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02-27-2008, 07:25 AM
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The thank you Gainey post trade thread

Good job Bob , you made the right move going with Price as your horse in the pipes .
Huet wasnt going to sign here , and he wasnt " the guy moving forward ".
You also had the guts and smarts not to get ripped off for Hossa, a proven poor playoff performer , and a grossly overpaid player this summer. According to BG they wanted 4 elements and 3 of them " would of played with us tonight" .

you can blast him all you want , but the deal would of been somthing like this

Higgins, Lapierre, Lats, and a first in 2008

Lapierre, S. Kostistin , Latendresse and maybe Emelin

FOR A RENTAL player who will command 7-8 mil for what 35 goals ?

I am not a huge Higgins fan but his 25-30 goals a year , isn`t much less than what
Hossa would give you anyway , and eventually he comes at LESS THAN HALF THE COST .

Congrats Bob for not mortgaging the future which took years to rebuild the stockpile of kids. Great job for realizing we are a very good team ,but not a player away from a cup at ANY COST .

Congrats for being one of the few up and coming teams , 'WHO HAVE MANAGED THE CAP WELL" , building for the day when that rental deal at the deadline maybe the difference.

And Kudos to Regier again for walking away from another " dumb deal " . For the same money he could get Streit and Stuart in the off season , better than an " overpaid good player in Campbell" .

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I agree it does take guts not to make the Hossa move after all the hype in the city.

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.

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im just repeating what ive already said


Gainey did the right thing.

He got a fair return for Huet who was going to become a 4-5 MILLION dollar player.Montreal would never have been able to give him that and make this team work.

We had Huet from $600.000 to $2.8 million and he earned every penny BUT i dont think there much if ANY value left going foward ,not at 4 to 5 million per year.Let someone else make that mistake


Biron from Buffalo dealt for a 2nd round pick .

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02-27-2008, 07:36 AM
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Price and Halak all the way!

It's always the same thing... A bunch of teams give a bunch of assets for a drive to the cup but there's only one cup and all the rest end up making a mistake. If Pittsburg doesn't make it all the way and loose Hossa next summer, they'll have lost a lot.

In other words: Trade deadline rental are so overrated!

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.
It's weird because the angle I'm looking at it, it seems like a very good move since Bryzgalov was acquired FOR NOTHING on the waivers!! And I think Bryzgalov is better and has a way brighter futur than Huet!

Don't you realize that they weren't alot of offers for goalkeepers?
Do you realize that Price HAS to gain some experience in the playoffs and it's not by having Huet in the net that this will happen! If you want the Habs to be a top team in the years to come, you keeper has to perform in the playoffs and for that, he must have some playoff experience! Huet was going to leave at the end of the year anyway, so what's the big deal??

But hey, according to you, it wasn't a good move ON ANY ANGLES!

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.
What should he have gotten for Huet?

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.
tell me Huet's numbers from his last 6 games.

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What should he have gotten for Huet?
A first round pick or you keep him at least as a good insurance policy going into the playoffs (I say "at least" since he's still a better and more reliable goaltender than Price)

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tell me Huet's numbers from his last 6 games.
Tell me Huet's numbers since he's with the Habs.


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A first round pick or you keep him at least as a good insurance policy going into the playoffs (I say "at least" since he's still a better and more reliable goaltender than Price)

A 2009 2nd rounder(any position) is a 1st round value in any other draft
. Do your homeworks, I'm sure Gainey did.

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A 2009 2nd rounder(any position) is a 1st round value in any other draft
. Do your homeworks, I'm sure Gainey did.
I thought that was the 2008 draft.

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.
your opinion.

It was good value. The only question about the move is whether he should have take then risk on the Price/Halak tandem in spring 2008 , that's the ONLY thing that can be questioned about yesterday's decisions.

Gainey/Melanson seem comfortable with that situation, after hearing Gainey's PC, I am as well.

The alternatives, sending Huet to free agency for nothing, losing Halak to europe, were less desirable.

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A 2009 2nd rounder(any position) is a 1st round value in any other draft
. Do your homeworks, I'm sure Gainey did.
Too soon to judge that.

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Tell me Huet's numbers since he's with the Habs.
tell me Jose theodore back when he won the Vezina.
THen remember back to the nights he was letting in 5 or more here in Montreal


HUET over the last few weeks has been "un Huet like"
including 3 games where he let in 5 goals .

His play over the last few weeks didnt help to raise his value any .

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I thought that was the 2008 draft.
No 2008 is average(Very good for Ds), I dont know why TSN was hyping it. 2009 is something special.

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tell me Jose theodore back when he won the Vezina.
THen remember back to the nights he was letting in 5 or more here in Montreal


HUET over the last few week has been "un Huet like"
including 3 games where he let in 5 goals .
Same for Price, who was streaky all year and who seemed to have difficulties to handle the pressure.

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A first round pick or you keep him at least as a good insurance policy going into the playoffs (I say "at least" since he's still a better and more reliable goaltender than Price)
That wasn't the market value of Huet. I think Gainey got fair market value, we may want more but it just wasn't there to be had. Bryzgalov got nothing. Hedberg couldn't even be moved. Same for Roloson.

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Same for Price, who was streaky all year and who seemed to have difficulties to handle the pressure.
hey

Price is a ROAD WARRIOR .CHeck out his road record.

Halak is UNDEFEATED in the Bell Centre (7-0)


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No 2008 is average(Very good for Ds), I dont know why TSN was hyping it. 2009 is something special.
2008 is this summer.

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That wasn't the market value of Huet. I think Gainey got fair market value, we may want more but it just wasn't there to be had. Bryzgalov got nothing. Hedberg couldn't even be moved. Same for Roloson.
Then you keep him, since he's worth more to us than that late 2nd round pick.

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Then you keep him, since he's worth more to us than that late 2nd round pick.
It's been posted multiple times....look at all our prospects drafted after the first round. Dont you think a Plekanec, a S.Kostitsyn, A Halak etc... are worth a UFA Huet?

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We got a late second rounder for Huet. It wasn't a good move on any angles you look at it.
yea it was, Huet is out of the picture!

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Too soon to judge that.
No, 2010 is too soon, 2009 is just 15 months away. Everybody knew 2003 was going to be good many years in advance. When Toni Rajala cant crack the top 7 while being the best talent finland produced since Jokinen you know theres something special going on.

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Anyway. Thx Bob. You shocked me with the Huet trade but I still love and believe in this team.

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Then you keep him, since he's worth more to us than that late 2nd round pick.
But they didn't want Huet around anymore. I think after listening to Gainey's PC yesterday that is clear. The rotation between the two was clearly not working and Price is the future, not Huet. Keeping Huet does not give us a better chance at the Stanley Cup IMHO.

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