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02-13-2008, 03:00 AM
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Should Habs be intrested in Steve Bernier?

Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531

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The Sharks have too many forwards and big Steve Bernier, who's been in and out of coach Ron Wilson's doghouse, might be a bargaining chip to get a defenceman at the deadline. Devin Setoguchi can take his spot in the lineup and Ryane Clowe is two or three weeks from returning from a knee injury.
If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.

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02-13-2008, 03:03 AM
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I think he'd look good on the Koivu wing as a big guy who has soft hands and can put the puck in the net....

However I'm not comfortable giving up O'Byrne, and I'm not sure what defenceman we can afford to lose at this point.... If we give up O'Byrne we need a number 4 dman.... So that is a lateral move at best.

Would they want one of our defensive prospects?? I doubt it, i think SJ is looking for immediate help.

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Nah...I don't ''feel'' Bernier.
We need a real impact player for the next 4 years and this player is probably Hossa.
I'm still hoping.
The reason we need a player like Hossa is we dont have any player of his calibre in our prospect even if we have A LOT of good prospect , we don't have any real 100 pts guys.And since it's too late because it's coming soon ( our years as a serious contender ) we need to take one somewhere soon.Also , we shoudn't have a real good draft choice ( top 5 ) in the next 5 years.
We're gonna have a good team for the next 4 years so we need a guy like him.
Sure Lecavalier would be better but that's not in the cards.


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Our D is looking very poor to ordinary without Hamrlik.
We can't afford giving away any Dman unless its Dandenault or Brisebois. I strongly doubt SJ are interested in any of those two.

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Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531



If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.
San Jose would be looking at somebody like Streit. Immediate help...O'Bryne is a #4 d-man now. Bernier has underacheived since turning pro....I would say no thanks

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San Jose would be looking at somebody like Streit. Immediate help...O'Bryne is a #4 d-man now. Bernier has underacheived since turning pro....I would say no thanks
Bernier is a slacker. No thanks.

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Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531



If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.
No you keep O'Byrne. Bernier doesn't seem to have the heart to play night in and out. Only give up a guy like Ryder for him. Or Smolinski even.

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No you keep O'Byrne. Bernier doesn't seem to have the heart to play night in and out. Only give up a guy like Ryder for him. Or Smolinski even.
We should start using Dandenault at D instead of Brisebois and make him look good. Maybe then some teams could think he could help them in the back end despite that contract.

Now, not only Dandenault he's useless for us up front, but he's useless as far as trade bait as well....not that I think that he would have a great value as D anyway.....

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couldn't hurt...

We could use some size and grit on our top 6 as it seems teams try to counter their skill with intimidation. It's not a given however that Bernier could win a full time spot on our top 6. At this point he hasn't proven more than Latendresse (who hasn't yet won a full time spot). But chemistry is a funny thing however and a player in his mold seems ideal and may even provide the right mix.

I like Clowe, who's mentioned in the article a lot as well. We could use one more big aggressive player to counter this strategy and there doesn't appear to be an internal solution ready.

In both cases these players could be tough to acquire since SJ is a front runner in their current make-up.

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02-13-2008, 08:27 AM
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adding Bernier, to Lats and maybe Chip would make our team pretty slow in the new NHL. Clowe would be nice, but SJ are gonna keep him. Rob Davison is probably available and Carbo would love him, a 7th D who can also play LW!

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not for O'Byrne

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Or even better trade Tenderfoot for him. Bernier would be an upgrade. At least he can skate.

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It depends for who cause this year Bernier is having a real though time in the NHL

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Bernier would be a great addition, he's going to be a serious power forward. That said, San Jose would have no use for O'Byrne. They need someone who can contribute right now, and O'Byrne is struggling to keep his head above water.

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Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531



If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.
San Jose wants a skilled offensive guy, they already have a ton of big stay at home guys. Bernier is a poor man's version of Latendresse, same size and skill but less intensity, that's why he's always in the doghouse.

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No you keep O'Byrne. Bernier doesn't seem to have the heart to play night in and out. Only give up a guy like Ryder for him. Or Smolinski even.
I'd gamble a Ryder on Bernier if Tanguay Hossa or Jokinen were not possible.

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02-13-2008, 09:25 AM
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As stated in the article (and no secret anyway) Sharks are looking for defenceman that would be able to step into lineup immediately. Apparently my original impression was errorneus and primary target would be PP QB instead of defensive defenceman. Naturally the names that has been passed around have been Cambell, Kaberle or Redden.

Bernier's play this year has definetly not increased his stock, but potential is still worth something, even after first years in league. Unfortunately I doubt that Dandenault or Bouillon would be sufficient.

How would Streit fit valuewise, trusting in the matter that it is not Souray or Streit that is getting the points, it is Habs PP? Could be horrible trade if Bernier can not fit into top-6 role in NHL, but could also be huge steal if Bernier finds place in Habs lineup.

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Or even better trade Tenderfoot for him. Bernier would be an upgrade. At least he can skate.
Bernier's skating is not better than Latendresse. Their stats are almost identical but Lats is 2 years younger and Lats plays with Lapierre not Thornton or Marleau.

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well Steve Bernier is a good player, hes big, but lets face it Saku is no Joe Thornton. Thornton makes Steve Bernier looks better on ice when he used to play with him last year and early this year. so i dont think he would sky rocket in here montreal. he will end up just like Latendresse at this point but for future would be good as a habs.

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Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531



If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.
O'byrne is the only right hand shot d-man after Komi. Not to mension Breezer

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Whatever this rumour is worth: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...065eef1&k=4531



If there is real substance in the idea, should Habs be intrested? O'Byrne would probably be the starting point for negotiations, since SJ would probably be looking for more defensive defenceman.
Bouillon is a defensive defenceman .

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Bouillon is a defensive defenceman .
Bouillon + a mid-range prospect ??? Bernier's value hasn't been really high for awhile now. This could be doable as we all know the relationship between the Sharks and Habs... the WilsonBros/Gainey connection.

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Ryder for Bernier. We've got nothing to lose and neither do they. And Ryder could be amazing with Thornton.

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Ryder for Bernier. We've got nothing to lose and neither do they. And Ryder could be amazing with Thornton.
Just to raise the ante, and put more chances on our side, Ryder + Da Cube for Bernier.

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San Jose wants a skilled offensive guy, they already have a ton of big stay at home guys. Bernier is a poor man's version of Latendresse, same size and skill but less intensity, that's why he's always in the doghouse.
It would be interesting to see their roles reversed, I wonder how often Latendresse would be scratched in San Jose.

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