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02-14-2008, 10:38 AM
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It is just amazing to me how much the All Star break killed our team. It is unreal how poorly the boys have played since then. It's almost like they thought they had done enough this season, and folded up shop. I truly believe that this team would still be competing at a decent level to this day if the break hadn't occurred.

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It is just amazing to me how much the All Star break killed our team. It is unreal how poorly the boys have played since then. It's almost like they thought they had done enough this season, and folded up shop. I truly believe that this team would still be competing at a decent level to this day if the break hadn't occurred.
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Agree Kallio. I picked for a ninth place finish at best at the beginning of the season, but I was thinking we were going to see a situation where they were floating around 12-11 or 10th place all season and turned it on after the trade deadline.

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Since we're referencing football coach rants, the one I find to be most appropriate is Denny Green's classic "they were who we thought they were" (forgive me, I'm not tech savvy enough to link to the You Tube clip).



I still have no idea what Green's point was with this rant.

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Speaking of free passes...the old regime use to get torn up for not taking responsibility, Hitch isnt getting a free pass on this one from me. The team flat out was not ready to play....last time I checked, it was the coaches job to get the team ready to play....that didnt happen. Dont get me wrong, the players sucked big time, but so did Hitch in not getting the team ready to play.
Nut, you're putting yourself out there on this one... But I admire that. Ballsy. I would say to people that say that Hitch has no responsiblity for this loss: "if thats the case, then Hitch has been tuned out by the players, already."

Dangerous ground, very scary possiblity, if the players are tuning him and the coaches out already, the next coach isn't going to be so forgiving.

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I still have no idea what Green's point was with this rant.
The Cards were up by twenty in the 4th... They had baited Rex Grossman into throwing several interceptions and had exploited holes in the bears defense all night...then, they stop playing... Basically, the Bears were who Green and his coaches thought they were and that they could be exploited with a great game plan, then, just when it looked like it was over, the Cards took their foots off the gas and the Bears took over.

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Nut, you're putting yourself out there on this one... But I admire that. Ballsy. I would say to people that say that Hitch has no responsiblity for this loss: "if thats the case, then Hitch has been tuned out by the players, already."

Dangerous ground, very scary possiblity, if the players are tuning him and the coaches out already, the next coach isn't going to be so forgiving.
I know the saying has always been, "you can't fire the players, so you fire the coach." In this instance, I say "fire the players" - as many as humanly possible. I think Hitch has a solid scheme that can work to perfection with the right players. We just don't have enough of those. Hitch has experienced winning more than the vast majority of the guys on this team. I'll take his pedigree any day.

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I know the saying has always been, "you can't fire the players, so you fire the coach." In this instance, I say "fire the players" - as many as humanly possible. I think Hitch has a solid scheme that can work to perfection with the right players. We just don't have enough of those. Hitch has experienced winning more than the vast majority of the guys on this team. I'll take his pedigree any day.
I agree...Gerard Gallant was not ready to be an NHL coach...Nobody on this team is greater then Hitch.

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I know the saying has always been, "you can't fire the players, so you fire the coach." In this instance, I say "fire the players" - as many as humanly possible. I think Hitch has a solid scheme that can work to perfection with the right players. We just don't have enough of those. Hitch has experienced winning more than the vast majority of the guys on this team. I'll take his pedigree any day.
Is it possible that Hitch has tuned the PLAYERS out?
I mean, do he and Howson have an understanding that the team to get upset with is NOT this team....and they are just waiting-out some contracts, waiting for the maturation of certain players, and waiting for Howson's first FULL UFA season?

...I could convince myself of this, especially today. Yes I could.

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Is it possible that Hitch has tuned the PLAYERS out?
I mean, do he and Howson have an understanding that the team to get upset with is NOT this team....and they are just waiting-out some contracts, waiting for the maturation of certain players, and waiting for Howson's first FULL UFA season?

...I could convince myself of this, especially today. Yes I could.
Possibly - I get this feeling during most of Hitch's post-game pressers when he just looks defeated and all BUT says "I've squeezed everything I can outta this motley crew."

Can't wait for new, HITCH-approved, players.

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Is it possible that Hitch has tuned the PLAYERS out?
I mean, do he and Howson have an understanding that the team to get upset with is NOT this team....and they are just waiting-out some contracts, waiting for the maturation of certain players, and waiting for Howson's first FULL UFA season?

...I could convince myself of this, especially today. Yes I could.
JACKETfan...You totally blew my mind.

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Speaking of free passes...the old regime use to get torn up for not taking responsibility, Hitch isnt getting a free pass on this one from me. The team flat out was not ready to play....last time I checked, it was the coaches job to get the team ready to play....that didnt happen. Dont get me wrong, the players sucked big time, but so did Hitch in not getting the team ready to play.
As I stated last night:



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Im starting to think Hitch has squeezed all he is going to get out of this turd. And now its just a turd.

My thanks goes out to Douglas MacLean once again. Thanks for 7 years of utter mismanagement.

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As I stated last night:
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I still have no idea what Green's point was with this rant.
I knew someone would come through.

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Is it possible that Hitch has tuned the PLAYERS out?
I mean, do he and Howson have an understanding that the team to get upset with is NOT this team....and they are just waiting-out some contracts, waiting for the maturation of certain players, and waiting for Howson's first FULL UFA season?

...I could convince myself of this, especially today. Yes I could.
it sure as hell looks that way!

and i for one would be willing to get rid of all

the dead weight! i would be totally content with a team of youngsters that hustled

every shift for a couple of years knowing were going in the right direction.

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It is just amazing to me how much the All Star break killed our team. It is unreal how poorly the boys have played since then. It's almost like they thought they had done enough this season, and folded up shop. I truly believe that this team would still be competing at a decent level to this day if the break hadn't occurred.
This team hasnt been the same since Shelley was traded. They traded away the soul of the team.

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02-14-2008, 11:32 AM
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This team hasnt been the same since Shelley was traded. They traded away the soul of the team.
I wouldn't go that far, but I will say that I don't think Howson truly understood the importance of Jody to both the team and the community.

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We can't keep dwelling on Jody. Its unhealthy, just like its unhealthy to keep dwelling on the fact that we haven't had a decent PP QB since Ray Whitney. (Although Tarnstrom may turn out ok)

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I assumed I would get on here to hear the sky is falling, but I'm continually amazed at how people have repeatedly said NOW the playoffs are out of question (for the last 2 weeks). I think it's remarkable that we've lost 8 of 9 and are still a winning streak away from being a contender.

The trade deadline is still 5 games away. There is no point in throwing in the towel until then. If I'm a betting man, I'm saying the Jackets aren't making the playoffs but I'd imagine I could pull some great odds at this point to bet on them.

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Unfortunately we got caught up in the ride there for a little bit but if at the beginning of the year everyone was told that we would be in it and playing meaningful games into the end of February, everyone here would have gladly took that after being out of it in November each year. We have made progress and we will make progress next year as well. it's just too bad but with a strong finish we will have had our best year of the franchise and that's the only way to look at it as a whole or else just find a different team. i grew up a Wings fan in the 80's so i know about sucking for years and years on end and it doesn't happen overnight.

The biggest problem with Columbus sports fans is that they have a win or nothing attitude from the college football mentality. If the Buckeyes lose one game the season is over so that attitude is carried over into the Blue Jackets and we take each loss very badly and are devastated by failure.

Things will turn, there were some major mistakes made in the early years, i.e. Klesla, but things will get better and I believe in the management and coaches we have and they will turn this into a winner at some point, sooner than later hopefully.

i have a bigger problem with individuals on the ice not giving it 100%, i want them gone.

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The biggest problem with Columbus sports fans is that they have a win or nothing attitude from the college football mentality. If the Buckeyes lose one game the season is over so that attitude is carried over into the Blue Jackets and we take each loss very badly and are devastated by failure.
Not really. There are plenty of posters on this board who care nothing about OSU football, but who still despise the failure, lack of effort, lack of intensity, lack of focus, etc. that we have experienced with this team the past couple of weeks.

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Dont get me wrong, im not putting it all on Hitch, most of it is just the lack of talent, but last night they were not ready to play....and that is the coaches job, to get them ready for the game, so he does share some of the blame for that pile of turd that was on the ice last night. Im still glad Hitch is here, just saying that there is more to his job then just a system...motivation is a big responsibility of the coach and there was ZERO motivation last night. And if it is a scenario that he's gotten the most out of these guys he can....DH better be VERY busy this offseason buying out contracts and getting "hitch guys" on the team.

Also first order of business for DH is get rid of that stupid intro song Machinehead.....ever notice that we're always reverting back to the same problems as in the past?? Look no further then Machinehead lol Use the war drum beat they use right when they come out of the locker room, I like that so much better then that stupid 90's Bush song!!

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I thought they would keep it interesting until the trade deadline and they did. Expectation met.

Next target-- 83 points. If they go .500 the rest of the way...84 points.

Don't get me wrong--- I hate being right on this one.

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Not really. There are plenty of posters on this board who care nothing about OSU football, but who still despise the failure, lack of effort, lack of intensity, lack of focus, etc. that we have experienced with this team the past couple of YEARS.
Fixed it for ya DJ

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