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02-10-2008, 08:46 AM
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Latendresse need to be more aggressif

I don't mean he need to fight every game or become crazy , but god damn is he a power forward or not? He's what? 6pi2 ? 230 lbs ? He really need to be more aggressif with his hits and when the game is heating up. And sometimes he should drop the gloves , and if he's scare right now , the club should teach him how to fight...He should really improve in those area since he's not a very good skater.I dont care about his skating abilities if he can hit a lot , fight sometimes , and be aggressif *quand ya une melé*.He'll never be a fast skater , so just improve what your suppose to be good at.

It's a not a ''hate latendresse'' thread , it is some serious question i'm asking right now.

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02-10-2008, 08:48 AM
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I'm not sure if I want him to fight because of his history of concussions...and I would hate to lose him for his career or something due to that.

But for sure he needs to be more agressive...I have always said put him out on the PP and just get in front of the net and pester the goalie. He makes like 1 or 2 hits a game ....he needs to crunch some bodies and eat some babies.

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I agree, I remember Lats being a lot more aggressive when he first came up. He still throws some nice hits once in awhile, but not with the regularity that he did in his 1st year.

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I am not a fan of Lats, and I bet you a guy like D'Agostini or Chipchura can fill the job better than him.

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02-10-2008, 08:56 AM
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I am not a fan of Lats, and I bet you a guy like D'Agostini or Chipchura can fill the job better than him.
He is still a young kid give him a chance.

I think he still has a lot of upside and has a CHANCE to become a great power forward but he needs to use his size and strength.

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02-10-2008, 08:57 AM
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when he was in his first pro camp with the team, i remember that he was hitting a lot and very hard and he was doing everything to score goals...

now, this part of his game seems to have regressed. yes he still hits from time to time but it's usually not as hard as it once was. Also, he was excellent to protect the puck in the offensive zone, along the boards... and he seems to have lost it.

i don't know if he played like that in the training camp because he was "rested" (summer)...

however, i think he has progressed in terms of passing, deking, patience and speed... but adding a few other things to his play will make him develop into a good player. Also, I think he should play less on the 4th line... playing more and with better linemates will surely develop him... just like it happened with kostitsyn.

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02-10-2008, 08:58 AM
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He is still a young kid give him a chance.

I think he still has a lot of upside and has a CHANCE to become a great power forward but he needs to use his size and strength.
I agree, but I liked what I saw from Latendresse in the training camps, that's the kind of player he should be on a game by game basis.
I just don't like the way he's progressed.

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I am not a fan of Lats, and I bet you a guy like D'Agostini or Chipchura can fill the job better than him.
depends of what "job" you are talking about...

to score goals and hit, lats is way better than chipchura (and most probably better than d'agostini as we talk).

for devensive play, chipchura is better.

totally different players IMO and they shouldn't be compared.

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depends of what "job" you are talking about...

to score goals and hit, lats is way better than chipchura (and most probably better than d'agostini as we talk).

for devensive play, chipchura is better.

totally different players IMO and they shouldn't be compared.
The "job" I meant is where he's playing now.
Tender plays anywhere from the 1st to 4th line, I like Chipchura's overall more than Lats, I think he's more complete and besides hitting, Chips can do just as good if not better than what Latendresse has done this year.

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I agree, but I liked what I saw from Latendresse in the training camps, that's the kind of player he should be on a game by game basis.
I just don't like the way he's progressed.
I agree that is up for some debate. But I am happy he is on the team.

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The "job" I meant is where he's playing now.
Tender plays anywhere from the 1st to 4th line, I like Chipchura's overall more than Lats, I think he's more complete and besides hitting, Chips can do just as good if not better than what Latendresse has done this year.
Isn't Chips a center and Lats a winger though?

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Isn't Chips a center and Lats a winger though?
Yes, but would it honestly make a difference if Chip were on the wing?

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Agreed he does need to be more aggressive, I mean too often we've been seeing SKostitsyn getting tough out their when we are down to stir something up and his linemates half the time are also small players ie. Koivu. This is very upsetting, I'm disgusted with guys like Kostopolus and Lats who could really be providing a big edge in these games and dont. Losing 6-1 sucks and maybe if these guys could have thrown a few big hits it may have kept their big line on edge a little. Instead Redden beats up SKostitsyn, whoooo hooooooo

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Yes, but would it honestly make a difference if Chip were on the wing?
Arguably .....yes.

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I am not a fan of Lats, and I bet you a guy like D'Agostini or Chipchura can fill the job better than him.
I disagree but only because Lats is projected to be a solid power forward off the wing. None of the others you named are projected to be like that, except maybe Chips. But I can't see the Habs moving him from center to the wing.

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02-10-2008, 09:09 AM
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One possibility about his hitting regularity is that he can't hit like in the training camp because now he know he must fight if he's throwing a bunch of hits none-stop.In hockey if you're hitting none-stop you must fight sometimes because you can't hit and then back down too often.

I'm 6p 180 lbs & I'm the kind of person who's not afraid of everyone , a little bit like Bouillon , *j'ai du chien* , I would love to see Tender become like that.Il faut qu'il affronte ses peur si il en a.He's a big guy , there's no reason to be afraid.Learn to fight if you're not confidant in your fight ability and you fear the humiliation.Fight more often on the road to begin.I dont know , theres a lot of trick he can use.

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I'm not sure if I want him to fight because of his history of concussions...and I would hate to lose him for his career or something due to that.

But for sure he needs to be more agressive...I have always said put him out on the PP and just get in front of the net and pester the goalie. He makes like 1 or 2 hits a game ....he needs to crunch some bodies and eat some babies.

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Problem is he's so inconsistent. He doesn't always go to the net hard and is not willing sacrifice himself to stay in front of the net like Holmstrom.

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One possibility about his hitting regularity is that he can't hit like in the training camp because now he know he must fight if he's throwing a bunch of hits none-stop.In hockey if you're hitting none-stop you must fight sometimes because you can't hit and then back down too often.
Very good observation Hochelaga, but there is still fighting during the pre-season.

But you could be right, maybe Lats isn't hitting quite as much as before because he's not a fighter. All I know is during his 1st training camp I was very impressed with him being agressive. But like tiredman said, I have seen a lot of improvements in other parts of his game.

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Problem is he's so inconsistent. He doesn't always go to the net hard and is not willing sacrifice himself to stay in front of the net like Holmstrom.
I totally agree.

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Problem is he's so inconsistent. He doesn't always go to the net hard and is not willing sacrifice himself to stay in front of the net like Holmstrom.
I blame that on age more then anything else. Most young players during their formative years are very inconsistent.

But I agree, he seems to have lost his edge a little bit this year.

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Lats has been horrible for weeks now but the media and fans let him off the hook because he is young and possibly because he's French.

He plays like a 150 lbs centre, trying to be fancy when he should be shooting, not hitting and not playing the crash and bang hockey he should be using. He also doesn't stand in front of the net enough and his skating has not improved at all.

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they will ask him to take power skating lessons this summer

but he will take them, not like a certain portorican i dont remember the name

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All of us hope and pray for Latendresse to become that powerfoward we've
dreamed of.But , for me , his progress has slowed.I worry that he may never
develop to the point of being a top 6 forward.His skating is still a huge issue
that makes him late on plays and a liability on defense.He still has lots of hits
but most are after the pass has been made and rarely results in a turnover.His
size and strength allow him to control the puck along the boards but the one
man cycle is getting a little old.That scary combination of size,strength and
great hands is an asset worthy of great care and attention.
Though probably very unpopular, I believe 10-20 games in Hamilton would be
the best for his development-ala Laps and currently Chips.It would give him a
chance to be the "man", play in all situations,gain some confidence,work on
the skating,etc.

Just my thoughts.

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he was excellent to protect the puck in the offensive zone, along the boards... and he seems to have lost it
I'm sure if he ever got the puck in the offensive zone he'd be doing a decent job of protecting it.

There's simply no two ways about, no ifs ands or buts, no [insert cliche], the kid has to stop playing like a little female genitalia. When there are scrums, I WANNA SEE AT LEAST A FACEWASH!!!!!!!!!!!

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