HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > St. Louis Blues
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2007-08 Team Information (contracts, lines, injuries, etc.)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
08-20-2007, 09:22 AM
  #1
Irish Blues
____________________
 
Irish Blues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Country: St Helena
Posts: 21,804
vCash: 500
2007-08 Team Information (contracts, lines, injuries, etc.)

This space reserved for salary information

__________________
No promises this time.
Irish Blues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-20-2007, 09:22 AM
  #2
Irish Blues
____________________
 
Irish Blues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Country: St Helena
Posts: 21,804
vCash: 500
Current expected lines and injuries

Forwards
1st: Paul Kariya (LW) - Keith Tkachuk (C) - Brad Boyes (RW)
2nd: David Perron (LW) - Doug Weight (C) - Lee Stempniak (RW)
3rd: Dan Hinote (LW) - Jay McClement (C) - Jamal Mayers (RW)
4th: Mike Johnson (LW) - Ryan Johnson (C) - D.J. King (RW)
Extra: Martin Rucinsky (LW)

Defense
1st: Eric Brewer - Erik Johnson
2nd: Barret Jackman - Bryce Salvador
3rd: Christian Backman - Steven Wagner
Extra: Jay McKee, Matt Walker

Goalies
Starter: Hannu Toivonen
Backup: Marek Schwarz

Injured reserve: Manny Legace (IR, knee; day-to-day)

*** The lines shown above are for illustrative purposes only and should not be considered de-facto lines ***


Players in Peoria (only players signed to NHL contract listed)

Forwards: Michal Birner, Nicholas Drazenovic, Mike Glumac, Martin Kariya, Nikolai Lemtyugov, Charles Linglet, Chris Porter, Ryan Reaves, Yan Stastny, Jean-Guy Trudel, Trent Whitfield
Defense: Alex Brooks, Micki Dupont, Alexander Hellström, Roman Polak, Jeff Woywitka
Goal: Marek Schwarz (starter), Juuso Riksman (bailed on team and suspended)

Others (signed or unsigned, for which the Blues have rights)

Viktor Alexandrov, F, Russia (Team TBD)
Konstantin Barulin, G, Russia (Team TBD)
Patrik Berglund, F, VIK Västerås (Sweden Allsvenskan)
Reto Berra, G, Davos (Switzerland NL-A)
Ben Bishop, G, University of Maine (HEA)
Ian Cole, D, University of Notre Dame (CCHA)
Lars Eller, F, Sweden (Team TBD)
Travis Erstad, F, Lincoln (USHL)
Cade Fairchild, D, University of Minnesota (WCHA)
Francois-Pierre Guenette, C, Alaska (ECHL)
Simon Hjalmarsson, F, Frolunda Jr. (Swe J18)
Jonas Junland, D, Linkopings (SEL)
Tomas Kana, C, HC Vitkovice (Cze O2 Extraliga)
Matthew McCollem, F, Harvard University (ECAC)
Nikita Nikitin, D, Avangard Omsk (Russia Superleague)
Trevor Nill, F, Penticton (BCJHL)
T.J. Oshie, F, University of North Dakota (WCHA)
Aaron Palushaj, F, University if Michigan (CCHA)
Anthony Peluso, F/D, Erie (OHL)
Andrew Sackrison, F, Minnesota State University - Mankato (WCHA)
Evgeny Skachkov, F, Russia (Team TBD)
Brett Sonne, LW/C, Calgary (WHL)
Ryan Turek, F/D, Michigan State University (CCHA)


Last edited by Irish Blues: 12-08-2007 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Spelling corrections and additions to IB's original post...
Irish Blues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-20-2007, 11:11 AM
  #3
Prussian_Blue
Registered User
 
Prussian_Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Country: Germany
Posts: 7,753
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Blues
This space reserved for current expected lines and injury updates

(under construction)

Forwards
1st: Paul Kariya (LW) - Keith Tkachuk (C) - Petr Cajanek (RW)
2nd: Martin Rucinsky (LW) - Doug Weight (C) - Brad Boyes (RW)
3rd: David Backes (LW) - Jay McClement (C) - Lee Stempniak (RW)
4th: Ryan Johnson (LW) - Dan Hinote (C) - Jamal Mayers (RW)
Extra: D.J. King (RW)

Defense
1st: Eric Brewer - Jay McKee
2nd: Barret Jackman - Erik Johnson
3rd: Christian Backman - Matt Walker
Extra: Jeff Woywitka, Bryce Salvador

Goalies
Starter: Manny Legace
Backup: TBD (either Hannu Toivonen or Jason Bacashihua)

*** The lines shown above are for illustrative purposes only and should not be considered de-facto lines ***

Players in Peoria (only players signed to NHL contract listed)
Forwards: Michal Birner, Nicholas Drazenovic, Mike Glumac, Francois-Pierre Guenette, Tomas Kana, Martin Kariya, Nikolai Lemtyugov, Charles Linglet, Ryan Reaves, Yan Stastny, Jean-Guy Trudeau, Trent Whitfield
Defense: Alex Brooks, Micki Dupont, Alexander Hellstrom, Jonas Junland, Roman Polak, Steve Wagner
Goal: Marek Schwarz (starter), Toivonen/Bacashihua (whichever doesn't end up as the NHL backup), Jukko Riksman

Others (signed or unsigned, for which the Blues have rights)
Patrik Berglund, F, Vasteras (SWE)
Ben Bishop, G, University of Maine (NCAA)
Ian Cole, D, University of Notre Dame (NCAA)
Lars Eller, F, Sweden
Nikita Nikitin, D, Russia
T.J. Oshie, F, University of North Dakota (NCAA)
1. It's "Jusso" Riksman...

2. Are you confident that the Blues will place Junland in Peoria this year, or do you see him going back to Sweden for another year? I'd love to see him in Peoria, myself...

3. I really like the Peoria lineup you've got posted here. I think it has the right mix of veterans and kids, and a lot of scoring potential up and down the lineup. The defense looks very strong, too, and the goaltending should be first-rate.

4. There are a ton of "Others" whom you did not list -- Perron, Fairchild, Palushaj, Hjalmarsson, Sonne, Peluso, Berra, Turek, Sackrison, McCollem, Erstad, Nill, Skachkov, Alexandrov, Barulin.

The Blues do still hold the rights to the last three, along with Pervyshin and Semin, yes? Pervyshin clearly has the talent to be a North American pro, but his size will absolutely work against him. Semin is essentially a non-entity; Skachkov would have joined Semin on the "non-entity" list if he hadn't shown up for the Prospect Camp, and shown me enough to be mildly interested.

5. What's the situation with Shishkanov? I know you said earlier that the Blues have yanked the contracts of Shkotov and Zakharov, but is Shishkanov still part of the organ-I-zation in some way?

P_B


Prussian_Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-20-2007, 12:17 PM
  #4
Irish Blues
____________________
 
Irish Blues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Country: St Helena
Posts: 21,804
vCash: 500
1. You're a mod here ... you can update things as needed, too.
2. As mentioned in the 2nd line ... it's still "under construction" ... feel free to help out. In fact, I whole-heartedly encourage you to help out with your extensive knowledge of the Blues prospects!
3. Shishkanov is still property of the Blues - he sits on their Reserve List (maximum 90 players ... don't recall exactly how many are on it but we can leave him there until he turns 27 and becomes UFA and not worry about it) but just doesn't have a contract.

Irish Blues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-21-2007, 01:19 AM
  #5
Blue Sur
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Shyber's Pace
Country: St Lucia
Posts: 322
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian_Blue View Post
1. It's "Jusso" Riksman...
Sorry P_B, he is Juuso Riksman


Another correction would be Jean-Guy Trudel in Peoria.

Blue Sur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-21-2007, 04:39 PM
  #6
Prussian_Blue
Registered User
 
Prussian_Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Country: Germany
Posts: 7,753
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sur View Post
Sorry P_B, he is Juuso Riksman

Another correction would be Jean-Guy Trudel in Peoria.


Good catch on both, Blue Sur... I'll make the corrections in IB's post.

P_B


Prussian_Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-22-2007, 01:14 AM
  #7
Blue Sur
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Shyber's Pace
Country: St Lucia
Posts: 322
vCash: 500
One more thing that caught my eye: Patrik Berglund's club, if we get the äåö correctly, is Västerås IK. VIK is the abbreviation. Thanks for the list.

Blue Sur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-23-2007, 08:50 AM
  #8
Yabob
Registered User
 
Yabob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Linköping
Country: Sweden
Posts: 586
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian_Blue View Post
2. Are you confident that the Blues will place Junland in Peoria this year, or do you see him going back to Sweden for another year? I'd love to see him in Peoria, myself...
It was clearly stated by both Junland and his agent that he will play at least on more year in Sweden. This was appearently something that Junland, his Swedish team and the Blues all agreed on. Also the Blues can't really do anything until he decides to give playing in NA a shot.

By the way, I expect him to get a lot of time on the ice this year... especially if you consider his current teams lack of offensive d-men for the moment.

Yabob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-19-2007, 04:24 AM
  #9
Blue Sur
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Shyber's Pace
Country: St Lucia
Posts: 322
vCash: 500
I wonder if P_B or IB might make a few changes to that roster above, removing Cajanek and Bacashihua and including Perron and Mike Johnson and Wagner. If you deem it worth your time.


Last edited by Blue Sur: 11-19-2007 at 04:25 AM. Reason: accuracy counts, especially in a mod's abbreviation
Blue Sur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-19-2007, 11:16 PM
  #10
Irish Blues
____________________
 
Irish Blues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Country: St Helena
Posts: 21,804
vCash: 500
Shishkanov isn't suspended - he simply left after his last contract expired at the end of 2005-06 and refused to take the Blues qualifying offer.

The lines and rosters are mostly corrected, I'll flesh out the rest later on this week or late next week.

Irish Blues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-20-2007, 09:32 AM
  #11
Prussian_Blue
Registered User
 
Prussian_Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Country: Germany
Posts: 7,753
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Blues View Post
Shishkanov isn't suspended - he simply left after his last contract expired at the end of 2005-06 and refused to take the Blues qualifying offer.

The lines and rosters are mostly corrected, I'll flesh out the rest later on this week or late next week.
Made some corrections for ya, IB.

Happy Thanksgiving.

P_B


Prussian_Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-21-2007, 03:59 PM
  #12
TK 421
Donut Squad
 
TK 421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,515
vCash: 500
I thought Porter was on a two-way, is this incorrect ?

TK 421 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-08-2007, 03:44 AM
  #13
ChicagoBlues
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,414
vCash: 500
I think JD and Pleau should not resign Rucinsky,
Salvador, Ryan Johnson and Mike Johnson.
That accounts for about 5 million or so.
Combine that with the amount we won't have to pay Riksman and Cajanek.
And the amount we would have to pay Erik Johnson if he meets all of his incentives.
Which he probably will not meet all of the incentives in order to make the 3.7M....
Plus the salary cap will rise for next season.

Long story made shorter is that the Blues will have plenty of cap room and flexibility.

I think the Blues need to bring back Weight for one more season because we'll have another big influx of youngsters in 2008.

When the time is right the Blues need to tender Boyes for at least 3-3.25M per season for 3 years. Maybe more.

Sign Backes for 1.5M per season (including incentives) for 2-3 years.

Sign McClement for 1.1M for next season only. He needs to prove himself.

That leaves Toivonen and Jackman as my other priority Blues deals.

Sign Toivonen, but I have no idea for how much the Blues should sign him??!!???

Jackman????? not sure at all

Free agents???? next


Thoughts?!

ChicagoBlues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-08-2007, 12:57 PM
  #14
Robb_K
Registered User
 
Robb_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NordHolandNethrlands
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,497
vCash: 500
I don't think The Blues can afford to sign Weight for another year. They'd have to pay him at least $2 million, or he'd be insulted. He just can't cut it as a centre anymore. He could play on The Blues' 3rd scoring line as a LW, and be a decent bargain at $1 million. But I can't see that deal happening.

But, I think I'd rather see them spend a little more, and get a significantly younger player who will skate faster, hit more consistently, and produce more scoring. I think Weight is where Drake was last year. He's okay at 12 minutes a game, with some games off. Maybe he'll want to play those minutes with another team, or even play more than that with a talent-weak team,-or maybe decide to retire. He still has flashes of spark and energy, but also periods of tiredness.

Robb_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-08-2007, 02:52 PM
  #15
ChicagoBlues
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,414
vCash: 500
I see what you're saying about the amount we'd have to pay Weight. 2M for one more season is reasonable. 2M is about what I was thinking. My reasoning is that we need to bring along the young ones with some veteran, skilled-forward leadership and the Blues don't have much. We've got Tkachuk and Kariya. And Mayers is respected, but not a skill guy. Same with Hinote.

Weight is not only respected, but is a skill player (even though he has lost his legs a bit, he still has one more good season left).

I am rethinking my McClement deal/idea and think he should be offered not 1.1M for one year, because that makes no sense at all. How about 1M per for two seasons?

ChicagoBlues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-05-2008, 03:37 PM
  #16
BluesFanSTL15
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 52
vCash: 500
Trade Jackman before or at deadline
Trade/NO resign Rucinsky
Do not resign Mike Johnson
Give extensions to Ryan Johnson and Salvador
Tender qualifying offers to Toivy, Boyes, Backes, Mcclement..etc
Sign Oshie/Duncan
Let Drazenovic, Lemtyugov, Linglet, Talbot, berglund, Polak, Wagner, Hellstrom, schwarz all have a chance to crack roster or push players out

08-09 lines
F
boyes - kariya - Perron
Berglund - mcdonald - tkachuk
oshie - stemp - backes
mayers - Rjohnson - hinote/mcclement

brewer - salvador
mckee - johnson
backman - wagner/woywitka/polak/walker

legace - toivy/schwarz

BluesFanSTL15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-05-2008, 04:43 PM
  #17
General Veers
Registered User
 
General Veers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: St. Louis
Country: United States
Posts: 1,951
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluesFanSTL15 View Post
Trade Jackman before or at deadline
Trade/NO resign Rucinsky
Do not resign Mike Johnson
Give extensions to Ryan Johnson and Salvador
Tender qualifying offers to Toivy, Boyes, Backes, Mcclement..etc
Sign Oshie/Duncan
Let Drazenovic, Lemtyugov, Linglet, Talbot, berglund, Polak, Wagner, Hellstrom, schwarz all have a chance to crack roster or push players out

08-09 lines
F
boyes - kariya - Perron
Berglund - mcdonald - tkachuk
oshie - stemp - backes
mayers - Rjohnson - hinote/mcclement

brewer - salvador
mckee - johnson
backman - wagner/woywitka/polak/walker

legace - toivy/schwarz
Switch Bergs and Stempy and you've got something!

General Veers is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:03 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.