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01-31-2004, 07:14 PM
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Despite the Numbers..

Who is the best offensive force on your team that never gets the goals or assists to match his offensive ability? Whether it's lack of finish or lack of playing with linemates who can score, who always seems to have a strong offensive game but never gets any points? These guys are really frustrating when talking about trade value because people are so numbers oriented that they make proposals and trade offers based soley upon the numbers. I was just wondering about some of the other guys around the league that always are strong on the puck in the offensive zone but don't get the credit they deserve.

For the Hurricanes, i'd have to say this player was Kevyn Adams. He's a spark of energy off the bench and always seems to create a scoring chance when he hits the ice. He has some great moves and is a really offensive minded center but he doesn't get the credit he deserves due to lackluster numbers.

A few others i've noticed around the league would have to be Maxim Afinogenov, Kristian Huselius, and Danius Zubrus. Has anybody else noticed these type of players?

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Robert Reichel.

Very good offensive skills. Bonus is that he's great defensively as well. If he was a 60-70 point player, it would be much easier to move that $3M+ contract, but he's been a 40-50 point player in Toronto.

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For the Habs its easy...Jan Bulis.

The kid has great wheels and usually is right in the middle of things. However he is certainly not a natural goal scorer.

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Robert Reichel.

Very good offensive skills. Bonus is that he's great defensively as well. If he was a 60-70 point player, it would be much easier to move that $3M+ contract, but he's been a 40-50 point player in Toronto.
Another great example. That one sort of slipped my mind a little but he fits perfectly in this category.

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Although he has 32 points on the year, I'm going to go with Daniel Sedin. He always seems to be around the net doing stuff, but often times he doesn't get rewarded with a goal. A good example was last year in a game against New York, where he rang the puck off both posts and it didn't go in. Then again, this year, Henrik took a shot, hit one post, then Daniel took the rebound on a one timer and hit the other post. Really strange moment.

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PJ Axelsson for the Bruins.

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Aleksey Morozov

Kid has mad skills but hasn't found the back of the net since the 5th grade picnic. He plays alot better when he is around good players, which means he's kind of a leech, but the fact remains he is extremely talented but doesn't have the productivity to show for it.

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Radek Dvorak, Could have had 45+ points this season, if not for the bad luck he had at the beginning of the season. Always made his chances just would be completely robbed or hit the post.

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Mizral mentioned Daniel Sedin, I feel Henrik Sedin could be excellent offensively, more in the playmaking department. Even though his numbers are always a bit low, he has so much potential to be a very good point-producer. He has great hockey sense.

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For the Preds, sometimes I feel like Zidlicky doesn't get the points to match his offense talent. He goes on great streaks, but just doesn't seem to find the net (not that anyone else on this team can) like his talent would indicate.

Adam Hall is another one for the Preds.

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Robert Reichel.

Very good offensive skills. Bonus is that he's great defensively as well. If he was a 60-70 point player, it would be much easier to move that $3M+ contract, but he's been a 40-50 point player in Toronto.
Reichel is good, but I would rather go with Renberg. He's allways on Sundin's line and Sundin allways gets the points. Renberg can't finnish very well, and a lot of people hate him. Reichel is a better all-round player, but Renberg is better offensively.

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Mizral and SopelFan mentioned the Sedins. I'm throwing Artem Chubarov into the mix. Has some good offensive upside, but continues to play with grinders and the offensively challenged.

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I'll agree with oiltown.......... Dvorak is snakebitten and he's always in the thick of things. Reasoner is good but he doesn't have the same skills as Dvorak

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on the avs? ???

selanne???

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For the Stars it's Morrow. He creates a lot of chances and does the dirty work in front of the net. If he had a better set of hands, he'd be a 30 goal scorer easy. He maximizes his talent by working his tail off and playing pretty smart.

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For Anaheim Stanislav Chistov, only one goal so far (but a decent amount of assists). He create a lot of offense, play a good offensive game but this year he can't find the net. Lots of goalposts too.

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on the avs? ???

selanne???
New Rule: Nobody who's ever held a goal-scoring record is allowed!

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Well I'd have to agree though...what has Selanne done since leaving the Mighty Ducks?

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ehc73 mentioned Chubarov, I'm going to go with Jason King. Everything this kid touched at the start of the season turned to gold, but lately (before he was sent back to the minors mind you), absolutely nothing was happening for him offensively. Though anyone could see that he was trying hard and creating chances, just nothing seemed to be going his way.

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Mizral and SopelFan mentioned the Sedins. I'm throwing Artem Chubarov into the mix. Has some good offensive upside, but continues to play with grinders and the offensively challenged.
Yes.. I was gonna say him but checked to see if anyone else said him first. He's always making nifty moves to get to the net, but can't seem to make it squeak past the line. I'll also say Jason King since his hot streak ended.. he put in such an effort and got so many almost-goals but nothing quite went in.

edit: bah, and now the guy above me stole what I wanted to add

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Donald Brashear, he's a sniper, I swear! :p

Gagne and Kapanen would be much more productive on other teams.

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If only Chris Clark had hands.

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Amonte,
If posts counted as goals...

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Amonte,
If posts counted as goals...


Gagne...in a landslide.

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