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02-25-2008, 12:03 PM
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Why Bryan McCabe would be a good fit for the Rangers

As Im sure some of you have heard its been reported that the Rangers are interested in McCabe. He has a NTC but said he would consider waving it if it was to a New York team (Rangers, Isles, Devils) because his wifes from there.

In all honesty guys, Im not just saying this because Im a leaf fan, but McCabe would be great pick up for your team, and is unquestionably valuable. For a number of different reasons.

First of all, despite what so many people said about John Ferguson Jr., he really wasnt a stupid guy, or for that matter that bad of a GM. When he signed McCabe, he took into account the likely possibility of cap raises over the course of the next few year. So by frontloading McCabe's contract he made it more flexible. McCabe makes 6.1 milllion next year, and the following years hes paid 4.1 million. Compare that to what Campbell and Boyle will be getting

McCabe's also a powerplay specialist, who still has a bullet shot and is used to playing 28 minutes a game. The fact is that when healthy, his career numbers are impressive. He is plus 37 in his career.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...hl-maple_leafs

He's 32 years old, People talk about him as if hes closing in on 40. Hes had playoff experience and is currently in his "prime". He makes no more mistakes then a regular defensemen, but because hes in Toronto, and given that he plays half the game he sometimes gets a hard time, which he shouldnt.

Im not saying Bryan McCabe is without flaws, hes at times prone to the odd stupid penalty, or makes a mistake. But their is no denying hes a above average defensemen, well respected around the league, who as opposed to what a majority of you think is worth something and would be an excellent fit on your hockey club.

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I would really hate to add another 5mil+ player to our roster, dont want to tie our hands for down the road.

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But how's his defense?

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As Im sure some of you have heard its been reported that the Rangers are interested in McCabe. He has a NTC but said he would consider waving it if it was to a New York team (Rangers, Isles, Devils) because his wifes from there.

In all honesty guys, Im not just saying this because Im a leaf fan, but McCabe would be great pick up for your team, and is unquestionably valuable. For a number of different reasons.

First of all, despite what so many people said about John Ferguson Jr., he really wasnt a stupid guy, or for that matter that bad of a GM. When he signed McCabe, he took into account the likely possibility of cap raises over the course of the next few year. So by frontloading McCabe's contract he made it more flexible. McCabe makes 6.1 milllion next year, and the following years hes paid 4.1 million. Compare that to what Campbell and Boyle will be getting

McCabe's also a powerplay specialist, who still has a bullet shot and is used to playing 28 minutes a game. The fact is that when healthy, his career numbers are impressive. He is plus 37 in his career.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...hl-maple_leafs

He's 32 years old, People talk about him as if hes closing in on 40. Hes had playoff experience and is currently in his "prime". He makes no more mistakes then a regular defensemen, but because hes in Toronto, and given that he plays half the game he sometimes gets a hard time, which he shouldnt.

Im not saying Bryan McCabe is without flaws, hes at times prone to the odd stupid penalty, or makes a mistake. But their is no denying hes a above average defensemen, well respected around the league, who as opposed to what a majority of you think is worth something and would be an excellent fit on your hockey club.
I can't say I agree with you there, hence my lack of interest for McCabe. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say McCabe probably has more "own goals" than anyone else in the league.

The only real upside I can see is that he'll at least take the body on occasion. That and Sanguinetti should be ready to take over as #1 offensive D-man around the time McCabe is set to be a UFA.

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Its been confirmed in the post that the Rangers are NOT interested in McCabe.

And neither am i.

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As Im sure some of you have heard its been reported that the Rangers are interested in McCabe. He has a NTC but said he would consider waving it if it was to a New York team (Rangers, Isles, Devils) because his wifes from there.

In all honesty guys, Im not just saying this because Im a leaf fan, but McCabe would be great pick up for your team, and is unquestionably valuable. For a number of different reasons.

First of all, despite what so many people said about John Ferguson Jr., he really wasnt a stupid guy, or for that matter that bad of a GM. When he signed McCabe, he took into account the likely possibility of cap raises over the course of the next few year. So by frontloading McCabe's contract he made it more flexible. McCabe makes 6.1 milllion next year, and the following years hes paid 4.1 million. Compare that to what Campbell and Boyle will be getting

McCabe's also a powerplay specialist, who still has a bullet shot and is used to playing 28 minutes a game. The fact is that when healthy, his career numbers are impressive. He is plus 37 in his career.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...hl-maple_leafs

He's 32 years old, People talk about him as if hes closing in on 40. Hes had playoff experience and is currently in his "prime". He makes no more mistakes then a regular defensemen, but because hes in Toronto, and given that he plays half the game he sometimes gets a hard time, which he shouldnt.

Im not saying Bryan McCabe is without flaws, hes at times prone to the odd stupid penalty, or makes a mistake. But their is no denying hes a above average defensemen, well respected around the league, who as opposed to what a majority of you think is worth something and would be an excellent fit on your hockey club.


Sorry Id rather pay Dan Boyle an additional 1 or 1.5 million and have a legit #1 defenseman, then a foward immitating a defenseman.

I would take Mccabe if you guys take Malik. Straight up.

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im not saying that own goal wasnt ridiculous. It was also a fluke, simply judging him on that is just stupid.

And Im also not saying the leafs would expect stall and a pick either. But you guys who say hes terrible I strongly have to disagree with.

I would say more like

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im not saying that own goal wasnt ridiculous. It was also a fluke, simply judging him on that is just stupid.

And Im also not saying the leafs would expect stall and a pick either. But you guys who say hes terrible I strongly have to disagree with.

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Sorry Id rather pay Dan Boyle an additional 1 or 1.5 million and have a legit #1 defenseman, then a foward immitating a defenseman.

I would take Mccabe if you guys take Malik. Straight up.

Im going to say Boyle will be looking for a 4-5 year deal for roughly 6 + a year. To say hes by far better then McCabe without stating why isnt really arguing it. Hes just over a year younger then McCabe, while just as much IF NOT MORE of a defensive liability

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The rumour I heard yesterday was McCabe and a 2nd for Malik and Prucha.

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Maxim Kondratiev, Jarkko Immonen and a 2nd.

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I think the Rangers would be foolish not to CONSIDER him..As a player I think he would be a big help on the PP and on the back line (yes, more offensively then defensively--but I also like that he can be physical) the next 2.5 years (and we don't re-sign Rosy then)..And I don't think the cost in players or prospects will be all that much....And the age, as a D-man, is no concern at all....Just worried about the cap hit the next two years..

That and he is not the only D-man we should be looking at...All in all, I don't think we go there..but doesn't hurt to look...

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malik and mccabe at our blueline would be a nightmare waiting to happen

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The rumour I heard yesterday was McCabe and a 2nd for Malik and Prucha.
I'd have to seriously consider that.

Admittedly I'm a McCabe fan.

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The rumour I heard yesterday was McCabe and a 2nd for Malik and Prucha.
wouldnt do it, i love malik i feel like our defense is better with him in the lineup, we tend to tighten up when he plays

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I think the Rangers would be foolish not to CONSIDER him..As a player I think he would be a big help on the PP and on the back line (yes, more offensively then defensively--but I also like that he can be physical) the next 2.5 years (and we don't re-sign Rosy then)..And I don't think the cost in players or prospects will be all that much....And the age, as a D-man, is no concern at all....Just worried about the cap hit the next two years..

That and he is not the only D-man we should be looking at...All in all, I don't think we go there..but doesn't hurt to look...

Ya exactly, and as I Was saying, next year he does cost 6.1, but the next 2 years when he is 34-35 hes paid 4.1, and quite possibly, provided he stays healthy, would be considered a bargain.

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The rumour I heard yesterday was McCabe and a 2nd for Malik and Prucha.
Make it a 3rd and I'd do it.

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im not saying that own goal wasnt ridiculous. It was also a fluke, simply judging him on that is just stupid.
It's not judging him on just that one play, it's all the other crappy ones he makes over and over again. MSG hates Malik for his terrible giveaways, and McCabe is worse than Malik at that. Scoring some goals only mitigates that so much, especially when in the long run, he'd basically be replacing Rozsival (no way the Rangers could afford both of them) who is better than McCabe on defense, and while not quite as much of a threat on offense, still contributes quite a bit.


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I wouldn't give up Dawes for McCabe right now. The Rangers need future top 6 players much more than they need McCabe. Dawes is finally looking like a good solid scorer for the Rangers, and they really really need that down the line.

As for him helping the PP, I still think it'd require the team to shift its mentality so that it all runs to that one guy. Might not work this late in the season

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Make it a 3rd and I'd do it.
You prefer 3rd rounders over 2nd rounders?

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