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02-20-2008, 10:21 AM
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2/20/08 Daily News Article Getting on my Nerves

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"I give the Montreal fans a ton of credit," Rangers coach Tom Renney said. "They did what you're supposed to do."
Even if he's not taking a shot at NYR fans, seems like he'd rather lean on changing momentum through fans than actually ****ing coaching.

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"We stopped playing," Shanahan said. "We're guilty of that. And we learned a valuable lesson that really we haven't dealt with too often this year - we've been a very good third-period team and a very good team with the lead.

"But tonight we sat back and stopped playing. We allowed their good players to have the puck too much. We allowed them to get running starts coming into our end. And we allowed their fans to get back into it.

"We had total control of this game."
Too much "we."

What it should read from Shanny's mouth is, "I stopped playing a year ago. Because I only glide around the ice and take maintenance strides, I was a good part in letting them get running starts coming into our end."

Shanahan needs to shut the hell up, because he certainly can't do anything on the ice. It's insulting

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...ntreal_ca.html

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Even if he's not taking a shot at NYR fans, seems like he'd rather lean on changing momentum through fans than actually ****ing coaching.



Too much "we."

What it should read from Shanny's mouth is, "I stopped playing a year ago. Because I only glide around the ice and take maintenance strides, I was a good part in letting them get running starts coming into our end."

Shanahan needs to shut the hell up, because he certainly can't do anything on the ice. It's insulting

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...ntreal_ca.html
Oh come on. The Habs started hitting, the fans got into it and the Rangers never responded.

I love the fact that Shanny scores two goals and he's the whipping boy.

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Oh come on. The Habs started hitting, the fans got into it and the Rangers never responded.

I love the fact that Shanny scores two goals and he's the whipping boy.
Bold for emphasis. This was the real difference. They beat us by playing the game we were supposed to beat them with. Let the papers make the Rangers feel shame for a couple of days. Tape the stories up in the room.

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You're analyzing dejected post-game comments as if you were trying to decipher Joyce's Ulysses.

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why should shanahan be saying I?
its a team game, the team played like crap, and shanahan is part of that team, so therefore, it is appropriate to use the word we

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You're analyzing dejected post-game comments as if you were trying to decipher Joyce's Ulysses.
brilliant..

plus Shanny had 2 goals.. if anything he should be saying "they" about the other players

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Too much "we."
What other pronoun would you use to describe a TEAM, or did you want Shanny to do everything?

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Renney -

Even if he's not taking a shot at NYR fans, seems like he'd rather lean on changing momentum through fans than actually ****ing coaching.

Too much "we."

What it should read from Shanny's mouth is, "I stopped playing a year ago. Because I only glide around the ice and take maintenance strides, I was a good part in letting them get running starts coming into our end."

Shanahan needs to shut the hell up, because he certainly can't do anything on the ice. It's insulting

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...ntreal_ca.html
In the big picture I agree with you.

Shanahan can be extremely good late in games. And he can still shoot. He got the mental aspects to comethrough when most other guys on this team melts down.

But where da heck is the effort inbetween??? Its like he got a bomb on him that would explode if he went into the corners on some shifts. Dawes is 5'7, Shanny is 6'2 -- why does Nigel have to take every physical battle on that line?

Dawes-Gomez-Shanny haven't won any momentum for us in 4 games now -- they got a be broken up. Its too bad when the 1, 3 and 4th line plays well.

Its really hard to point out what should be done at this point.

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Oh come on. The Habs started hitting, the fans got into it and the Rangers never responded.

I love the fact that Shanny scores two goals and he's the whipping boy.
I understand now that Renney was probably asked about how the crowd's intensity affected the game, and I can see how that response is fine.

My problems with Shanahan don't stem from this loss. I've mentioned, irrational or not, that I think he's washed up. The Dawes-Gomez-Shanahan line has frequently looked like our worst line.

With regards to last night, Shanahan scored two power play goals, basically from a standstill, when the Canadians were at the height of their unraveling.

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IMy problems with Shanahan don't stem from this loss. I've mentioned, irrational or not, that I think he's washed up. The Dawes-Gomez-Shanahan line has frequently looked like our worst line.

With regards to last night, Shanahan scored two power play goals, basically from a standstill, when the Canadians were at the height of their unraveling.
If Shanahan is washed up but scored two goals, what is Jagr and Straka? I really can't believe that you are complaining the way he's scoring goals. The bottom line is he is scoring. And not a lot of guys on this team can say that.

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I think if you're letting the platitude BS of players and coaches after an embarrassing loss like last night's rile you up this much, you might want to step back, take a breath, and maybe go pet a puppy or something. I learned a LONG time ago not to read the beat reporters after a loss like this, because they offer no answers.

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How can you possibly pick on SHANNY after that game? wow

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Ultimately the LEADERSHIP on the team has to make that "lesson" sink in to the team character for the future.

The Rangers not only stopped playing, they were already back in NY while the game was still on.....

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How can you possibly pick on SHANNY after that game? wow
Its justified to a certain extent. He's a leader in the room.

Last nights breakdown was one of effort, hustle, physicality and will.

*** did they say or NOT say in the room between periods 2-3

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What better leadership then score two goals in the game?

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What better leadership then score two goals in the game?
Does that make Michael Ryder a leader for the Habs?

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Shanahan needs to shut the hell up, because he certainly can't do anything on the ice. It's insulting
over here on the island we wish we had someone who knew how to score 20 goals...

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What it should read from Shanny's mouth is, "I stopped playing a year ago. Because I only glide around the ice and take maintenance strides, I was a good part in letting them get running starts coming into our end."

Shanahan needs to shut the hell up, because he certainly can't do anything on the ice. It's insulting

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...ntreal_ca.html
except score two in one game, and what is 4or 5 in the 4 games since hes been healthy.

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LOL at this thread and Manhattan Blue

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You know, as bad as this loss was (and in my 15 years of watching hockey, it may be the worst one), I'm really not sweating it. This is the kind of adversity teams need to experience in order to learn how to overcome it in the future. You can bet this is GREAT learning experience for our young guys, and these are the games that advance their development FAR more than any easy wins.

So, think big picture. We've a good young team that will only improve from here once we shed some of the dead weight.

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Its justified to a certain extent. He's a leader in the room.

Last nights breakdown was one of effort, hustle, physicality and will.

*** did they say or NOT say in the room between periods 2-3
That's what I mean.

Mr. Shanny "The Motivator" and his intangibles showed up in the papers after the game. Where was his 20 years of experience and knowledge during the game?

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Manhattan you sound ridiculous. This was a terrible loss. This team has problems. Is this anything we didn't know? Seriously, anyone? That crowd, whether arrogant holier than thou New York fans liked them or not, played a huge role in this game turning around. You're obviously not that intelligent if you can't pick up on that. You're one of the many people on this board I wish couldn't enjoy it if this team makes a deep run into the postseason.

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except score two in one game, and what is 4or 5 in the 4 games since hes been healthy.
I don't know if anyone told you, but apparently goalscoring wasn't the problem last night.

With guys like Dubinsky, Avery, Callahan, and Drury stepping up recently they are making his goals less important. And his overall worth.

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Manhattan you sound ridiculous. This was a terrible loss. This team has problems. Is this anything we didn't know? Seriously, anyone? That crowd, whether arrogant holier than thou New York fans liked them or not, played a huge role in this game turning around. You're obviously not that intelligent if you can't pick up on that. You're one of the many people on this board I wish couldn't enjoy it if this team makes a deep run into the postseason.
And I'm saying Brendan Shanahan is one of them. You don't like it? Get over it.

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You know, as bad as this loss was (and in my 15 years of watching hockey, it may be the worst one), I'm really not sweating it. This is the kind of adversity teams need to experience in order to learn how to overcome it in the future. You can bet this is GREAT learning experience for our young guys, and these are the games that advance their development FAR more than any easy wins.

So, think big picture. We've a good young team that will only improve from here once we shed some of the dead weight.
Thats how im looking at this too.

And Shanahan should be saying "WE", because the last i checked it was a TEAM.

What is he supposed to say? I think everyone said the right things after the game. If the players, coaches and GMs reacted like some of the people on this board, the team would have given up 2 months ago, and would have a shabby traded in roster with no chemistry and some outsider as a coach. In fact, after listening to some of the players talking i felt much better considering how devastatingly horrible the loss was.

The Rangers are in 6th place and have taken 8 out of the last possible 10 points.

Take the point, go practice take the 3 days to rest and prepare and go back to work on Saturday.

Every game is huge here on out so this will be forgotten by next week anyway.

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