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02-01-2008, 08:48 PM
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He has got to be signed to a multi year. He just has too. Look at what Ovechkin is doing and Hartnell. We need to lock up this guy for a good time. That will make him even more motivated.

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He has got to be signed to a multi year. He just has too. Look at what Ovechkin is doing and Hartnell. We need to lock up this guy for a good time. That will make him even more motivated.
Ummm no you don't do that before a player has proven he can do this over the long term.... He's just a rookie... We get him for 3 years for dirty cheap...

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Agreed, he wont be getting a big contract until he really proves himself. And he shouldn't be satisfied with a long term contract for little money.

I think he is learning from all the vets and an unbelievable speed. He talks like Shanahan after games. He is a bull with the puck and making moves like Jagr. He is fiesty like Avery. He is good at faceoffs like Drury. And he backchecks like Straka. Ok... some of those are a bit of a stretch, especially the last one. But continues to get better, and he is the definition of a COMPLETE hockey player.

I love the guy, and hope he continues to improve and is a Ranger for a long time.

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02-02-2008, 09:25 AM
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Wasn't Brandon one of those 2nd level prospects some people wanted to include in a trade for rental such as Floppa in Philly last year?Can you imagine if the Rangers traded him to the Flyers or for some other rental?Be careful with these rental players this season too.

Dubinsky still has another season remaining on his entry level contract.

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If you want to ship Dubinsky to L.A I would love it. He is a big bodied, skilled player that can skate and is aggressive. He is young, worked hard to make the team and seems very mature for his age. You guys have a rare find there.

I watch a lot of Ranger games and I would love to see you guys shed your vets like Jagr, and Shanny. They seem to actually be holding up the Dubinsky's and the Dawes who I am also starting to like.

I would love to see Dubinsky centering L.A's second line with Frolov and Cammellari. I am crossing my fingures that Sather panicks and offers him up in a package for Blake or Nagy, or Visnovsky or Stuart or one of our firesale vets that will be traded of to playoff conteneders.

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Wasn't Brandon one of those 2nd level prospects some people wanted to include in a trade for rental such as Floppa in Philly last year?Can you imagine if the Rangers traded him to the Flyers or for some other rental?Be careful with these rental players this season too.

Dubinsky still has another season remaining on his entry level contract.
I don't think anyone who's familiar with the Rangers' brass could have knowingly included Dubinsky in any trade talks... If they were familiar with the Rangers management, they would know that the organization was very high on Brandon from the get go.... He was a de facto 'untouchable' in the organization's eyes probably....


On a different note... Is anyone else a bit perplexed at the level in which Dubinsky's development has skyrocketed since he started playing in the NHL? If you were to create a line graph of Dubinsky's level of play/development over the last 2-3 years, you would see a HUGE SPIKE these last 6 months or so... It seems he has turned it on the most once he hit the highest level of competition.... Which says wonders about his character but still surprises me....

I don't get to watch a lot of Pack games at all.... But Dubinsky has always been a player who's gotten my attention based on his size, character, and the scouting reports I've read on him.... I remember last season on multiple occasions asking some Wolfpack regulars how Dubinsky was doing and how he had looked and while I didn't hear many negatives, I certainly didn't hear anything that would even remotely describe the way he's playing right now.... I really didn't get the impression that he wow'd Wolfpack fans anywhere even close to the way in which he's wow'ing us now.....

Which has me wondering, which of our other prospects are really going to 'turn it on' and show us a level of play we've never seen before once they hit the NHL level..... This really changes the way in which I look at our prospects.... I guess I always have to allow for the possibility that some players aren't going to play to the best of their (current) potential until they reach the highest level...

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Which has me wondering, which of our other prospects are really going to 'turn it on' and show us a level of play we've never seen before once they hit the NHL level..... This really changes the way in which I look at our prospects.... I guess I always have to allow for the possibility that some players aren't going to play to the best of their (current) potential until they reach the highest level...
Really good points. I think guys like Korpikoski, Byers and even Bourret could turn it on once they get a shot in the NHL. One thing I haven't seen brought up too often is that there are so many forwards with NHL upside in Hartford that you're never going to get nine 30 goal scorers in their lineup. They can't win every game 8-2. If these forwards finish with only 15-20 goals, it doesn't mean they'll never provide any offense in the NHL.

Dubi's growth over the past month gives me a lot of hope for many of the forwards in Hartford.

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It may also be the exposure to Jags, Shanny, Gomer, & Drury who are teaching him things coaches can't. Add the level of competition plus a player who may have above average hockey sense and general intelligence, and you have someone that explodes when given these kind of opportunities. I don't see it as he was slacking in the AHL, but rather he had learned what he could and need the next level of experience for him to reach his potential.

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If you want to ship Dubinsky to L.A I would love it. He is a big bodied, skilled player that can skate and is aggressive. He is young, worked hard to make the team and seems very mature for his age. You guys have a rare find there.

I watch a lot of Ranger games and I would love to see you guys shed your vets like Jagr, and Shanny. They seem to actually be holding up the Dubinsky's and the Dawes who I am also starting to like.

I would love to see Dubinsky centering L.A's second line with Frolov and Cammellari. I am crossing my fingures that Sather panicks and offers him up in a package for Blake or Nagy, or Visnovsky or Stuart or one of our firesale vets that will be traded of to playoff conteneders.
Dubinsky has a greater impact on this team than those players would. Its not happening.

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It may also be the exposure to Jags, Shanny, Gomer, & Drury who are teaching him things coaches can't. Add the level of competition plus a player who may have above average hockey sense and general intelligence, and you have someone that explodes when given these kind of opportunities. I don't see it as he was slacking in the AHL, but rather he had learned what he could and need the next level of experience for him to reach his potential.
Well then is he an exception to the stated Rangers Management rule/mandate that they want to see a prospect dominate in the lowel level (AHL) before they utilize them at the NHL level?

Michael Sauer is apparently struggling a bit to play w/ the Wolfpack... Does he get called up and have a Dan Girardi type showing or do we leave him down in the AHL until he proves he can be dominant at that level?

Questions I don't have answers to.

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Well then is he an exception to the stated Rangers Management rule/mandate that they want to see a prospect dominate in the lowel level (AHL) before they utilize them at the NHL level?

Michael Sauer is apparently struggling a bit to play w/ the Wolfpack... Does he get called up and have a Dan Girardi type showing or do we leave him down in the AHL until he proves he can be dominant at that level?
Questions I don't have answers to.
different conditions.....dubinsky had a great second half of the year....he never seemed out of place.......great skater.....

sauer has looked a little out of place in AHL, letting people skate around him and such.....i think he will be a very good nhjl defencman, but he needs a little moe time to learn how to play better defensively in the transition game before he can stick in the nhl

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i can finally say i am happy to have dubi nd nobody else

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If you want to ship Dubinsky to L.A I would love it. He is a big bodied, skilled player that can skate and is aggressive. He is young, worked hard to make the team and seems very mature for his age. You guys have a rare find there.

I watch a lot of Ranger games and I would love to see you guys shed your vets like Jagr, and Shanny. They seem to actually be holding up the Dubinsky's and the Dawes who I am also starting to like.

I would love to see Dubinsky centering L.A's second line with Frolov and Cammellari. I am crossing my fingures that Sather panicks and offers him up in a package for Blake or Nagy, or Visnovsky or Stuart or one of our firesale vets that will be traded of to playoff conteneders.
Dubi's become as much of untouchable as anyone not named Lundqvist or Staal. Don't expect seeing his name in trade rumors...unless it's "X team would LOVE to get Brandon Dubinsky".

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Man, has this kid ever grown from the beginning of the season.

Man, is he ever fun to watch.

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some of the comments in this thread really perplex me-- i wonder if everyone just has amnesia or something, but for the longest time Dubinsky was thought of as the Ranger's top offensive prospect. We were all drooling over him in the WHL when he was putting up really good numbers and his physical play was appreciated.

Dubinsky didn't put up amazing numbers in his first AHL season and a bunch of people started saying stuff like "he's a career third liner" etc. but Dubinsky has always had a ton of offensive skill. And, if you remember his WHL days, he's a much better passer than scorer, so one day soon he could be a really well rounded top line center

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Michael Sauer is apparently struggling a bit to play w/ the Wolfpack... Does he get called up and have a Dan Girardi type showing or do we leave him down in the AHL until he proves he can be dominant at that level?
Let's not forget that the learning curve for d-men is much longer.

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On a different note... Is anyone else a bit perplexed at the level in which Dubinsky's development has skyrocketed since he started playing in the NHL? If you were to create a line graph of Dubinsky's level of play/development over the last 2-3 years, you would see a HUGE SPIKE these last 6 months or so... It seems he has turned it on the most once he hit the highest level of competition.... Which says wonders about his character but still surprises me....
I think he's just a bit of a slow starter. It took him awhile to really acclimate to the AHL, same with the NHL.

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Another totally impressive game.....what an amazing pick this kid has turned out to be ( knock wood)

Does he have a weakness to his game? Other than just being a rookie, I dont see one.

Maybe he's just baffeling me with the 110% of hustle and effort every shift.

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He's really getting used to his size and adjusting at a fast rate. He's turning into a big skilled guy who throws his body around. That's a pretty nice package.

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He's really getting used to his size and adjusting at a fast rate. He's turning into a big skilled guy who throws his body around. That's a pretty nice package.
8 points in his last 10

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His goal today was the most important of the game IMO. It got me thinking that a comeback was possible.

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That shot today was an awesome snipe.

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Great to have a home grown kid who grew up a Rangers fan. Can't imagine them moving him any time soon.

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Another totally impressive game.....what an amazing pick this kid has turned out to be ( knock wood)

Does he have a weakness to his game? Other than just being a rookie, I dont see one.

Maybe he's just baffeling me with the 110% of hustle and effort every shift.
He can't fight

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