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01-29-2004, 04:38 AM
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druken for hossa???

I think this would be agreat deal, hossa is not perfoming well in the ahl, and drunken well he is a great layer with alot of still, i think a great deal. Put him and ryder and ribs on a line , wow. He should not be in the ahl right now

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I think this would be agreat deal, hossa is not perfoming well in the ahl, and drunken well he is a great layer with alot of still, i think a great deal. Put him and ryder and ribs on a line , wow. He should not be in the ahl right now
I just want to keep hossa !!
let just wait 1 or 2 years !! he still as big potential and good attitude toward the game !

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Hossa has more potential then Druken.

It's not going to happen, his stock is much higher.

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I think this would be agreat deal, hossa is not perfoming well in the ahl, and drunken well he is a great layer with alot of still, i think a great deal. Put him and ryder and ribs on a line , wow. He should not be in the ahl right now

I was never a fan of Drunken, but no way I would trade Hossa for him. And I hope Gainey wouldn't either. Hossa is loaded with skill and natural talent, imo. Yes he doesn't show the least bit of confidence or consistency, but thats what young players do, they have to work on improving their game. Hossa was saying in an interview tonight that he knows you can't score without shooting so he wants to shoot more. He's got a wicked shot and racked up 19 goals in 37 games in the AHL last year, so unless a very good reason comes along, I'd hold on Hossa for now. Let him stay in the AHL this year and maybe all of next year till he finds his game. If we trade him and he finds his game, it will suck very badly for us. He has NHL skills imo, just needs to work on somethings.

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Hasn't Druken been on waivers a couple times, and in the waiver draft a couple times as well?

Honestly, I don't know why people start these threads.

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01-29-2004, 05:57 AM
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one bad year now, yea maybe but i think he is quietly finding is game and see balej today ( compare to last season ).

So lets wait...he is from a hockey family, he got pressure, im sure he want to perform.

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He should not be in the ahl right now
Yes he should. Fedor Fedorov makes Druken look lazy.

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Montreal turned down a Harold Druken for Karl Dykhuis trade during the summer of 2002 so I doubt now, after Druken's stock has plummeted they would suddenly decide to bring him in and pay more for him.

Besides, who on the current roster could Druken unseat?

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01-29-2004, 11:08 AM
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You know, I must be suffering from a mild case of dyslexia because when I first glanced at the title of the thread, I thought it was a pro-Hossa thread written by a non-native English speaker, "Drunk for Hossa?"

Now that I've re-read it again together with the first post, and confirmed that I myself am not drunk, I've just got to say, "Whaaa--???" No no no - I would not want to see that trade go down, at least not for the next two to three years in which time we will be in a better position to gauge whether Hossa will live up to his potential.

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Why jump on Druken?

Druken on a sh*tty Maple Leafs team

26 games, 14 golas, 14 assists for 28 points. He just turned 25, is 6', 205.

Hossa on a strong Dogs team

27 games, 3 gols, 9 assists for 12 points. He just turned 23, is 6'2'', 212.


Don't see why this would be far fetched. Druken had a little attitude problem earlier.... ala Hossa.

As a Jr. Hossa had a high season of 34g, 56a
As a Jr. Druken had a high season of 58g, 45a

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Prrebel, you're getting pretty Newie-centric. The Habs, as much as it would be interesting, can't trade for every active player born on the Rock. What's next ? A franchise for Corner Brook ?

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Prrebel, you're getting pretty Newie-centric. The Habs, as much as it would be interesting, can't trade for every active player born on the Rock. What's next ? A franchise for Corner Brook ?
I live in Corner Brook. That would Rock. Maybe we would Get Todd Gillingnam (sp?) and Terry Ryan from our Corner Brook Royals to play for our new NHL Team Yes that's what I said, Terry Ryan is playing for a local Senior Hockey Team

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Sorry guys, I am not saying that I would trade Hossa for Druken, I'm just asking and showing why Druken shouldn't be dumped on. I personally would like to give Hossa another year to smarten up. I have seen Druken play 2 games this season (maybe 2 games don't make a season) and Druken carried the Leafs in both games. Druken has shown signs of coming out of it, while Hossa is yet too.

But hey;
Ryder-Langdon-Druken..........The good, the bad and the ugly

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[QUOTE=mcphee]Prrebel, you're getting pretty Newie-centric. The Habs, as much as it would be interesting, can't trade for every active player born on the Rock. QUOTE]

But if they did, that would be the team that I would party with

Newfie-centric? I like it!

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I'm sure if the habs want Druken, they would remain patient and grab him next time he gets put on waivers.

Hossa's upside and value have to be considered much higher than Druken's at the present time, although I'm sure if Hossa doesn't turn it around in the next year or so, he'll suffer the same fate as Druken.

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I think this would be agreat deal, hossa is not perfoming well in the ahl, and drunken well he is a great layer with alot of still, i think a great deal. Put him and ryder and ribs on a line , wow. He should not be in the ahl right now
NO WAY, Druken has AHL written all over him...nope

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I think Druken's a pretty good hockey player. Langdon is getting old at 32, he'll need a Newfish replacement pretty soon, because we need to keep Ryder happy . Unfortunately, I think if we were to deal Marcel Hossa the return could be much higher. He could be very valuable in acquiring someone along the lines of a Mike Leclerc or a Mark Bell.

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You guys are taking this thread too seriously. I mean c'mon Hossa for Druken???

Druken has come and failed in at least 3 cities (Vancouver, Toronto, Carolina, and now back to Toronto, and there could be more that I don't know of)

He's a career AHL'er, a band-aid at best.

He has no value whatsoever, in fact, since the leafs had so many injuries on D lately, i wouldn't be surprised if we offered Traverse and they jumped at it.

This whole thread smacks of Trollism.

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NO WAY, Druken has AHL written all over him...nope
Well the AHLer just got called up to TO again.

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WE have way too many high end top potential prospects to start trading for marginal

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Well the AHLer just got called up to TO again.

plyers now, If anything we've already have guys like Plekanec, Higgins, Perezhogin ready to step in sooner then later, all three will be there next year, so I don't see any reason for us trading very good prospect in Hossa for Marginal NHL'r, we could fill with those kind of players but it would have to be 1998 for that to happen, we have way better talented team to breakup chemistry for AHL'r filler.

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The deal is a non-starter.

Druken is a confirmed bust (at the NHL level) while the younger Hossa still has the time and skill set to make it.

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the only interesting part of this thread was the Dykhuis for Druken trade we apparently turned down never heard of that one????

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Druken a les yeux croches.
On garde Hossa.

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Why hasn't this thread been closed, it's one of the most pointless trade proposals i've ever seen

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The deal is a non-starter.

Druken is a confirmed bust (at the NHL level) while the younger Hossa still has the time and skill set to make it.
Druken is 2 years older than Hossa. I don't see the whole "Hossa has time and skill set to make it" thingy.

I'll say it again. I would not make this trade this season, but to pick up for Druken.... what has Hossa done to warrent the "better player" label?
Are these numbers that bad?

1999-00 Vancouver Canucks NHL 33 7 9 16
2000-01 Vancouver Canucks NHL 55 15 15 30
2001-02 Vancouver Canucks NHL 27 4 4 8
2002-03 Vancouver Canucks NHL 3 1 1 2

Christ, we have 6 or 7 forwards that could only dream of a 15 and 15 season.

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