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02-13-2008, 04:11 PM
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If Halak is also involved there would have to be a 1st or 2nd rounder coming back.
yeah in your dreams. about the first rounder.

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If Halak is also involved there would have to be a 1st or 2nd rounder coming back.
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2 UFA's?...not happening
Says who? Didn't Corvo and Eaves get traded for 2 UFA's? Contenders deal for rentals...

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Says who? Didn't Corvo and Eaves get traded for 2 UFA's? Contenders deal for rentals...
Difference is Stillman and Commodore are *much* better package than Ryder and Streit for a team that aims for playoff success.

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02-13-2008, 05:21 PM
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Difference is Stillman and Commodore are *much* better package than Ryder and Streit for a team that aims for playoff success.
And Eaves + Corvo are a *much* better package than Bernier + a 3rd or 4th pick. Eaves alone is better than Bernier...(imo)

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yeah...but giving up Josh Gorges is different than giving up Steve Bernier IMO.
Yes, but we're talking about TWO UFAs, not just one, and also there was a 1st pick coming our way, not just Gorges.

By this standard, Bernier for Ryder + Streit would be doable, all depending what SJ is lookin for. They are contenders and are probably willing to make a rental, especially considering that these two players aren't bad (Ryder might do great alongside Thornton) and two of them makes for more chances to sign at least one of them. Might switch Streit for a defensive D, like Bouillon... or maybe they'd want Gorges back...

IMO, it's in the realm of realistic possibility.

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Let's send them Ryder Dandenault Boullion and Halak for a 2nd rounder and Bernier......

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I'm glad you're not GM. Bernier is worth no more than Ryder and maybe throw in Dandenault if they'll take his contract.
Salary dump!

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Bernier: a bit of a redux

yeah i know there's a thread on the subject already

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=477751

but now i see that this is being reported on ckac's site.

Source is...Michel Villeneuve who got it from some "source".

he is a possibility...

http://www.corussports.com/canadiens...13-723892.html

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«Le Canadien doit absolument améliorer sa situation au centre. Tant et aussi longtemps que l'on n'aura pas un bon joueur de centre qui peut alimenter les ailiers, il y aura un sentiment de vide.»
euh ? Isn't he a RW ?

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His agent is Enrico Chiccone. He might be the "source". Not that I think agents are aware of trade talks though.

I'm not a big fan of Bernier. I think he's only a slight upgrade over Latendresse.

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02-13-2008, 10:42 PM
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I like Bernier a lot, but im not sure i would give up a lot for him considering we have Latendresse. If they want Ryder and pick it's fine for me.
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L'analyste des matchs du Canadien à CKAC, Danny Dubé, semble croire à cette possibilité.

«Le Canadien doit absolument améliorer sa situation au centre. Tant et aussi longtemps que l'on n'aura pas un bon joueur de centre qui peut alimenter les ailiers, il y aura un sentiment de vide.»
Bernier is a winger... CKAC

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His agent is Enrico Chiccone. He might be the "source". Not that I think agents are aware of trade talks though.

I'm not a big fan of Bernier. I think he's only a slight upgrade over Latendresse.
I don't think he is an upgrade if you consider that...

-Lats is younger
-the amount of ice time both have had
-who they usually play with

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I like Bernier a lot, but im not sure i would give up a lot for him considering we have Latendresse. If they want Ryder and pick it's fine for me.


Bernier is a winger... CKAC
Ya it made me lol.

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His agent is Enrico Chiccone. He might be the "source". Not that I think agents are aware of trade talks though.
Of course they are. They are contacted about extensions, contract status and the future plans of the player when it comes to free agency

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Bernier is a good player. I think he's overall better than Latendresse. Less skilled, but more confidence.

But he's slow. It would depend what we give for him.

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I thought about it some more and I think Bernier would be a great aquisition, despite his weaknesses. He's another Latendresse with less offensive upside but 10x tougher. I was watching some of his fights and the kid is pretty tough and isn't afraid to scrap it up.

It depends what we give for him though.

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02-14-2008, 10:57 AM
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I thought about it some more and I think Bernier would be a great aquisition, despite his weaknesses. He's another Latendresse with less offensive upside but 10x tougher. I was watching some of his fights and the kid is pretty tough and isn't afraid to scrap it up.

It depends what we give for him though.
Man...I wanted the Habs to draft Bernier in 03'.

Though i'm quite happy we drafted AK46, i've always wanted to see Bernier in a Habs jersey. If San Jose is stupid enough to give up on him already, i'd love for Gainey to go out and get him. I just don't think the Habs and Sharks make good trading partners. What they want, we don't have or can't afford to give up

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Man...I wanted the Habs to draft Bernier in 03'.

Though i'm quite happy we drafted AK46, i've always wanted to see Bernier in a Habs jersey. If San Jose is stupid enough to give up on him already, i'd love for Gainey to go out and get him. I just don't think the Habs and Sharks make good trading partners. What they want, we don't have or can't afford to give up

Because you're expecting the Sharks to demand much of the Habs, which might not be the case. They want a defensive Dman, and some attack. They might not end-up having a big time defensive dman (which few of them are available and one of the biggest who is refused to go there) and in this case might want to lower their demands as to the type of dman they want (which was not to trade Bernier for a guy like Redden, but rather Marleau). They are also looking to add a bit of offense, so as I said before, paying Bernier for TWO rentals might be worth it in their minds.

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Bernier would be perfect to play with Lapierre and Latendresse

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Bernier would be perfect to play with Lapierre and Latendresse
I disagree. That would be one of the most horrible disasters on ice to witness.

Bernier would look good at Koivu's RW. Someone who can work the corners and use his body to create space...And he plays with a real powerforward mentality.

The only problem is he's not that good a skater, and he seems almost lazy at times, like he has no endurence or something. But he's only 22, that can change.

Another guy I'd love to get, along the same lines, is Andrew Ladd. But he's more of a checking line player who can fill in with injuries.

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Because you're expecting the Sharks to demand much of the Habs, which might not be the case. They want a defensive Dman, and some attack. They might not end-up having a big time defensive dman (which few of them are available and one of the biggest who is refused to go there) and in this case might want to lower their demands as to the type of dman they want (which was not to trade Bernier for a guy like Redden, but rather Marleau). They are also looking to add a bit of offense, so as I said before, paying Bernier for TWO rentals might be worth it in their minds.
Would the Habs give up Latendresse for two rentals?

I would hope not, and knowing Gainey, I know he wouldn't. That makes me think Doug Wilson wouldn't either.

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I disagree. That would be one of the most horrible disasters on ice to witness.

Bernier would look good at Koivu's RW. Someone who can work the corners and use his body to create space...And he plays with a real powerforward mentality.

The only problem is he's not that good a skater, and he seems almost lazy at times, like he has no endurence or something. But he's only 22, that can change.

Another guy I'd love to get, along the same lines, is Andrew Ladd. But he's more of a checking line player who can fill in with injuries.
Agreed...another guy i'd like the Habs to target if they are indeed talking to San Jose, is Joe Pavelski.

I know some here don't like his size (5'11-6' 195lbs) but he's got very good hands and I like his scoring upside.

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I disagree. That would be one of the most horrible disasters on ice to witness.

Bernier would look good at Koivu's RW. Someone who can work the corners and use his body to create space...And he plays with a real powerforward mentality.

The only problem is he's not that good a skater, and he seems almost lazy at times, like he has no endurence or something. But he's only 22, that can change.

Another guy I'd love to get, along the same lines, is Andrew Ladd. But he's more of a checking line player who can fill in with injuries.
He's not a bad skater. He's significantly better than Latendresse.

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He's not a bad skater. He's significantly better than Latendresse.
He's got a better stride than Latendresse, but Bernier's endurance is even worse than Latendresse.

Though Latendresse has really improved on his fitness level this year, doesn't seem as tired after his shifs nowadays.

if Gainey could somehow manage to get Bernier and Latendresse on the same team, it would bode VERY WELL for the future.

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Agreed...another guy i'd like the Habs to target if they are indeed talking to San Jose, is Joe Pavelski.

I know some here don't like his size (5'11-6' 195lbs) but he's got very good hands and I like his scoring upside.
I don't think the Sharks would give him up. He's got the potential to be a 30-35 goal scorer.

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