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02-26-2008, 05:56 PM
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Your 2008-09 Columbus Blue Jackets

OK. No being upset about the trade deadline in this thread. No whining about people being upset about the trade deadline either.

Howson has money to spend, and we have no reason to believe he won't spend it. We also have another couple picks that could soften the blow if we offer a successful offer sheet. Who do you target and how do you make this team a contender for next season?

http://nhlnumbers.com - for player info, contracts, UFAs, etc.

I need time to think about what my roster would look like, so I figured I'd post this and let you all ponder the questions as well.

Basically, what can we do through trade and free agency prior to next season's training camp to make ourselves a legitimate contender?

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What I've been wondering (feel free to skewer me if my perceptions of dates and timings are off):
Draft day is June 20. Trades are available this day. (Right?)
Free agency is July 1. This is also when Marleau's NTC kicks in.
Therefore: Is Howson possibly hoping to try a draft-day trade for Marleau, post-playoffs?

Just a thought.

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What I've been wondering (feel free to skewer me if my perceptions of dates and timings are off):
Draft day is June 20. Trades are available this day. (Right?)
Free agency is July 1. This is also when Marleau's NTC kicks in.
Therefore: Is Howson possibly hoping to try a draft-day trade for Marleau, post-playoffs?

Just a thought.
That has to be what he's planning. I'm looking through the free agent centers, trying to put together some ideas, and there's just nothing. If we use an offer sheet, I think it should be for a defenseman. I guess it's also a positive that Jokinen wasn't moved.

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Not sure of who by names but Defensemen look to be easier to acquire via free agency. The free agent crop for centers isn't too impressive.

I might be willing to consider throwing an offer sheet to Mike Green in Washington. He's been a scoring machine on their blue line this year. Especially if we end up with two 1st round picks but Washington looks like they will have the funds to match anything we throw out there.

Joni Pitkanen is another name that intrigues me.

I'm sure we'lll probably continue to pursue Marleau in the offseason. Saku Koivu seems like an interesting option but Montreal probably has no interest in moving him wither.

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For #1 Center-
The only UFA that I like is Langkow. He'd be the best fit as far as what he'll demand and what we can afford. He'd fit with Nasher well.

I really see our #1 center being acquired in a trade though, but we'll see. I hope Langkow is the target.

As far as RFA's I would consider an offer sheet to Carter. Following through is one thing, considering is another.Carter would be a dream.

For D-

I'd like to see Campbell here. I'd resign Hainsey, Hejda. Methot plays. Klesla and Russell.

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Here are UFA centers for upcoming summer (Team, Age, Player):

ANA 36 Doug Weight
ATL 36 Bobby Holik
BOS 33 Glen Metropolit
BUF 27 Michael Ryan
CGY 35 Craig Conroy
CGY 30 Daymond Langkow
CGY 33 Stephane Yelle
CHI 26 Jason Williams
CHI 36 Yanic Perreault
COL 37 Joe Sakic
COL 33 Peter Forsberg
DAL 36 Stu Barnes
DAL 26 Brad Winchester
DET 28 Daniel Cleary
EDM 30 Marty Reasoner
MON 35 Bryan Smolinski
NYI 26 Josef Vasicek
NYR 34 Martin Straka
NYR 27 Sean Avery
OTT 26 Chris Kelly
OTT 31 Randy Robitaille
PHI 38 Jim Dowd
PHI 32 Vaclav Prospal
PHX 29 Mike York
PHX 29 Niko Kapanen
SJS 31 Curtis Brown
STL 31 Ryan Johnson
TBL 31 Chris Gratton
TBL 38 Tim Taylor
TOR 36 Mats Sundin
TOR 26 Dominic Moore
VAN 31 Brendan Morrison
VAN 37 Trevor Linden
VAN 30 Byron Ritchie
WSH 37 Sergei Fedorov

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What an underwhelming list.

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If the Sharks want to keep Campbell, Marleau would probably be dealt.

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i say anyone over 32 should be avoided, i've had enough of these old farts who think they can still play but they're just money vacuums

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I really hope that Howson does NOT make any offer sheets to RFA's this summer. I don't think that is a very productive strategy.

As far as Handyy's rather underwhelming list of upcoming UFA centers goes, it merely solidifies in my mind the thought that Howson will do all he can to trade for a #1 center. That will not be easy to pull off though as everyone in the league is well aware of the value a true #1 center brings to a team. We may very well end up going into next year with either a second tier veteran or take a chance on a youngster like Brassard. Parity in the league just makes it that much harder to improve your team these days.

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02-26-2008, 06:50 PM
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resign: hainsey, hejda, peca

sign: ryder, redden

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I wonder if the Jackets are going after any of the European free agents, like Swedes Fabian Brunnström, Linus Klasen and Linus Videll.

Brunnström keeps getting compared to Alfredsson, and unfortunately it sounds like he's going to sign with Detroit or Toronto. He's a LW, which the Jackets have depth at, and he's not the center the Jackets need, but certainly a skilled forward that could help the Jackets.

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02-26-2008, 07:50 PM
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KO - Mason will NOT be in Columbus next season.

I wan't you to name for me the last goaltender who jumped from juniors straight to the NHL and is having a successful career.

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I wonder if the Jackets are going after any of the European free agents, like Swedes Fabian Brunnström, Linus Klasen and Linus Videll.

Brunnström keeps getting compared to Alfredsson, and unfortunately it sounds like he's going to sign with Detroit or Toronto. He's a LW, which the Jackets have depth at, and he's not the center the Jackets need, but certainly a skilled forward that could help the Jackets.
I don't even bother bringing up their names, unfortunately Everything I ever hear leads me to believe Detroit pretty much has the market cornered on Scandinavian players. Getting Brunnström to Nationwide would be awesome, but it appears that when it happens he'll be wearing a Wings jersey.

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Here's what I think our roster looks like right now for 2008-09. This assumes.......
*Only those players currently under contract, so no UFA's even though there are some I would try to resign.
*We resign our RFA's.
* Where I feel our players skill set fits on most playoff bound NHL teams.
*Current skill level of our young players, so no "penciling in" growth over the summer although Im sure it will/hope it will happen but dont want to count on it, want it to happen in camp.

Nash(5.4)/Open/Open
Modin(3.25)/Open/Zherdev(2.5)
Chimera(1.875)/Malhotra(1.5)/Fritsche(.6125)
Open/Novotny(.75)/Boll(.743333)

Open/Open
Klesla(1.6)/Methot(.608333)
OKT(.675)/Russell(.744444)

Leclaire(1.4)
Norrena(.850)

*That is 22.50861.
*If the cap stays at 50.0
*That leaves 27.79139 to resign our RFA's and sign some UFA's.
*I would also upgrade our backup goalie
*Im also not sure I would want Methot and OKT playing? One of them in Syracuse?

Howson has some work to do, but I still have faith.

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i say anyone over 32 should be avoided, i've had enough of these old farts who think they can still play but they're just money vacuums
Anyone over 30

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Here's what I think our roster looks like right now for 2008-09. This assumes.......
*Only those players currently under contract, so no UFA's even though there are some I would try to resign.
*We resign our RFA's.
* Where I feel our players skill set fits on most playoff bound NHL teams.
*Current skill level of our young players, so no "penciling in" growth over the summer although Im sure it will/hope it will happen but dont want to count on it, want it to happen in camp.

Nash(5.4)/Open/Open
Modin(3.25)/Open/Zherdev(2.5)
Chimera(1.875)/Malhotra(1.5)/Fritsche(.6125)
Open/Novotny(.75)/Boll(.743333)

Open/Open
Klesla(1.6)/Methot(.608333)
OKT(.675)/Russell(.744444)

Leclaire(1.4)
Norrena(.850)

*That is 22.50861.
*If the cap stays at 50.0
*That leaves 27.79139 to resign our RFA's and sign some UFA's.
*I would also upgrade our backup goalie
*Im also not sure I would want Methot and OKT playing? One of them in Syracuse?

Howson has some work to do, but I still have faith.
I think someone said the Cap is projected to go up to 54 million, i think TS mentioned it.

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Here's what I think our roster looks like right now for 2008-09. This assumes.......
*Only those players currently under contract, so no UFA's even though there are some I would try to resign.
*We resign our RFA's.
* Where I feel our players skill set fits on most playoff bound NHL teams.
*Current skill level of our young players, so no "penciling in" growth over the summer although Im sure it will/hope it will happen but dont want to count on it, want it to happen in camp.

Nash(5.4)/Open/Open
Modin(3.25)/Open/Zherdev(2.5)
Chimera(1.875)/Malhotra(1.5)/Fritsche(.6125)
Open/Novotny(.75)/Boll(.743333)

Open/Open
Klesla(1.6)/Methot(.608333)
OKT(.675)/Russell(.744444)

Leclaire(1.4)
Norrena(.850)

*That is 22.50861.
*If the cap stays at 50.0
*That leaves 27.79139 to resign our RFA's and sign some UFA's.
*I would also upgrade our backup goalie
*Im also not sure I would want Methot and OKT playing? One of them in Syracuse?

Howson has some work to do, but I still have faith.
I honestly don't think it'd be worth it to improve on norrena, more likely we lean on Leclaire, with him playing more like 3/4 the season and trading norrena for greater needs and a not-as-good backup goalie.

Oh, and Hitchcock is obsessed with having Modin and Nash on the same line... so... whatever.

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Also, plan on paying more than 1.4 million for Leclaire.

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Also, plan on paying more than 1.4 million for Leclaire.
I agree.

At the bottom I mentioned we would have to use some of the 27 million or so we have available to resign all of our RFA's. I just didnt want to speculate on amounts?????

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looks like we're headed for another season of a lot of third line guys on our team...

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Plus, any d that has Methot/OKT penciled in as full-time guys is a cause for serious concern

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Plus, any d that has Methot/OKT penciled in as full-time guys is a cause for serious concern
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I agree. At the bottom, my post was too long, I mentioned upgrading Norrena and that I wasnt sure I wanted both Methot and OKT on the roster at the same time and one should be in Syracuse.

I think were saying the same thing in that they are both 5/6 at this point in their development and if you figure Russell is a 5/6 at this point which I do, then you have three 5/6 on your opening day roster which is cause for serious concern.

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I think defense is one area that could see an upgrade through free agency.

They should have the money to take a run at Campbell (whether or not he wants to play here or if they got outbid is another story), Liles is a UFA, so is Commodore, Jason Smith too. Rozsival?

As for center, what about trying to work a deal for Nylander? With Backstrom & Fleishman's development maybe he becomes expendable. The only downside is a $5M contract signed for (I think) 3 more years...that doesn't scare me, but the guy will be 36 in October.

The other intriguing guy to me is P-M Bouchard. I know he's played mostly wing, but isn't he a natural center? Don't know that he's a #1, but definitely an upgrade. He's an RFA though, so I doubt he would be poached.

Just ideas...with the available money, a full-season with Howson, the strides made this year, there's no excuse not to ice a better team in 2008-09.

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02-26-2008, 09:40 PM
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What an underwhelming list.
are you sure? read it again:

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ANA 36 Doug Weight
ATL 36 Bobby Holik
BOS 33 Glen Metropolit
BUF 27 Michael Ryan
CGY 35 Craig Conroy
CGY 30 Daymond Langkow
CGY 33 Stephane Yelle
CHI 26 Jason Williams
CHI 36 Yanic Perreault
COL 37 Joe Sakic
COL 33 Peter Forsberg
DAL 36 Stu Barnes
DAL 26 Brad Winchester

DET 28 Daniel Cleary
EDM 30 Marty Reasoner
MON 35 Bryan Smolinski
NYI 26 Josef Vasicek
NYR 34 Martin Straka
NYR 27 Sean Avery
OTT 26 Chris Kelly
OTT 31 Randy Robitaille
PHI 38 Jim Dowd
PHI 32 Vaclav Prospal
PHX 29 Mike York
PHX 29 Niko Kapanen
SJS 31 Curtis Brown
STL 31 Ryan Johnson
TBL 31 Chris Gratton
TBL 38 Tim Taylor
TOR 36 Mats Sundin
TOR 26 Dominic Moore
VAN 31 Brendan Morrison
VAN 37 Trevor Linden
VAN 30 Byron Ritchie
WSH 37 Sergei Fedorov

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