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LW Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson (2009, 10th overall, Edmonton)

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09-06-2008, 01:40 PM
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Looks like extremely bad defence to me.
Extremely bad? Timra's players just were quick enough and had some space due to that.

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How about just straight "Magnus"!!!
or better yet "The Magnus"

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Extremely bad? Timra's players just were quick enough and had some space due to that.
The guy in front of the net watching behind the net and not looking around to see who to cover.

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The guy in front of the net watching behind the net and not looking around to see who to cover.
If you're talking about the little defender, it seems he realized that nobody was putting any pressure on Paajarvi. Since he saw none of his teammates in front of him, there must have been 4 behind him, so he was proceeding to take his place on the strong post, as it appeared that, to obviously everyone on the ice, that was the direction Paajarvi was going. Seeing a forward half way around the net, with his back to the guy who eventually scored the goal, it was either: 1) Pick up the guy who Paajarvi apparently couldn't even see, due to his back being to him... allowing Paajarvi to either walk right out in front of the net, or dish to the forward perched at the post, who Paajarvi could likely see clear as day. Or 2) Take the strong post, where nobody was, keeping Paajarvi at bay behind the net, or at least to the outside, while taking away the pass on the strong side, to the man in front.

Certainly gives a little substance to the situation, besides "bad defense".

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09-06-2008, 02:14 PM
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I can't wait for this kid to get to the NHL. He's going in the top 5 maybe higher.

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09-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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More like Erik Johnson, who had a breakthrough tourney that propelled him from top 10 status to pretty much a consensus #1. Schenn's not the greatest example because while he had a good tourney, he plays a relatively one-dimensional game.

The WJCs won't "make" a player if he hadn't done anything of substance earlier, but it is the best (only, really) chance to show a player against the elite of his peer group, which is instrumental in confirming scouts' fears, alleviating their concerns, or exceeding their expectations about what a kid can do at the next level.

It has been not a not-negligible factor in a lot of players' draft positions.
My point was two players who didn't even take part in the event went before arguably the best player at the tournament.

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09-06-2008, 05:13 PM
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Msp?
I know, I don't get it either! I only had two entire pages of posts to find out who this mysterious "MSP" was!

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09-06-2008, 05:16 PM
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I'd love to see the Kings draft this guy if we don't finish low enough to snag Hedman or Tavares. We have somewhat of a weakness in prospects at the left wing position, plus how cool would this line be?

Paajarvi - Kopitar - Brown.

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09-06-2008, 06:27 PM
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I'd love to see the Kings draft this guy if we don't finish low enough to snag Hedman or Tavares. We have somewhat of a weakness in prospects at the left wing position, plus how cool would this line be?

Paajarvi - Kopitar - Brown.
I don't think that line would be cool at all. Actually from a sens point of view I would hate that line with a passion.

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My point was two players who didn't even take part in the event went before arguably the best player at the tournament.
Yep, but it ignored a crucial factor.

When you see Team Canada select Kris Draper over Sidney Crosby and Jason Spezza, do you suppose its because they feel he is a better hockey player, or do you think they picked him because he better fits a particular role on the team?

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09-06-2008, 11:07 PM
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If you're talking about the little defender, it seems he realized that nobody was putting any pressure on Paajarvi. Since he saw none of his teammates in front of him, there must have been 4 behind him, so he was proceeding to take his place on the strong post, as it appeared that, to obviously everyone on the ice, that was the direction Paajarvi was going. Seeing a forward half way around the net, with his back to the guy who eventually scored the goal, it was either: 1) Pick up the guy who Paajarvi apparently couldn't even see, due to his back being to him... allowing Paajarvi to either walk right out in front of the net, or dish to the forward perched at the post, who Paajarvi could likely see clear as day. Or 2) Take the strong post, where nobody was, keeping Paajarvi at bay behind the net, or at least to the outside, while taking away the pass on the strong side, to the man in front.

Certainly gives a little substance to the situation, besides "bad defense".
Aren't we impressed with our knowledge.

With the other guy playing Paajarvi it was the player in front of the net's job to look for someone else instead of two players watching the guy behind the net. The defender in the slot area took one stride towards Paajarvi, realized it was the bad move and the puck was in the net.

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If the Leafs draft him, that video will be considered invalid around here

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Aren't we impressed with our knowledge.

With the other guy playing Paajarvi it was the player in front of the net's job to look for someone else instead of two players watching the guy behind the net. The defender in the slot area took one stride towards Paajarvi, realized it was the bad move and the puck was in the net.
So basically it was a breakdown, which usually occurs on most goals scored in any league, and a player capitalizing on one's mistake, with a very clever play.

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09-07-2008, 01:38 AM
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Pääjärvi aint new in the Top of this draft ever seens he was about 13-14 years old many in Sweden have seen him as the next great Swed in hockey after Forsberg and he have done it better so far then what Forsberg have done at same age .

Btw will he play with Jonathan and Lander all year or was it only for this game ?

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Does he play a game similar to Foppa

or what?

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Does he play a game similar to Foppa

or what?
He's a much more dynamic skater then Forsberg ever was.

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If you're talking about the little defender, it seems he realized that nobody was putting any pressure on Paajarvi. Since he saw none of his teammates in front of him, there must have been 4 behind him, so he was proceeding to take his place on the strong post, as it appeared that, to obviously everyone on the ice, that was the direction Paajarvi was going. Seeing a forward half way around the net, with his back to the guy who eventually scored the goal, it was either: 1) Pick up the guy who Paajarvi apparently couldn't even see, due to his back being to him... allowing Paajarvi to either walk right out in front of the net, or dish to the forward perched at the post, who Paajarvi could likely see clear as day. Or 2) Take the strong post, where nobody was, keeping Paajarvi at bay behind the net, or at least to the outside, while taking away the pass on the strong side, to the man in front.

Certainly gives a little substance to the situation, besides "bad defense".
7, 13, and 20 are skating around like lost puppy dogs, and the eventual goal scorer comes all the way down from the point, through the slot, and makes it to the goal post without anyone picking him up until that one guy makes a desperation swipe at him as he's burying it.

It was still a nice pass.

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He's a much more dynamic skater then Forsberg ever was.
yea and not as physical as forsberg .

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When you watch this clip, I dont think I can remember a prospect with his speed and agility. He Basically looks like a Zetterberg clone on steroids in this vid-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-go4o...=548949&page=2

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When you watch this clip, I dont think I can remember a prospect with his speed and agility. He Basically looks like a Zetterberg clone on steroids in this vid-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-go4o...=548949&page=2
I just see a smaller Forsberg...


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Agreed...but tell that to Erik Karlsson.
Erik Karlsson didn't play the U-20s.

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I just see a smaller Forsberg...
Not much smaller, though. Paajarvi is actually already listed as an inch taller than Forsberg. Forsberg does have the weight advantage, but the two should be pretty similar when Paajarvi fills out.

Then again, Forsberg was listed at 5-11, 167 when he was drafted, so Paajarvi could end up being bigger than him.

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09-07-2008, 12:43 PM
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We should have a poll to decide who the real MSP is....Marty St. Pierre has been MSP for years. I don't even know who this other guy with the beer league moves is.
How ignorant.

he is a 17 year old playing SEL teams, a much bigger accomplishment than playing in a junior league in North American.

Thank you, next.

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How ignorant.

he is a 17 year old playing SEL teams, a much bigger accomplishment than playing in a junior league in North American.

Thank you, next.
as i've said, it will be a good signature in 2-3 years.)))))))

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as i've said, it will be a good signature in 2-3 years.)))))))
Agreed, I will be very surprised if Paajarvi doesnt make it in NHL.

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