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01-19-2008, 09:18 PM
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Maybe because i don't think Higgins has a guaranteed spot out there when the game is on the line. I love the guy but he has been bumbling on for last 25 games or so.

For me it makes sense to have two centers out there.

And for me, i fully realize Koivu is now a second line player. I get the feeling as much as posters around here loved to always call him one, now that he is actually playing like one, they have expectations of him as a first liner again.
Either way...I just think that Plekanec's line has been bringing it the past 20 + games. I think it's time Koivu's starts pulling it's weight too and it's ok to call him out for it...it doesnt diminish what he's accomplished his career as a Hab, it's just a reflection of his play all year really.

Though Higgins is an important cog, i've got different expectations for him than I do Koivu, and putting aside production, Koivu's game is really lacking right now.

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01-19-2008, 09:19 PM
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Maybe because i don't think Higgins has a guaranteed spot out there when the game is on the line. I love the guy but he has been bumbling on for last 25 games or so.

For me it makes sense to have two centers out there.

And for me, i fully realize Koivu is now a second line player. I get the feeling as much as posters around here loved to always call him one, now that he is actually playing like one, they have expectations of him as a first liner again.
Exactly

The guys is now playing 2nd line C and is on pace for 55-60 pts... so what's the problem...

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01-19-2008, 09:21 PM
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They left the year after, or so. No?
What! wasnt disrespectful for Roy and Carbs to do it, but it is for Koivu... is it what you're trying to say here ?

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I wouldn't be against trading Koivu, but the team would need a solid center in return. Because the Habs have nobody there.

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Sometimes theres more important things to life than hockey. If Koivu truly didn't care about this team and truly was thinking about life after hockey he could have quit after the eye injury let alone the cancer. That right there, at least to myself shows he cares about this team. After the treatment he gets from goofs like you I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to play here.
Do you really think he reads HFboards and what all the medias have to say after all the games. I'm a selfish fan who want hits and wins. As humanly nice as he is, he just don't have what we need to bring the Stanley cup. We gave him enough years carrying the C, we gave him enough years of recovery, we gave him enough millions. Time to move on.

I'd like him traded to a top west team for a fast-young-center or physical center. Any name comes to your mind, that would be possible?

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01-19-2008, 09:23 PM
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Well as we all know, the Habs would be able to acquire a superstar for Koivu because he's so terrible. It's just logic.

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What! wasnt disrespectful for Roy and Carbs to do it, but it is for Koivu... is it what you're trying to say here ?
If it means Koivu is out of the habs next year. Then yes it would become OK.

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I don't agree with trading Koivu, he should of been traded 2 years ago. Now we're better off with him than without
Well we got *stuck* with Koivu because of Ribs immaturity. So to that extend I would agree with you that Koivu would of been traded if Ribs would off blossomed faster.

And now we have NO prospects at center that can or will step up and take the role of 1st line center. Pleky is showing us that he is a bonified 2nd line center, all to his merit.

It was nice to stock up on defence in the past drafts...but now IMO we have a serious problem at center....especially if Saku starts to demise faster that expected. And Maxwell and White are not the answers.

So...I still maintain that if we can make an interesting package for a prime centerman, I'd make the trade.

Keep Kovalev who is showing much more leadership than Koivu has ever shown in recent years.

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01-19-2008, 09:25 PM
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While I'm against trading him, what do you guys think he would bring us if he was dealt at the deadline? His market value isn't really clear to me right now. I think he could fetch us something good, given Gainey puts some work into it.

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If it means Koivu is out of the habs next year. Then yes it would become OK.
Sure, having Lapierre as our 2nd line C would be SOOOOO great!

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Well as we all know, the Habs would be able to acquire a superstar for Koivu because he's so terrible. It's just logic.
Then we could trade Brisebois for Lecavalier and win the cup!

I don't see why Gainey hasn't tried this yet. He should be canned too, and then we could bring in JFJ.

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Sure, having Lapierre as our 2nd line C would be SOOOOO great!
Any good Center UFA next year?

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I wouldn't be against trading Koivu, but the team would need a solid center in return. Because the Habs have nobody there.
I would package Koivu for Richards in a heartbeat.

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Sure, having Lapierre as our 2nd line C would be SOOOOO great!
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Any good Center UFA next year?
well, in the "one we can attract" category, Smokes will be available...

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Well we got *stuck* with Koivu because of Ribs immaturity. So to that extend I would agree with you that Koivu would of been traded if Ribs would off blossomed faster.

And now we have NO prospects at center that can or will step up and take the role of 1st line center. Pleky is showing us that he is a bonified 2nd line center, all to his merit.

It was nice to stock up on defence in the past drafts...but now IMO we have a serious problem at center....especially if Saku starts to demise faster that expected. And Maxwell and White are not the answers.

So...I still maintain that if we can make an interesting package for a prime centerman, I'd make the trade.

Keep Kovalev who is showing much more leadership than Koivu has ever shown in recent years.
That's not fair to Koivu...his leadership has no reason to be questionned, it's his game right now that does.

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I would trade Saku Koivu to Dallas for Mike Ribeiro straight up

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Any chance we can get Daymond Langkow at 5-6m/ yearly?

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I would trade Saku Koivu to Dallas for Mike Ribeiro straight up
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Why Koivu can't score and Kovalev can? We put everyone in the team with Koivu and it has never worked... Has it ever cross your mind you that Koivu might be the problem? I'm not gonna talk about cancer and all because it has nothing to do with this matter, I already said in the past that I didn't care about that story and that winning a fight over cancer never brought to anyone, to any team a stanley cup.
Last year:

Why Kovalev can't score and Koivu can? We put everyone in the team with Kovalev and it has never worked... Has it ever cross your mind you that Kovalev might be the problem?

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That's not fair to Koivu...his leadership has no reason to be questionned, it's his game right now that does.
I'm wasn't questioning his leadership in the locker room...my comment wasn't clear...his leadership on the ice is more what I meant...which is inline with his fair play this year.

And I can't believe that Koivu could be recycled as a 3rd line center...his defensive play 5 on 5 is average...

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That's not fair to Koivu...his leadership has no reason to be questionned, it's his game right now that does.
so, being a leader in the locker room is enough ?

Personnally, I always thought the intensity and the consistency displayed by a captain is a good way to evaluate a part of his leadership...

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I would package Koivu for Richards in a heartbeat.
You would, but why would Tampa?

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Why Kovalev can't score and Koivu can? We put everyone in the team with Kovalev and it has never worked... Has it ever cross your mind you that Kovalev might be the problem?
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