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01-10-2008, 10:34 AM
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I don't think you will see the likes of

Steve Mason
Blake Geoffrion
Bobby Saguinetti
Thomas Hickey
Mikael Backlund
Shawn Matthias
Jonathan Bernier
Logan Couture
Drew Doughty
Patrick Berglund
Karl Alzner
Kyle Turris
Jame Van Riemsdyk
Jakub Voracek

all will likely need some AHL seasoning before they make jump
Voracek will only be 19 next year, so he doesn't qualify for the AHL until the 2009/2010 season.

It's Columbus or Halifax for him next year.

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01-10-2008, 10:47 AM
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1. Kyle Turris - PHO
2. Kyle Okposo - NYI
3. James VanRiemsdyk - PHI
Just curious -- why Turris over JVR? JVR has always seemed much more NHL-ready than Turris. He has a pro body, pro speed, etc. The guy is ready now.

Turris has put up 11 of his 19 points against horrible teams with horrible goaltenders.

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01-10-2008, 11:01 AM
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Just curious -- why Turris over JVR? JVR has always seemed much more NHL-ready than Turris. He has a pro body, pro speed, etc. The guy is ready now.

Turris has put up 11 of his 19 points against horrible teams with horrible goaltenders.
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01-10-2008, 11:03 AM
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01-10-2008, 11:12 AM
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Sorry to strike a nerve!
It's not that I disagree with you about JVR, I believe his showing at the WJC and so far in his first college year is due to the fact he is bigger and stronger and more ready to play against more experienced and higher competition. I also think he'll be physically ready to play in the NHL before Turris.

But people seem to go back to Turris lighting it up against weaker early competition and then struggling a bit more against better college teams at a time when he was sick and lost 10 pounds that he more than anybody couldn't afford to lose. He did pretty well in leading Canada in scoring during a gold medal WJC run against good teams and good goaltending.

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01-10-2008, 11:23 AM
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Agreed with both those calls. Assuming they both commit to NA next year, they will play NHL hockey from day one. Whether they stick is another question, but I am confident they will play at least 60-70 games each.

For Buffalo, Zagrapan is the rookie who will probably have most impact. Expect him to have a similar season to Paille last year and MacArthur this year splitting time between AHL and NHL. Mark Mancari and Patrick Kaleta will fight for a fourth line spot. Gogulla will come to camp and either make the team or return to Europe. I expect one of Brennan, Weber, Funk or Card to make the team, assuming Sekera gets the other spot. You can add Buravchikov to that list if he comes over, big if though. With 4 UFAs on D, there may be more than one.

Enroth will not play in the NHL to start the year, he will either start in the AHL or play another year in Europe.
Buravchikov? He is a bottom-pairing defenseman in RSL. No way he's NHL ready.

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01-10-2008, 11:43 AM
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No PIT rookies were mentioned. I don't expect any of them to be in the top 5, but I think one or two of them could surprise and play pretty well.

Possible rookies for Pittsburgh next year:

Dustin Jeffrey
Alex Goligoski
Ryan Stone
Luca Caputi
Joe Vitale
Vitale is only a junior and seeing as how I go to Northeastern and watch everygame, he isn't ready for the NHL yet, though he is making large strides this season. As far as JVR, who some people mentioned, I intern for USCHO.com and from the UNH games I have covered it doesn't look like he will be NHL ready for at least another season, plus Dick Umile likes guys to stick around for a while.

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01-10-2008, 01:13 PM
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I do not anticipate Alzner being on the Caps for many games next year. I don't think that Fehr has reached the rookie limit and if he heals well from this injury, he played his first game in 10 months last night for Hershey, then next year should be a solid rookie season for him.

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01-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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Schremp could be putting up numbers as a rookie next year... (only if he is traded to a team which allows him to play his game)

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01-10-2008, 01:37 PM
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Schremp could be putting up numbers as a rookie next year... (only if he is traded to a team which allows him to play his game)
By his game you mean spin around in circles with the puck on his stick? I'm sure the circus may allow him to do that.

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01-10-2008, 02:49 PM
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Carey Price or Jarolsav Halak, whichever doesn't get past 24 games.

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01-10-2008, 03:41 PM
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Just curious -- why Turris over JVR? JVR has always seemed much more NHL-ready than Turris. He has a pro body, pro speed, etc. The guy is ready now.

Turris has put up 11 of his 19 points against horrible teams with horrible goaltenders.
could go either way, but I would suspect that Turris would get more playing time on Phoenix's roster than JVR would on Philly's. Kind of how Mueller and Hanzal are getting lots of playing time now compared to other rookies in the NHL, theres just more room for him to play. More minutes = more points.

Who do I think is actually more talented is another question.


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01-10-2008, 03:52 PM
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Carey Price or Jarolsav Halak, whichever doesn't get past 24 games.
I think Price will undoubtedly pass 24 games this season, and will undoubtedly be the #1 goalie in Montreal next season.

Halak may play 20-30 games next year, but I dont think that would be enough to get him the Calder as a backup.

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01-10-2008, 11:39 PM
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i find brian lee's development very surprising, in a positive way...

he was supposed to be such a project when he was drafted. i thought he would need al 4 years in college and 1-2 years in the AHL before he was ready. and now, after 2 years at college and 1/2 season in the AHL he is allmost there.....

very niiiiice
It's certainly a nice surprise, and now he's an AHL All-star. It's definately looking like he'll have a spot next year.

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01-10-2008, 11:53 PM
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"could go either way, but I would suspect that Turris would get more playing time on Phoenix's roster than JVR would on Philly's. Kind of how Mueller and Hanzal are getting lots of playing time now compared to other rookies in the NHL, theres just more room for him to play. More minutes = more points.

Who do I think is actually more talented is another question."

I can think of no reason why Van Riemsdyk can't get 2nd or 3d line minutes in Philly next year if the Flyers determine he is ready. Gagne and Hartnell are the other top left wings. JVR might also earn 2d unit power play time. No harm if he needs an extra year but there is a spot for him when he's ready.

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01-11-2008, 12:11 AM
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I didn't read the whole thread...but I think that if Okposo made a big enough impact during camp with the Islanders, there is no reason they can't keep him in the line-up for the Regular Season. Look at Bergeron with the Bruins. Different circumstances and styles, certainly, but Bergeron made an impact with the club immediately under even tougher odds. Okposo could do the same. I think its likely to see him in an Isles jersey next season.

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01-11-2008, 12:25 AM
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I don't think you will see the likes of

Steve Mason
Blake Geoffrion
Bobby Saguinetti
Thomas Hickey
Mikael Backlund
Shawn Matthias
Jonathan Bernier
Logan Couture
Drew Doughty
Patrick Berglund
Karl Alzner
Kyle Turris
Jame Van Riemsdyk
Jakub Voracek

all will likely need some AHL seasoning before they make jump
Ya, Backlund almost definetely will not be in the NHL or the AHL next year. He likely won't be ready for the NHL, and will be to young for the AHL. Backlund will either stay in Sweden another year, or come over and play in the dub (I think Kelowna has his rights).

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01-11-2008, 09:27 PM
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For NJ I really think a 23 year old Petr Vrana may be able to make some sort of impact. He finally got a hold of the pro game this year and plays in all situations.
I hope so. I've rooted for him since he was drafted but was really disappointed with his results at Albany. He finally broke out at Lowell and we'll see if he can translate it to the AHL. I remember his scouting report was that he was a leader and fierce competitor. I've only seen him play once or twice but I would love it if he could become a 45-50 point guy while playing solid defense and being a leader.

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01-11-2008, 11:12 PM
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Carey Price is still an eligible rookie with only 19 games played and with his recent demotion to the AHL he might be a candidate for top rookie next year. (with half a season of NHL and half a season of AHL under his belt)

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Carey Price is still an eligible rookie with only 19 games played and with his recent demotion to the AHL he might be a candidate for top rookie next year. (with half a season of NHL and half a season of AHL under his belt)
I think for goalies a rookie year is different, considering they don't usually play more than 65-70.

Also, if he can make the trip over, Pavel Vorobiev of the Leafs could be a rookie to keep your eye on next year...

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Vitale is only a junior and seeing as how I go to Northeastern and watch everygame, he isn't ready for the NHL yet, though he is making large strides this season. As far as JVR, who some people mentioned, I intern for USCHO.com and from the UNH games I have covered it doesn't look like he will be NHL ready for at least another season, plus Dick Umile likes guys to stick around for a while.
Yah I am 90% sure JVR will be back at UNH next year. Mainly because the flyers are pretty deep at forward right now. I think he will spend at least 1 more year maybe 2 at UNH before stepping in for the flyers. As for this thread Giroux and Parent would be the two flyers players that will most likely get a shot in 08-09.

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Voracek will only be 19 next year, so he doesn't qualify for the AHL until the 2009/2010 season.

It's Columbus or Halifax for him next year.
Voracek looked very smooth at the WJC - IMO one of the most mature hockey players out there - and a terrific playmaker.

Personally I'll be surprised if he doesn't stick with the Jackets next year, especially if Vyborny is not re-signed as a UFA... He's also clearly far too good to be playing Junior hockey still.

I think Okposo will make an impact next year and also TJ Oshie in St Louis.

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01-12-2008, 04:26 AM
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I go to UNH...van Riemsdyk is staying for 2 years.

Bergfors and Corrente will most likely make the Devils next year and make an impact. Vrana has an outside shot at a job, but more than one spot will have to open up because I believe the first spot that opens up belongs to Bergfors.

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Buravchikov? He is a bottom-pairing defenseman in RSL. No way he's NHL ready.
Serious? Ouch. I thought he was at least top 4.

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Ya, Backlund almost definetely will not be in the NHL or the AHL next year. He likely won't be ready for the NHL, and will be to young for the AHL. Backlund will either stay in Sweden another year, or come over and play in the dub (I think Kelowna has his rights).
After the success Johannes Salmonsson had doing that, I highly doubt Calgary takes this option. Backlund needs to be developed very carefully if he's ever going to come close to his potential.

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