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The *official* Gainey 'stop being a tool and sign players now' thread.

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02-02-2008, 06:39 PM
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What bothers me about locking up Streit for a while is that it doesn't leave much room for the kids to come up.

We already have the top 3 spots locked up for a while (Komisarek will get a long term contract whenever possible).
I know that Bouillon and Dandeneault are going to be gone soon but then it leaves you with

Markov
Komisarek
Hamrlik
Streit
Gorges
O'Byrne

When do Valentenko, Emelin, McDonagh, Carle, Subban and company get to play?
Let him play defense until the kids are ready. When they are, he can shift into a forward/PP specialist spot.

Plus, he's a great team player and a good leader. He leads by example.

This team would be a lot worse off with Streit.

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Streit rocks and deserves a decent deal. We definitely have some guys to sing up to new deals. Let's hope he gets it done.

Still can't believe Streit. What a pick he turned out to be.

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02-02-2008, 07:07 PM
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Streit rocks and deserves a decent deal. We definitely have some guys to sing up to new deals. Let's hope he gets it done.

Still can't believe Streit. What a pick he turned out to be.

Timmins >>>>>>> God + Chuck Norris

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02-02-2008, 07:10 PM
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What bothers me about locking up Streit for a while is that it doesn't leave much room for the kids to come up.

We already have the top 3 spots locked up for a while (Komisarek will get a long term contract whenever possible).
I know that Bouillon and Dandeneault are going to be gone soon but then it leaves you with

Markov
Komisarek
Hamrlik
Streit
Gorges
O'Byrne

When do Valentenko, Emelin, McDonagh, Carle, Subban and company get to play?

As John Houseman would have said'

"The old-fashioned way. When they EARN it."

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02-02-2008, 07:18 PM
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I hope they find a way to keep Streit. I like what he brings. Still, his role is a utility role. He's probably the best specialist/bouche trou in the league but as good as he is, what is the role worth ?

If signing him to a similar deal to what Dandenault or Bouillon got, and it hampers Gainey from keeping one of either #8,14,21 or 46 down he road, you can't do it.
I like Streit as much as the next guy but let's not forget that at the beginning of the year, many thought the loss of Souray was irreplaceable. Streit is partly a product of the system and a unidimensional player. Along with his PP points, he is the least reliable defenseman 5 on 5. If I am not mistaken he is still second wose in + / -. I prefer his role on the fourth line with PP duties. He defintely deserves a raise but not in the 3 million range.

I don't understand all the chatter today that Gainey must sign all these players NOW. Let the man do his job, he is much more qualified that any posters on this board - except VLAD of coarse.

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02-02-2008, 07:38 PM
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I like Streit as much as the next guy but let's not forget that at the beginning of the year, many thought the loss of Souray was irreplaceable. Streit is partly a product of the system and a unidimensional player. Along with his PP points, he is the least reliable defenseman 5 on 5. If I am not mistaken he is still second wose in + / -. I prefer his role on the fourth line with PP duties. He defintely deserves a raise but not in the 3 million range.
I don't know about "irreplaceable", but I sure thought the loss of Souray would at least have _some_ tangible effect on the PP. Like, say, a drop from 1st to 10th or something like that. But that's the right comparison to make. Streit has a good shot, but he's still not the absolute weapon Souray was. And Streit doesn't have the size/character dimension of Souray. You could still get decent defense out of Souray on the PK too, whereas I wouldn't trust Streit there at all. As maligned as Souray's defense has been, all in all I think he was still better than Streit in the defensive aspect. So in short, after totally not skipping a beat while losing Souray - I think we'd be even less likely to skip a beat while losing Streit. He's a nice enough player to keep if the price is right. But if it's not, then there are market options for replacing him, just like we did with Souray. And there are internal options too.

But to be honest, I don't think it will come to that. The Habs are usually pretty generous in recognizing the contributions of an impending UFA. And if Streit gave us bargain value on his current deal, Gainey probably will take that into account with a bit extra on a new deal. Hey, if we're a top team and can get a bit of a playoff foothold this year too, our grass just gets greener both in terms of attracting players from outside, but also in terms of retaining our own guys who have grown with the team. Especially to a guy who we gave some extra chances to like Streit. It ought to be a bit of a two-way street (or Streit!) in negotiations. I don't think you'd see Streit pushing the envelope on what his open market value might be. And I don't think the Habs are too likely to lowball a guy they really want to keep around. Although the players are totally different here, I'd suspect that this situation is as likely as anything to approach the Markov-style deal where the sides are able to amicably settle on something mutually beneficial.

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