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01-31-2004, 01:01 PM
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A Theory

ok with the antics of dirty players ever increasing and by this i mean the stuff that Tootoo pulls and the Forsberg style diving and coupled together with the instigator penalty relating in enforcers being more casual than before.

i just think that if we had a guy on the lineup that took no bull**** and if somebody like Tootoo starting pulling his **** across the ice that this guy just grabs him dont even give Tootoo the chance to get ready and bash the crap out of him, (now im not saying it be Tootoo but certainly the style of players im mentioning) with no worries about the instigator penalty, so what if it happens the guys sitting on the bench should look to take care of the penalty. Now my theory is that if this is done several times then the players like Tootoo and Forsberg will realise the next time something stupid is done that they will get the "justice" paid to them by the blacks and blues and not the blacks and whites something that they themselves wouldn't want.

So all in all I would think Georges has that potential, basically what we're asking a Georges with a frigging mean streak of immense proportions and with the "enforcer's handbook" firmly thrown out the window and just basic retaliation whenever something stupid takes place, who knows it'll probably reduce the bench minors

OK i know it aint a new theory and something that people always wanted Geroges to do but I'm posotive that if Georges does this then nobody would do things against the Oilers as long as the Oil are sure they are willing to take the penalty kill

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So all in all I would think Georges has that potential, basically what we're asking a Georges with a frigging mean streak of immense proportions and with the "enforcer's handbook" firmly thrown out the window and just basic retaliation whenever something stupid takes place, who knows it'll probably reduce the bench minors

OK i know it aint a new theory and something that people always wanted Geroges to do but I'm posotive that if Georges does this then nobody would do things against the Oilers as long as the Oil are sure they are willing to take the penalty kill
He is the toughest guy in the league, and if he played like a mean monster can you imagine how much it would boost this team? He certainly has the muscle to pull it off!

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Thats one thing I'll give Domi credit for he knew his role as an enforcer.He wasn't afraid to go after the other teams players to hand out team justice.I may not be a fan but he seems more of an intimidating presence than George when the player isn't a heavy weight.just my opinion.

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He is the toughest guy in the league, and if he played like a mean monster can you imagine how much it would boost this team? He certainly has the muscle to pull it off!
Imagine, at the 8:41 mark of a second period Tootoo tries something very stupid on Hemsky. Next shift, at the 9:22 mark, no matter what the score is, Laraque goes out there, pulls Legwand/Hartnell to the side and just pounds on them untill refs/Preds/other teammates stop him. That, my friend would quickly send a message around the league and make me very proud to purchase a Laraque jersey.

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Dare to dream! And dream big.......I'm waiting for the second week of march before I pick up a jersey though.

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I won a signed Laraque jersey from Game On Sports last summer.

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I hope he gives you a good reason to wear it. Last game was a nice step in the right direction.

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Which reminds me, how do I wash it? I've only worn it once, and I don't want to throw it in the washer and dryer because the autograph might come off as well.

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Sorry I can't help you. I've never had a Jersey signed. I know how to get blood stains out...There's a story there somewhere.

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i hope the instigator penalty will be gone by next year, what a joke. it is time to return to the days of frontier justice, you touch our best players your gonna pay. no more *****footing,turtling, or im sorry crap.
anyways do the oilers have someone other than laraque in their system who could be considered a heavyweight?

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oops forgot about rocky thompson down in toronto.

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Not many guys do this anymore. The closest thing I can think of it is Jody Shelly, whom truely is the last of the real good policeman out there.

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Hey Pucklove - how many times do you think they are going to make you post your 16th post before they let you move on. I saw you on other threads and everyone is marked as your 16th. Its like they have trapped you in a groundhog movie! A belated Welcome to the board.

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Hey Pucklove - how many times do you think they are going to make you post your 16th post before they let you move on. I saw you on other threads and everyone is marked as your 16th. Its like they have trapped you in a groundhog movie! A belated Welcome to the board.
It's a global setting. When you make a post, the number is added to your total and since the board is dynamically generated, all your posts show the same number. When he makes his 17th post, the one higher up here will say 17, etc.

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Which reminds me, how do I wash it? I've only worn it once, and I don't want to throw it in the washer and dryer because the autograph might come off as well.
Drycleaning... or use that Dryel stuff (you put the jersey in the bag, and into the dryer).

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It's a global setting. When you make a post, the number is added to your total and since the board is dynamically generated, all your posts show the same number. When he makes his 17th post, the one higher up here will say 17, etc.
The depths of technoligical illiteracy know no bounds apparently. Are you saying that if I go to various threads where my incoherent bleatings are recorded for all to see that they will all be recorded as the same number of postings? Even those I made months ago?

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Yes. That's why it says "Posts:" and not "Post number:" -- the number listed is your cumulative number of posts since creating your HF Boards account.

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Yes. That's why it says "Posts:" and not "Post number:" -- the number listed is your cumulative number of posts since creating your HF Boards account.
Thanks both of you. Apparently I am not only technologically illiterate but totally lacking in observational skills as well. Probably accounts for my ability to understand what MacTavish is up to behind the bench. Oh well, out into the freezing Siberia to watch and hope again tonight.

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Hey Pucklove - how many times do you think they are going to make you post your 16th post before they let you move on. I saw you on other threads and everyone is marked as your 16th. Its like they have trapped you in a groundhog movie! A belated Welcome to the board.
I never noticed that the posts had the same number. I guess that I have to contribute something intelligent to get to 17. (I could be 16 forever )
Thanks for the Welcome in
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i hope the instigator penalty will be gone by next year, what a joke. it is time to return to the days of frontier justice, you touch our best players your gonna pay. no more *****footing,turtling, or im sorry crap.
anyways do the oilers have someone other than laraque in their system who could be considered a heavyweight?
Stortini and Jacques could both be that type of player. Both taken in last years draft(2nd, 3rd rounds respectivly)

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ok with the antics of dirty players ever increasing and by this i mean the stuff that Tootoo pulls and the Forsberg style diving and coupled together with the instigator penalty relating in enforcers being more casual than before.

i just think that if we had a guy on the lineup that took no bull**** and if somebody like Tootoo starting pulling his **** across the ice that this guy just grabs him dont even give Tootoo the chance to get ready and bash the crap out of him, (now im not saying it be Tootoo but certainly the style of players im mentioning) with no worries about the instigator penalty, so what if it happens the guys sitting on the bench should look to take care of the penalty. Now my theory is that if this is done several times then the players like Tootoo and Forsberg will realise the next time something stupid is done that they will get the "justice" paid to them by the blacks and blues and not the blacks and whites something that they themselves wouldn't want.

So all in all I would think Georges has that potential, basically what we're asking a Georges with a frigging mean streak of immense proportions and with the "enforcer's handbook" firmly thrown out the window and just basic retaliation whenever something stupid takes place, who knows it'll probably reduce the bench minors

OK i know it aint a new theory and something that people always wanted Geroges to do but I'm posotive that if Georges does this then nobody would do things against the Oilers as long as the Oil are sure they are willing to take the penalty kill
I think this is a ridiculous post and lame way to link the playing style of two completely different players. Tootoo and Forsberg are so different and to tar them both as 'dirty' players and the call for retribution on them is off putting. Tootoo has made this league based on his borderline dirty play and 'energy' game. He will indeed get his at some point in time. However to link Forsberg's diving to this and suggest it warrant a physical beating is ludicrous. I don't condone Forsberg's embellishment but this guy often takes a huge physical pounding which often isn't called. To suggest beating on this league's best player imo and calling his game dirty is extremely shortsighted.

What this game doesn't need is to impede the play of its skill players. The solution to Forsberg's diving is to call a penalty not to have him jumped by some thug. The game has enough image problems...

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u tell the fat cats in the NHL office go on, let's see how long it lasts till they throw you out im guessing around 30 seconds.

no i'm sorry but this all relates to things, if you play dirty and YES DIVING IS PLAYING DIRTY SINCE DIVING = CHEATING then you better expect things to be done to you and if the league aint gonna do **** about it then its about time someone did otherwise diving gets completely out of hand. I know this since its taken over the football leagues in europe here, so many players dive even though they get booked they STILL dive.

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u tell the fat cats in the NHL office go on, let's see how long it lasts till they throw you out im guessing around 30 seconds.

no i'm sorry but this all relates to things, if you play dirty and YES DIVING IS PLAYING DIRTY SINCE DIVING = CHEATING then you better expect things to be done to you and if the league aint gonna do **** about it then its about time someone did otherwise diving gets completely out of hand. I know this since its taken over the football leagues in europe here, so many players dive even though they get booked they STILL dive.
Still trying to understand your post. Firstly, what exactly do you want me to tell the fat cats in the NHL office?

As far as the rest of your reply, this is what I think you've said...
Diving = playing dirty Diving = cheating ERGO Diving = playing dirty. Then something about European football and diving. Should I conclude Diving = european football? And by your 'solution' to hockey cheaters, following your logic do you recommending soccer cheater be dealt with by enforcers?

Is this what you want to communicate to the fat cats??

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playing dirty and cheap shots do you agree they stoop to the same level of cheapness brought to the game?

if you can understand that then using an enforcer a few times will "enforce" the fact that if they do it again there will be reprecussions. No european football does not have enforcers in the game, they have referees that tell players off for diving, similar to what you are saying that refs do, i don't honestly see that working since some of the refs are either blind, stupid or dont have the balls to call it on certain players/teams/situations.

does that make it clearer?

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