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01-10-2008, 08:03 AM
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Wayne Gretzky's Penalty Shot?

So last night I was at the Hawks-Stars game when Patrick Kane was awarded a penalty shot. He deeked Turco out of his jock strap and then missed the net with a backhand. Right after that my uncle turned to me and said, "I bet Wayne Gretzky didn't miss his first penalty shot."

I don't remember Wayne ever getting a penalty shot. Does anyone out there know if he was awarded a penalty shot, and if so, when?

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01-10-2008, 08:37 AM
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So what's your uncle's username?

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Feb.6, 1981 vs Jets No Goal (Goalie - Pierre Hamel)
Jan.16,1982 @ Leafs No Goal (Goalie - Bunny Larocque)
Nov.24,1982 vs Caps No Goal (Goalie - Pat Riggin)
Jan.19, 1983 vs Nucks Goal (Goalie - Richard Brodeur)

Playoffs

Apr.28, 1984 @ North Stars Goal (Goalie - Don Beaupre)

These are the only penalty shots Gretzky took as an Oiler, they were a rarity back then.

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Gretzky should have taken the shootout attempt over Bourque.

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Wow! Thanks guys. I didn't think I'd get any responses to this at all. Thanks for sharring your knowledge.

By the way, my uncle is not on the boards. He is computer illiterate.

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01-10-2008, 04:44 PM
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Gretzky should have taken the shootout attempt over Bourque.
what about over al mcinnis?

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Wayne missed his first three penalty shots?
Meh.
Anybody who scores 1000+ NHL goals over his career (incl. playoffs) isn't going to have his legacy affected by such a stat.
Sure would affect a guy that got 997!

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01-11-2008, 02:20 AM
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Wayne missed his first three penalty shots?
Meh.
Anybody who scores 1000+ NHL goals over his career (incl. playoffs) isn't going to have his legacy affected by such a stat.
Yeah, but it still seems strange to me that he wasn't an ace on penalty shots. He was the best player I've ever seen in terms of getting the goalie to bite/move.

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Really? I think a lot of his goal scoring skill came from scoring at times when he could just as well pass. The goalie had no idea when he's gonna shoot, pass or make a deke move to get closer. On a breakaway where he goes in one on one and the decisions he makes is pretty limited. Gretzky never had the hardest shot, though he could thread a needle. And he never had the skating or lateral movement to dazzle, though he undressed goalies simply by zigging and zagging unexpectedly. Gretzky could score on any angle from any distance because he could find a hole and put the puck in it. But on a breakaway goalies are aware of nothing else but themselves and the shooter and can play angles and be conscious of their holes, closing them at will.
Gretzky was never the best on a penalty shot or breakaway... still he was the clutchest player I have EVER seen play hockey. He should have been picked over Bourque for the shootout. And you know if he was it would be near impossible to second guess should Gretz have failed. You go with Gretzky... it is a sound choice!

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Really? I think a lot of his goal scoring skill came from scoring at times when he could just as well pass. The goalie had no idea when he's gonna shoot, pass or make a deke move to get closer. On a breakaway where he goes in one on one and the decisions he makes is pretty limited. Gretzky never had the hardest shot, though he could thread a needle. And he never had the skating or lateral movement to dazzle, though he undressed goalies simply by zigging and zagging unexpectedly. Gretzky could score on any angle from any distance because he could find a hole and put the puck in it. But on a breakaway goalies are aware of nothing else but themselves and the shooter and can play angles and be conscious of their holes, closing them at will.
True, a lot of the movement came from his passing options, but there were times on breaks where he would make a goalie move just a matter of cms and put it where he was a split second before. It was never Gretz shot that made him a great goalscorer, it was his ability to put it where he wasn't. I can see how it might not translate as well with a prepared goalie, but still...

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what about over al mcinnis?
There's a reason why slapshots don't work for penalty shots.

See Robert Reichel in 2003 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

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There's a reason why slapshots don't work for penalty shots.

See Robert Reichel in 2003 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Oddly enough the one guy that did score in that 1998 Canada-Czech Republic shootout.

Yeah I wish Gretzky took part in that shootout. Or at least Yzerman.

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You mean, over *beep* Keith Primeau!

Gawd that still bothers me. Even as a Canucks fan, Crawford immediately was resented by myself and others. The Kings is the closest thing to hell he could be relegated to. Good riddance.

Ten years later and I still get teary eyed recalling how Gretz looked at the bench after finding out he wasn't getting picked for the decisive 5-man shootout.
BTW. Ouch man. Ouch. We have the same number of finals appearances, and Stanley Cup wins as the Cancuks FYI

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I think he took more than that but I remember he wasn't very good.

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Gretzky said even in his autobiography that he is not good at breakaways and that he always had problem with them. Shows only that also the gods are mortal.

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BTW. Ouch man. Ouch. We have the same number of finals appearances, and Stanley Cup wins as the Cancuks FYI
While it was a low blow, Canucks have 2 finals appearances to the Kings 1...

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While it was a low blow, Canucks have 2 finals appearances to the Kings 1...
My bad. I guess I wasn't the only one who forgot, looks like the Nucks did that year as well.

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You mean, over *beep* Keith Primeau!
Huh? Keith Primeau shot? I thought the five were:

Nieuwendyk
Lindros
MacInnis
Bourque
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Not as mortal as orr and mario

Gordie was immortal. There can only be ONE!

(anybody got stats on Gordie Howe's penalty shot record?)
I think he was called on about 7 of them but the guy he hauled down was always hurting too much to score afterward.


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Gretzky said even in his autobiography that he is not good at breakaways and that he always had problem with them. Shows only that also the gods are mortal.
Even if he wasn't, I'd rather lose and not left the best player in the history of the game on the bench.

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Huh? Keith Primeau shot? I thought the five were:

Nieuwendyk
Lindros
MacInnis
Bourque
Shanahan
Theo Fleury was the first shooter.

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Even if he wasn't, I'd rather lose and not left the best player in the history of the game on the bench.



Theo Fleury was the first shooter.
Than who were the five?

I'm pretty sure Keith Primeau wasn't one of them

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Than who were the five?
Canada:

1. Fleury
2. Bourque
3. Nieuwendyk
4. Lindros
5. Shanahan

Czech Republic:

1. Reichel
2. Rucinsky
3. Patera
4. Jagr
5. Ruzicka (did not shoot)

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I'm pretty sure Reichel shot 3rd, if not he was 4th.

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I'm pretty sure Reichel shot 3rd, if not he was 4th.
I vividly remember him going first and that being the only goal.

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what about over al mcinnis?
he didn't shoot.

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