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LW Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson (2009, 10th overall, Edmonton)

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09-07-2008, 12:42 PM
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How ignorant.

he is a 17 year old playing SEL teams, a much bigger accomplishment than playing in a junior league in North American.

Thank you, next.
Ignorant, my magnus. You want to talk about accomplishments? How many players 5'9" even make it to the NHL?? He is well over a PPG player in the AHL, in fact he is an assist per game player. I don't mean to throw stones at this swedish kid, but I'm serious when I say let him make a name b4 you abbreviate it to something that makes people think you are talking about an established player.

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09-07-2008, 12:57 PM
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Ignorant, my magnus. You want to talk about accomplishments? How many players 5'9" even make it to the NHL?? He is well over a PPG player in the AHL, in fact he is an assist per game player. I don't mean to throw stones at this swedish kid, but I'm serious when I say let him make a name b4 you abbreviate it to something that makes people think you are talking about an established player.

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First of all, I am ignorant now? you just called SEL a beer league.

I am sorry, Martin St. Pierre is 25 years old and played in AHL last season while Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi is one of the best forward prospects in sweden ever. This is a no brainer.

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09-07-2008, 12:59 PM
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First of all, I am ignorant now? you just called SEL a beer league.

I am sorry, Martin St. Pierre is 25 years old and played in AHL last season while Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi is one of the best forward prospects in sweden ever. This is a no brainer.
I did not call you ignorant, and I definately did not call the SEL a beer league. I said it was a beer league move, one I use, big difference.

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09-07-2008, 01:01 PM
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Ignorant, my magnus. You want to talk about accomplishments? How many players 5'9" even make it to the NHL?? He is well over a PPG player in the AHL, in fact he is an assist per game player. I don't mean to throw stones at this swedish kid, but I'm serious when I say let him make a name b4 you abbreviate it to something that makes people think you are talking about an established player.

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Who actually cares? it is an abbreviation. No one has the sole right to it.

For a side note, i'd venture to say MSP the prospect (Haha i can't be bothered to type his name) will end up having the vastly superior career.

Seriously though, people argue amd get rude over this? Haha you guys remind me of Jon Drummond.

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09-07-2008, 01:02 PM
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I did not call you ignorant, and I definately did not call the SEL a beer league. I said it was a beer league move, one I use, big difference.
the move was slick and created a goal. Forsberg has used it in NHL a few times, I assume it's a beer league move then also?



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09-07-2008, 05:08 PM
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Erik Karlsson didn't play the U-20s.
Yes, because I couldn't possibly have meant the U18's. Way to use the old noggin.

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09-07-2008, 05:27 PM
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I did not call you ignorant, and I definately did not call the SEL a beer league. I said it was a beer league move, one I use, big difference.
Isn't the fact that he pulled off a "Beer League" move at the Swedish Elite League level (3rd most talented in the world behind NHL and KHL) as a 17 year old a testiment of talent?

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10-17-2008, 02:50 PM
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MSP (or MPS) could go #3 overall in 09 draft

i think Svensson-Paajarvi has jumped over Duchene and Cowen and who knows could threaten the top 2 if he continues to play like he is. If he dominates the WJC things could get very interesting leading up to the draft.
For the record, I live in America and am not a Swedish homer or Canadian-basher

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10-17-2008, 02:59 PM
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He could be in a very good position to do so, but I wouldn't expect him to dominate the WJC. Draft eligible players rarely, if ever dominate the WJC.

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10-17-2008, 03:44 PM
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I like MSP better then Hedman but i guess with Hedmans talent and size speed etc will give him the notch even if MSP have more skill and more speed.

But i hope there will be more competition for the 1st second spot then im sure MSP will be one off them .

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10-17-2008, 03:56 PM
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Tavares will always go number 1 and Hedman number two the other rop spots are quite open.

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10-17-2008, 04:05 PM
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I haven't seen much of him but I've seen a lot of Duchene and I really like him. It will be easier to compare North Americans to Europeans after the WJC.

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10-17-2008, 04:35 PM
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The way MSP is playing I wouldn't be all surprised if we see a Swedish one-two punch to open the draft.

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10-17-2008, 04:37 PM
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The way MSP is playing I wouldn't be all surprised if we see a Swedish one-two punch to open the draft.
I think TAVARES will have something to say about that.

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10-17-2008, 04:40 PM
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Tavares is not slipping beyond the top 2 unless his medical reports have red flags.

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I like MSP better than Hedman

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10-17-2008, 04:41 PM
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I'm much more excited about MSP than Hedman. If MSP continue to play like what he do now, then why not Swedes in the first and the second picks? Go go go!

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I'm much more excited about MSP than Hedman. If MSP continue to play like what he do now, then why not Swedes in the first and the second picks? Go go go!
seems most swedes are excited about MSP while North Americans prefer Hedman.

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10-17-2008, 04:50 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if MSP becomes the best player to come out of this draft.

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10-17-2008, 04:54 PM
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seems most swedes are excited about MSP while North Americans prefer Hedman.
Maybe the North Americans are more afraid for a great European forward than a great European defenceman? We Swedes are excited about MSP because he's a forward...

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I would still rather have Tavares then anyone.

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10-17-2008, 04:58 PM
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I would still rather have Tavares then anyone.
...and I prefer MSP...

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10-17-2008, 06:36 PM
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Ok, before this gets out of hand;
  • It is entirely possible that on draft day the first overall pick is not named Hedman or Tavares.
  • MSP has played better and produced more then anyone expected of him prior to this season.
  • His stock is rising and I think most Swedes right now rank him as high as Hedman.

So please, let's keep the discussion on whether or not MSP could go 3rd overall, or higher. Not making this into another Sweden vs. Canada bash fest.

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10-18-2008, 01:18 AM
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So far Hedman is still 1st in Sweden and Europe and has some gap. His stock is as usual very very high.
MSP stock is rising though and he's now 2nd without a doubt and has an chance to actually become 1st in Europe and in the World.

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10-18-2008, 08:41 AM
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He could be in a very good position to do so, but I wouldn't expect him to dominate the WJC. Draft eligible players rarely, if ever dominate the WJC.
Look at Jordan Schroeder. He dominated last year and its his draft year now.. If he does the same could he go higher then his ISS ranking of #6? Still his size concerns teams but if he keeps producing at the world stage could he go higher and compete with Tavares/Hedman/MSP etc. But the issue is with his size he could end up like Chistov etc.

Going back to the topic no point in speculation right now wait until the WJC to see how MSP has progressed at world level. Its going to be hard to move Tavares out because of his hockey vision. Gretzky wasnt the best skater etc but his hockey vision and smarts were far greater then anyone at his time. Spezza was a poor skater but is still a PPG player and Spezza had some bad years after his awesome rookie performance for the Battalion. Tavares keeps producing and his production hasnt slipped. So by this analysis Tavares will be greater then Spezza.. So would you pass on Tavares who is pretty much a sure 100+ pt nhl man? How many nhlers did that last year. Exactly..

More risk with MSP but yes MSP could be the best player out of the draft. Who knows. Only time will tell. Right now keep supporting there development so we can see something special later on at the highest level.

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