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01-26-2004, 07:37 PM
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Just wanted to get the opinion of you Stars' fans. What would you guys think of a Koivu for Arnott deal. There would obviously be picks involved to even out the deal but judging from the core alone, what do you think? Habs need a centerman with size while a player like Koivu would probably excel in the West. Koivu is a good leader with tremendous skill. What do you guys/gals think of this deal. Any input on the proposal or Arnott is appreciated.

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What is it with you guys and Jason Arnott? Why would you aquire him for what has been your franchise player over the past 7 years? It would show a huge amount of disrespect, IMO.

Either way, the Stars wouldn't do it, not because it's off valuewise, cause it would actually favor the Stars, but simply since Arnott has a deeper purpose on the team then most of you realise. Arnott was aquired for a few reasons:

A) Size, the Stars might play tough, but they average size is nothing to write home about.

B) Faceoffs, essential need for the Stars and Arnie appears to be their best man in the circle.

C) Form a new lethal center combo with Mike Modano, as it appeared to be the formula to succes during their '99 Cup run.

D) Extreme playoff performer. Contenders value these charactes extremely high..

E) Modano is 33 and turns 34 this year. Ever since 3 years ago, Mike has seriously contemplated retirement since he is starting to lose the fun of playing it (special thanks to Ruslan Salei). Arnott was brought in as an insurance, he's 29, brings a complete package, is not overpaid and can handle himself just perfectly as a #1 center. And with Modano's lackluster play this year, don't be suprised to see him hang up his skates before he even starts to decline, talentwise.

F) Just his package in general, size, powershot, solid skating, leadership, physical, defensively responsible, etc.. He has it all, though he might not be quite the most consistent player in the NHL.

As you can see, Arnott fills a lot of voids, most of them could not be furfilled by Saku Koivu. To top it off, we have a simular type of player in Pierre Turgeon. Arnott brings the diversity among our centerman which is a must, we can't go into playoff war with 3 soft centers..

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It is not that it is not an even trade because it is close but given the size and face-offs I do not think the stars have an interest. If they falter and decide to scrap the year then we will be talking about a young d-man (hainsey , Komi) and a young scoring winger (balej, Plenakac) as a starting point IMO

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Just wanted to get the opinion of you Stars' fans. What would you guys think of a Koivu for Arnott deal. There would obviously be picks involved to even out the deal but judging from the core alone, what do you think? Habs need a centerman with size while a player like Koivu would probably excel in the West. Koivu is a good leader with tremendous skill. What do you guys/gals think of this deal. Any input on the proposal or Arnott is appreciated.
Sure! Want Matty for Breezebye too?

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What is it with you guys and Jason Arnott? Why would you aquire him for what has been your franchise player over the past 7 years? It would show a huge amount of disrespect, IMO.

Either way, the Stars wouldn't do it, not because it's off valuewise, cause it would actually favor the Stars, but simply since Arnott has a deeper purpose on the team then most of you realise. Arnott was aquired for a few reasons:

A) Size, the Stars might play tough, but they average size is nothing to write home about.

B) Faceoffs, essential need for the Stars and Arnie appears to be their best man in the circle.

C) Form a new lethal center combo with Mike Modano, as it appeared to be the formula to succes during their '99 Cup run.

D) Extreme playoff performer. Contenders value these charactes extremely high..

E) Modano is 33 and turns 34 this year. Ever since 3 years ago, Mike has seriously contemplated retirement since he is starting to lose the fun of playing it (special thanks to Ruslan Salei). Arnott was brought in as an insurance, he's 29, brings a complete package, is not overpaid and can handle himself just perfectly as a #1 center. And with Modano's lackluster play this year, don't be suprised to see him hang up his skates before he even starts to decline, talentwise.

F) Just his package in general, size, powershot, solid skating, leadership, physical, defensively responsible, etc.. He has it all, though he might not be quite the most consistent player in the NHL.

As you can see, Arnott fills a lot of voids, most of them could not be furfilled by Saku Koivu. To top it off, we have a simular type of player in Pierre Turgeon. Arnott brings the diversity among our centerman which is a must, we can't go into playoff war with 3 soft centers..

I wouldn't say that Koivu is our "franchise" player. He's been our top offensive player but not franchise. Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, those are franchise player. Theodore is our franchise player, not Koivu. Satan is arguably Buffalo's best offensive player, but would you consider him a franchise player? Koivu has brought good leadership to the Habs and years of solid play unfortunately we also desperately need size up front. Koivu is not top on the list to be traded but he is by no means untouchable or untradable. I don't know what you mean by disrespect because it is a business and I hope that if Gainey had a chance to improve the team, even if it meant trading Koivu, that he would do it.

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