and lost

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01-09-2008, 01:59 PM
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Any comparisons from last season to this season?

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Goals For
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Record
Points
Top Scorer

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2006 - 2007 Season - After 43 Games
Goals For: 129
Goals Against: 131
There were 5 games where the opponent scored 6 or more goals

Record: 22-17-4
Points: 48

Top 4 Scorers:
Jagr: 54 Points
Straka: 51
Nylander: 47
Shanahan: 44
Total: 196

Powerplay Opportunities: 228
Powerplay Goals: 42
Powerplay %: 18.4%

Times Short Handed: 233
Powerplay Goals Against: 44
Penalty Kill %: 81.1%

2007 - 2008 Season - After 43 Games
Goals For: 105
Goals Against: 109

Record: 20-18-05
Points: 45

Top 4 Scorers:
Gomez: 40 Points
Jagr: 38
Drury: 30
Shanahan: 30
Total: 138

Powerplay Opportunities: 210
Powerplay Goals: 38
Powerplay %: 18.1%

Times Short Handed: 185
Powerplay Goals Against: 29
Penalty Kill %: 84.3%


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Goals For: 129
Goals Against: 131
There were 5 games where the opponent scored 6 or more goals

Record: 22-17-4
Points: 48

Top Goal Scorer
Jagr: 54 Points
We weren't super spectacular there either. Though I'd rather have 48 points, Jagr with 54 points and that record any day.

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Yeah but don't forget everyone had the Rangers down and out last season by January/February. They went on a spectacular run that year. Are the odds that good that they'll do it again?

If the East wasn't so bad then the Rangers would be down much lower in the standings. Luckily it's only 6 points from 9th place to 2nd place.

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I see alot of similarities with the 1986 Rangers:

Lundqvist=Vanbies
Gomez=Pavelich
Drury=Miller
Dubinsky=Ridley
Jagr=Larouche
Avery=Mcphee
Straka=Sandstrom
Prucha=Sundstrom

They started off poorly, lots of slumps and injuries, but then a hot goalie & good late season play
barely got us into the playoffs where we made a very nice run beating the #1 & #2 teams in the east
only to succomb to the Canadiens and their 'at least 1 every ten year' Cup deal with the league

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I found this amazing stat, too:

03-04: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game
07-08: 100% of teams who outscored their opponents in regulation won the game

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