HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Koivu or Kovalev, Who do we build around

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-20-2008, 12:37 AM
  #1
Koivu84*
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,917
vCash: 500
Koivu or Kovalev, Who do we build around

Kovalev, elite talent 40 goal scorer
Koivu, heart and soul of the team and dynamic playmaking master

Who should we build the team around in the off-season

Koivu84* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:38 AM
  #2
type_v
Registered User
 
type_v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
Country: Peru
Posts: 389
vCash: 500
both

type_v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:41 AM
  #3
le_sean
Registered User
 
le_sean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa
Country: Vatican City State
Posts: 15,786
vCash: 612
Carey Price.

Why build around two 32+ year old UFAs to be?

le_sean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:42 AM
  #4
Stephen Locke*
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Offline
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,023
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koivu84 View Post
Kovalev, elite talent 40 goal scorer
Koivu, heart and soul of the team and dynamic playmaking master

Who should we build the team around in the off-season
OT:You're not a Habs fan.Stop gimmicking,I know you are a Leafs fan judging by your posting history.Remember all these Lecavalier/Jagr/Lemieux vs Koivu polls this summer?That was enough to show that you aren't one.

Preferably,I'd say we maintain both for a couple of years.They're both extremely vital assets for a eventual Cup Run.Personally,I'd like Koivu to officially retire and finish his career with the organization.


Last edited by Stephen Locke*: 02-20-2008 at 12:52 AM.
Stephen Locke* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:47 AM
  #5
Stradale
Registered User
 
Stradale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,000
vCash: 500
Both

Stradale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:48 AM
  #6
L'Aveuglette
Registered User
 
L'Aveuglette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,437
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by le_sean View Post
Carey Price.

Why build around two 32+ year old UFAs to be?
'zactly.

Now, I'm a Sens fan first but I follow the Habs and I would hope Gainey manages to find a star player such as a Jokinen or Hossa to whom he can offer a nice, long-term contract and build around that. Kovalev and Koivu would then add nice veteran leadership and the "youth" can be allowed to bloom properly without too much pressure.

That's my point of view, take it for what it is.

L'Aveuglette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 12:52 AM
  #7
CareyPrice x 31
Registered User
 
CareyPrice x 31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,878
vCash: 3907
tout les deux + Price + Markov + Komisarek + Plekanec + A and S Kostitsyn + Higgins

CareyPrice x 31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 01:29 AM
  #8
WeThreeKings
DJ Nikita
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 41,534
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to WeThreeKings
Brisebois.

WeThreeKings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 01:42 AM
  #9
Nielson81
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,220
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to Nielson81
Well you don't build this team around either....you use both of them on your top two lines but you build the team around Price - Komi - Markov

As for your summar of Kovalev, elite 40 goal scorer....while he is an elite talent, but he's only scored 40 once in his career and that was 5+ years ago.

Nielson81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 01:55 AM
  #10
deanosaur
Registered User
 
deanosaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: AB/MB
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,090
vCash: 500
niether
why would you build your team around two guys 30+?
a SMART GM would build it from the goalie and up. start with price, then the young guys up front, ryder, chipchura, kostiystin both of them.

deanosaur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 01:59 AM
  #11
tinyzombies
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: LA via Montreal
Posts: 11,959
vCash: 500
I think Price, Markov, Komisarek is the logical place to start building. But we have a well-rounded, two-way team, so it's not like we're going to have a core group and then a bunch of scrubs. It's going to be a balance looks like, unless we can pick up a stud to add to that group. Not easy to do. Will probably have to be a UFA.

tinyzombies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 02:55 AM
  #12
1UP
Registered User
 
1UP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Québec
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,068
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeThreeKings View Post
Brisebois.
Good idea. That way, he can't get out.


1UP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:27 AM
  #13
Iwishihadacup
Registered User
 
Iwishihadacup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Quebec City
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,727
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeThreeKings View Post
Brisebois.
you forgot the

but the truth is, smolinski look like a very good building material... he seems like he have some concrete skates

Iwishihadacup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:28 AM
  #14
Tuggy
Registered User
 
Tuggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Saint John
Country: Canada
Posts: 30,961
vCash: 1484
You don't build your team around 30+ year old players.

Tuggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:35 AM
  #15
SOLR
Registered User
 
SOLR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto / North York
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,016
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nielson81 View Post
Well you don't build this team around either....you use both of them on your top two lines but you build the team around Price - Komi - Markov

As for your summar of Kovalev, elite 40 goal scorer....while he is an elite talent, but he's only scored 40 once in his career and that was 5+ years ago.
Your right, but surprisingly, hes on that pace currently.

SOLR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:43 AM
  #16
TCIH
Registered User
 
TCIH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,399
vCash: 883
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOLR View Post
Your right, but surprisingly, hes on that pace currently.
And I don't doubt that he can/will reach that total, possibly a bit less or more depending on how clutch he can stay.

But you need to remember that this Kovalev is a much different version than what we saw last year. Can he keep this up, leading into next year? A disappointing season leading into an extraordinary one is fairly confusing, especially when dealing with an enigma such as Kovalev. You don't really know what you're going to get until the time comes.

This year, he came to play. I'd imagine he will continue to play solidly next year as well (barring injury or off-ice distraction), but who knows?

TCIH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:43 AM
  #17
King Woodballs
**** HFJets
 
King Woodballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Your Mind
Posts: 34,166
vCash: 375
Neither both are past the expiration date

King Woodballs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 06:59 AM
  #18
BadHabit
Registered User
 
BadHabit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,593
vCash: 500
The answer is simple... both. The reason being, all NHL teams have a very small window in this day of the cap to win the Stanley Cup. In order to win the cup, you need players like Kovalev and Koivu - veterans that can lead the team and get them going. To become a contender in the next year or so, we will need these guys. Then the transition will be made to our younger talent AFTER that, and we will go through a rebuilding phase where we will build around players like Price, Plekanec and Komisarek.

If we want to win the cup next year on the Canadiens 100th anniversary, the only chance we have is that Kovalev and Koivu are firing on all cylinders and our young talent steps up. You cannot get rid of these players and expect Higgins to lead us to a cup.... yet. There is a revolving cast, and Kovalev/Koivu are the main actors right now.

BadHabit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 07:54 AM
  #19
Marksman
Registered User
 
Marksman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Country: Finland
Posts: 3,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by madness1980 View Post
Neither both are past the expiration date
Hfboards.

33-34 years is not much these days ... both of these guys could play another 5 years, if you're look who else is around. Some of the best teams are built (Wings, Stars, Canes) around veterans...

Marksman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 08:16 AM
  #20
Kaptain Bégin
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Québec, Quebec
Posts: 625
vCash: 500
The team will be build around our young players, not these 2 old and finished players.

We keep both because you need good veterans on a young team. Kovy become a real good veteran this year and Koivu always been a hard-working player. Plus, I don't think Koivu will be trade if he don't ask too. You don't give NTC to guys you want to trade. It's a commitment and I think Bob will respect that.

So we build around Price, Komi, Markov, both Kostitsyn, Plekanec and we keep some good veteran like Koivu, Kovalev, Hamrlik and Huet to help these guys.

Kaptain Bégin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 08:21 AM
  #21
mcphee
Registered User
 
mcphee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,105
vCash: 500
I think that children are our future.

mcphee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 08:25 AM
  #22
Artie
Registered User
 
Artie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Montreal, Que
Country: Italy
Posts: 4,101
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee View Post
I think that children are our future.
They can also be our demise

Artie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 08:52 AM
  #23
mcphee
Registered User
 
mcphee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,105
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artie View Post
They can also be our demise
Always hated that stupid song.

mcphee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 08:53 AM
  #24
Gros Bill
Registered User
 
Gros Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Country: Rwanda
Posts: 5,903
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nielson81 View Post
Well you don't build this team around either....you use both of them on your top two lines but you build the team around Price - Komi - Markov
...
THat's my POV also.

Gros Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-20-2008, 09:15 AM
  #25
AK27fan
 
AK27fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 24
vCash: 500
I say Kovy. He already takes Markov, the Kosty's and even Latendresse under his wing..

AK27fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:47 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.