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02-14-2008, 11:37 AM
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I added him. He'll be my one token Canadian unless I can get a more compelling argument for somebody else. Though he might be a fan of Toews, his dad played in the OHA. I'd rather list a Canadian with siblings or parents who played college.
Not only did you add him he's now ranked #2. Great Blog by the way keep up the good work.

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02-14-2008, 11:46 AM
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I added him. He'll be my one token Canadian unless I can get a more compelling argument for somebody else. Though he might be a fan of Toews, his dad played in the OHA. I'd rather list a Canadian with siblings or parents who played college.
His dad coaches the Manitoba Moose with former UND coach Brad Berry. Enough said. With UND only being 2 hours away. I think it is a compelling option.

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Not only did you add him he's now ranked #2. Great Blog by the way keep up the good work.
Definately the right place to put him if, according to nags, he's likely to play college. If he drops in the WHL draft, I think we might be tipped on which way he's going.

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02-14-2008, 11:51 AM
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This thread is retarded, those kids are still 14-15 years old
So the two dozen scouts that showed up for the AAA all star game in Winnipeg two weeks ago are retarded?

Every game there are three or four scouts in the stands. That is a fact folks.

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02-14-2008, 07:53 PM
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Rocco Grimaldi?

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02-15-2008, 09:16 AM
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Rocco Grimaldi?
http://www.pointstreak.com/players/p...&seasonid=2105

he is a 93 playing up with the U16 league, one of the top scorers

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02-15-2008, 01:41 PM
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http://www.pointstreak.com/players/p...&seasonid=2105

he is a 93 playing up with the U16 league, one of the top scorers
Why is he not in your first round then...?

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02-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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Why is he not in your first round then...?
Grimaldi suffers from the rare but incurable Devon MacAusland Disorder.

If he were taller than 5-5, he'd be slotted as a first-rounder right now. Sure, he can grow in the next three years, and if he does, the likelihood of him landing in the first round will increase.

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02-15-2008, 02:50 PM
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Dont any of you feel strange talking about 14 yearold kids? I mean I could see chatting about kids that will be drafted this upcoming draft or even the next but 14 yearold kids? Why not talk about who will be the next super star from class of 2015?

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Dont any of you feel strange talking about 14 yearold kids? I mean I could see chatting about kids that will be drafted this upcoming draft or even the next but 14 yearold kids? Why not talk about who will be the next super star from class of 2015?
It's not like we're trolling MySpace or Facebook looking to hook up with them, we're just talking about their hockey abilities, which is what this board is for. Well, Finnerican would probably hook up with Toni Rajala or Teemu Pulkkinen if given the chance, but that's another story for another time.

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Dont any of you feel strange talking about 14 yearold kids? I mean I could see chatting about kids that will be drafted this upcoming draft or even the next but 14 yearold kids? Why not talk about who will be the next super star from class of 2015?
My comments are only in relation to college recruiting. Yes, 14-year-olds are on college scouts' radars, just the same as the WHL, the OHL, and the QMJHL. In terms of ranking them for NHL draft purposes, I agree with you how silly it is to discuss players that young. I suppose the thread is titled 2011 draft prospects, but the board doesn't really say you can ONLY discuss the NHL.

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02-15-2008, 04:29 PM
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Grimaldi reminds me a lot of Jordan Schroeder. He's small, but he's got great hands and is very shifty. Like Schroeder, he'll have to prove that he can put up points at a higher level before he becomes an NHL prospect. I was kind of impressed with his toughness too. I think he's used to guys taking runs at him because he's pretty well-known and he seems to handle it pretty well.

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02-15-2008, 04:37 PM
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Why is he not in your first round then...?
I put him in my 2nd round at the moment, I found from last year and this year he has not gotten too much better, so I want to see him next year before I put him in the 1st round.

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Grimaldi suffers from the rare but incurable Devon MacAusland Disorder.

If he were taller than 5-5, he'd be slotted as a first-rounder right now. Sure, he can grow in the next three years, and if he does, the likelihood of him landing in the first round will increase.
Size queen. Martin St. Louis and Patrick Kane see your bluff and raise you 30.

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Size queen. Martin St. Louis and Patrick Kane see your bluff and raise you 30.
Fair enough, but that's two of the hundreds of 5-10-and-under players to come out in the past 10 to 15 years. Short skill players who succeed at the NHL level are definitely the exception, rather than the rule. College hockey, the ECHL and even the AHL (Darren Haydar, for example) are more apt to have the Mini-Mes of the world playing and playing at a high level.

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02-15-2008, 05:02 PM
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Fair enough, but that's two of the hundreds of 5-10-and-under players to come out in the past 10 to 15 years. Short skill players who succeed at the NHL level are definitely the exception, rather than the rule. College hockey, the ECHL and even the AHL (Darren Haydar, for example) are more apt to have the Mini-Mes of the world playing and playing at a high level.
Maybe in 1998 we this could be a valid discussion, but with more and more enforcing by officials and a faster game I see no problem of having players this short. Of course it's a detractor to more conservative scouts and it's also alot more of a risk, but if a player has skill why not? I mean there's alot of players, Granlund, MacAusland, etc, that have top 10 talent, but the size isn't up to 'par'. Teams, in my mind, and in maybe more liberal scouts minds, should draft by talent.


Rocco Grimaldi at 5'5" isn't playing against people that are 5'5", same with Granlund, MacAuslund, etc. The truth is these people are playing with NHL size people, and if they're producing the points and showing the talent with these size people who says they can't do it in the NHL, after years of maturation.

Hopefully for all of us, Grimaldi, MacAuslund and Granlund all grow so they can be taken seriously, but in my opinion size shouldn't be as big of an issue as it used to be.

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02-15-2008, 07:43 PM
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I mean there's alot of players, Granlund, MacAusland, etc, that have top 10 talent, but the size isn't up to 'par'.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; Markus Granlund don't look like a player that has top 10 talent, at least not at the moment. Overall there are no Finns in this draft class at present that I would project as a top ten talent.

"Top" 93s in CSM(U16) so far this season(Forwards):
JÄRVELÄINEN Ville 24.02.1993 Hämeenlinna 163 64 FIN R 10gp 6g+11a=17p
SALMINEN Sami 12.04.1993 Helsinki 190 80 FIN R 11gp 7g+6a=13p
GRANLUND Markus 16.04.1993 Oulu 164 56 FIN L 9gp 3g+10a=13p
REKONEN Aleksi 23.07.1993 Helsinki 174 70 FIN L 10gp 3g+10a=13p
VÄÄTÄINEN Niko 25.03.1993 Vantaa 165 62 FIN L 11gp 7g+3a=10p
NIEMITALO Aleksi 04.01.1993 Kemi 171 57 FIN L 7gp 1g+8a=9p
KORPELA Teemu 21.07.1993 Oulunsalo 173 63 FIN L 9gp 3g+4a=7p

Plus there are a few good 93s that play in different leagues, so it's possible that Markus Granlund isn't even a top ten talent of the Finnish 93s when we add goalies and defenders to the picture.

To put those stats into perspective, here's what Top Finnish prospects produced at the same age in CSM(U16):
RAJALA Toni 13gp 26g+20a=46p
PULKKINEN Teemu 11gp 21g+22a=43p
GRANLUND Mikael 11gp 15g+16a=31p

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Dont any of you feel strange talking about 14 yearold kids? I mean I could see chatting about kids that will be drafted this upcoming draft or even the next but 14 yearold kids? Why not talk about who will be the next super star from class of 2015?
Do you think junior teams pick players by throwing darts at the board with a blindfold on?

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Courturier is an exact Vincent Lecavalier clone, same skill set, same game, same body everything.

Just got back from watching Couturier and I thought he looked a lot like Joe Thornton.

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Just got back from watching Couturier and I thought he looked a lot like Joe Thornton.
Either way he is big with alot of skill and exciting to watch. I think he is going to be a special player (not crosby special but like a notch bellow)

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Either way he is big with alot of skill and exciting to watch. I think he is going to be a special player (not crosby special but like a notch bellow)
I agree. Him John Esposito and Jaden Schwartz dominated the play. Gormley didn't play today though.

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1. Sean Couturier—Forward—ND 6’01/158 34 20 27 47
is he from north dakota, is that what the ND is, because he could be the first player ive ever heard of from there. just curious i guess.

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1. Sean Couturier—Forward—ND 6’01/158 34 20 27 47
is he from north dakota, is that what the ND is, because he could be the first player ive ever heard of from there. just curious i guess.
No. Notre Dame in Sask. Midget AAA

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damn i was hoping he was american.

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According to the league's Web site, he's 6-3, 185 and not 6-1, 158 as mentioned above.

http://www.smaaahl.com/leagues/roste...layerID=331838

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