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02-25-2008, 10:32 AM
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RE: Schremp. Im not interested, and id be willing to wager money the Rangers arent either. There was an interview with Gordie Clark a while back where he said the 2 things the Rangers must have with all their kids are character and skating ability. Schremp clearly doesnt have the character to be a ranger.

Staal? Unless were talking Ovechkin or Crosby im not interested in talking about him.
Well, you're wrong about the Rangers not having interest, and you're wrong about Schremp's so-called "character" issues. He's a good kid who's stuck in a numbers game in Edmonton. He was asked to work on some things in the AHL, and by all accounts he's doing just that. He's about a PPG last time I checked. His skating isn't great, but IMO it won't hold him back at the next level either. If the Rangers could get him for Bourret (which is the rumored offer), it would be a coup.


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Well, you're wrong about the Rangers not having interest, and you're wrong about Schremp's so-called "character" issues. He's a good kid who's stuck in a numbers game in Edmonton. He was asked to work on some things in the AHL, and by all accounts he's doing just that. He's a bout a PPG last time I checked. His skating isn't great, but IMO it won;t hold him back at the next level either. If the Rangers could get him for Bourret (which is the rumored offer), it would be a coup.
Agreed. I'd take a chance on Schremp if the price is right.

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02-25-2008, 11:47 AM
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I would take Schremp in a minute for a reasonable price.

As far as Staal goes, hes not going anywhere. For anything.

If it you want Schremp to be apart of the deal,

Schremp + your first this year would be a start.

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02-25-2008, 11:50 AM
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I would take Schremp in a minute for a reasonable price.

As far as Staal goes, hes not going anywhere. For anything.

If it you want Schremp to be apart of the deal,

Schremp + your first this year would be a start.
They don't have their first.It belongs to Anaheim

Edmonton has Anaheim's #1 from the Pronger deal.

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Schremp for Montoya.

Come on people

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They don't have their first.It belongs to Anaheim

Edmonton has Anaheim's #1 from the Pronger deal.
I forgot about that....

Then I really have NO clue as to a starting point.

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02-25-2008, 11:58 AM
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I forgot about that....

Then I really have NO clue as to a starting point.
They really don't have the resources to pull Staal from us.

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02-25-2008, 01:08 PM
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Schremp for Montoya.

Come on people
Funny because Montoya would be behind Jeff Deslauriers and possibly Devan Dubnyk on the depth chart?

Al Montoya 23 years old, 6th overall pick
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Jeff Deslauriers 23 years old, 31st overall pick
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Devan Dubnyk 21 years old, 14th overall pick
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What is so great about Montoya besides getting drafted in the top 10?

Montoya has little to no value to Edmonton.

Prucha has been on the decline the last 2 seasons and is another small forward.

Alex Bourret, Lauri Korpikoski and Hugh Jessiman are all bottom 6 prospects.

If Edmonton trades Schremp it will be to fill a need and the NYR don't have anything that can fill a need unless you want to deal roster players or a prospect like Cherry.

A better bet for Edmonton is to let Schremp play in the AHL for a few more seasons and hope for the best. They're not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

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02-25-2008, 01:13 PM
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They really don't have the resources to pull Staal from us.
Nor is he a player that Edmonton would have interest in. Great player with nice potential but Edmonton is currently breaking in too many young defensemen as it is. They also have Chorney (1 year away) and Petry (2-3 years away) knocking on the door with wildcards in Alex Plante, Theo Peckham and Cody Wild.

Young defensemen is the Edmonton Oilers organizational position of strength and it wouldn't make any sense to deal an arm and leg to aquire another young defensemen.

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Oilers fans...

Just keep Schremp. We're fine, we don't need him.

And stop asking for Staal. You don't have a single asset to actually get him.

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Just keep Schremp. We're fine, we don't need him.

And stop asking for Staal. You don't have a single asset to actually get him.
Sounds good to me.

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Just keep Schremp. We're fine, we don't need him.

And stop asking for Staal. You don't have a single asset to actually get him.
We'll gladly keep Schremp.

And I take it your saying you won't do this deal:
Gagner + Pitkanen
for Staal
I'm just curious as to how high you refer to Staal.

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We'll gladly keep Schremp.

And I take it your saying you won't do this deal:
Gagner + Pitkanen
for Staal
I'm just curious as to how high you refer to Staal.
Staal is too good. He's pretty much the cornerstone of the defensive corps for the Rangers He's a solid defenseman already in his first year in the NHL. He has too many great qualities. So much promise. I'd rather have him than Gagner.

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Staal is too good. He's pretty much the cornerstone of the defensive corps for the Rangers He's a solid defenseman already in his first year in the NHL. He has too many great qualities. So much promise. I'd rather have him than Gagner.
Fair enough. But what about Pitkanen as an add on? The numbers havven't come this year, but boy has he been solid. Probably our best Dman for the year, which really isn't saying a lot, but still.

Even if you don't get him signed to a contract you would be getting something like 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3d, which as our offersheet to the ducks showed this year, can be very good depending on the team.

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Staal is too good. He's pretty much the cornerstone of the defensive corps for the Rangers He's a solid defenseman already in his first year in the NHL. He has too many great qualities. So much promise. I'd rather have him than Gagner.
Who do Rangers fans compare him too?

I think he would end up a 1A type of defesnemen in the Mattias Ohlund mold but it seems like Ranger fans feel he has more upside and is a future Norris winner.

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Funny because Montoya would be behind Jeff Deslauriers and possibly Devan Dubnyk on the depth chart?

Al Montoya 23 years old, 6th overall pick
2.54 GA 0.908 SV%

Jeff Deslauriers 23 years old, 31st overall pick
2.78 GA 0.913 SV%

Devan Dubnyk 21 years old, 14th overall pick
2.96 GA 0.906 SV%

What is so great about Montoya besides getting drafted in the top 10?

Montoya has little to no value to Edmonton.

Prucha has been on the decline the last 2 seasons and is another small forward.

Alex Bourret, Lauri Korpikoski and Hugh Jessiman are all bottom 6 prospects.

If Edmonton trades Schremp it will be to fill a need and the NYR don't have anything that can fill a need unless you want to deal roster players or a prospect like Cherry.

A better bet for Edmonton is to let Schremp play in the AHL for a few more seasons and hope for the best. They're not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

Cheers.
If you think those two players are better than Montoya,then that's your issue.

You are overrating your guy.

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02-25-2008, 02:22 PM
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If you think those two players are better than Montoya,then that's your issue.

You are overrating your guy.
Maybe.

Get back to me though when you can tell me what's so great about him besides being a 10 ten pick.

Has undrafted Miika Wiikman stole the #1 job from Montoya yet?

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Who do Rangers fans compare him too?

I think he would end up a 1A type of defesnemen in the Mattias Ohlund mold but it seems like Ranger fans feel he has more upside and is a future Norris winner.
For me its tough to compare him to someone right now. He's got such great size and defensive ability. He's way ahead of his age as far as maturity goes. He is genuinely smart with the puck and has great vision on the ice. The thing is, I believe the offense is gonna come at some point. He put up great numbers in the OHL with Sudbury and he shows glimpses of that offensive ability with some rushes he makes up the ice and when he joins the rush. I just think since its his first year he has wanted all year to make sure that he plays a sound game and you could see he doesnt wanna take too many chances and get caught up ice. Until saturday in buffalo where he turned the puck over resulting in a goal, he hadnt made a mistake like that all year from what I can remember. He's just so big back there, he gets physical and he stood up for Mara when he got laid out by Kaleta of Buffalo on Saturday. He took a penalty doing that. He shutdown Malkin in the world juniors a couple years ago and now it seems as though he's playing against every teams' best players and shutting them down. He has great puck control with his size always shielding the player off trying to pick his pocket when he has the puck and his skating ability is fluid and tremendous. I love watching him play the game. Wish you guys could see more of him.

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Even if you don't get him signed to a contract you would be getting something like 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3d, which as our offersheet to the ducks showed this year, can be very good depending on the team.
and that is a pretty weak haul for a Pitkanen or a Staal

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Who do Rangers fans compare him too?

I think he would end up a 1A type of defesnemen in the Mattias Ohlund mold but it seems like Ranger fans feel he has more upside and is a future Norris winner.
I say Tomas Kaberle, but I've heard lots of different comparisons

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Fair enough. But what about Pitkanen as an add on? The numbers havven't come this year, but boy has he been solid. Probably our best Dman for the year, which really isn't saying a lot, but still.

Even if you don't get him signed to a contract you would be getting something like 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3d, which as our offersheet to the ducks showed this year, can be very good depending on the team.
I'd love to have Pitkanen, but I dont think the rangers could meet what the oilers want for him.

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If you think those two players are better than Montoya,then that's your issue.

You are overrating your guy.
If you think Montoya is better then our guys, thats your issue.

You are overrating your guy.


I'm not saying I'm agreeing you either of you, but Traktor threw ot cold hard stats, you just made a claim, and it's quite easy to do that.

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I'd love to have Pitkanen, but I dont think the rangers could meet what the oilers want for him.
Also fair enough.
It seems you guys have a gem here, from what you'e said in your reply to Traktor, really best of luck in the future.

Also, for those intrested, I made a poll in te poll board about Sam Gagner Vs. Marc Staal, I'm sure ytou guys would want to have your opinions heard.

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Staal is the next Lidstrom. You heard it here first.

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Also fair enough.
It seems you guys have a gem here, from what you'e said in your reply to Traktor, really best of luck in the future.

Also, for those intrested, I made a poll in te poll board about Sam Gagner Vs. Marc Staal, I'm sure ytou guys would want to have your opinions heard.
It's kinda tough to compare Gagner vs Staal because they obviously play two different positions in which they would bring different qualities to the table. Gagner as a forward can flat out score. Staal is solid defensively. Two different games.

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Maybe.

Get back to me though when you can tell me what's so great about him besides being a 10 ten pick.

Has undrafted Miika Wiikman stole the #1 job from Montoya yet?
You mean the Montoya who is 5-0 with a 2.44 GAA and .919 save % this month

If the Rangers move Montoya,it should be in a deal which fills a need for them.Not for another prospect.

What's so great about Schremp?

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