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02-28-2008, 12:58 PM
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If it turns out that both can be succesful NHL goalies then one of them will be worth a lot to get rid of one day.

Too bad Gainey didn't show case the 2 of them earlier, Maybe The Habs could have been the team that ripped off Jay Feaster for Brad Richards.

He would have made the Habs legitimate contenders in the east and given them a top level # 1 centreman for the next 3 years.

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No. I think your expectations of Halak are very high.

Price has more raw talent, and he has something you can't teach: size.
Price has more raw talent? Why because he was drafted higher?

I'd like you to tell Zetterburg and Datysuk that Matt Higgins & Eric Chouinard have more raw talent then them.

Fact is simple. Halak has dominated every league he has ever been in. So has Price.

It's going to be an interesting battle.

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He will continue developing as long as he is PLAYING.
In the last 18 games, I hope he will start 4 or 5 of them.
Of course, but at this point he'll develop faster in the NHL assuming he gets some starts. NHL players shoot harder, and release quicker than most AHlers - not to mention overall speed of play. He's played enough in the AHL, time for him to get NHL playing time (again)

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I too think Halak has the POSSIBILITY to be better than Price.

But if I had to bet, I'd put my money on Carey.
Both will be top 5-10 imo. Price has more raw talent, and I think he has the perfect mentality.

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halak it like that

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02-28-2008, 01:04 PM
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Bottom line, as someone else said, it's a good time to be a Habs fan (well it always is, just better than the recent past now)

OT but I'm going to Philly tonight to watch Sens-Flyers (friend got rink-side tickets from a vendor). Can't decide who to cheer for - I hate the Flyers more but we're battling Sens for 1st place. And I don't really mind the Sens that much . . .

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Since the discussion is on, without opening a new thread, should Halak start Friday and give Price the Devils? Or should Price play Friday and Halak plays at home versus New Jersey?

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Price has more raw talent? Why because he was drafted higher?

I'd like you to tell Zetterburg and Datysuk that Matt Higgins & Eric Chouinard have more raw talent then them.

Fact is simple. Halak has dominated every league he has ever been in. So has Price.

It's going to be an interesting battle.
No. Please don't put words in my mouth .

Both are talented goalies, of that there's no doubt. However, judging from what I've seen from both, Price has the a slight edge talent wise, and don't forget he's still 2 years behind Halak in development. Also, something which you conveniently dismissed in my previous post is that Price has a natural size advantage over Halak.

Either way, you're right it's going to be an interesting battle. Being that this organization has invested more in Price, he already has a head start on the race.

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Since the discussion is on, without opening a new thread, should Halak start Friday and give Price the Devils? Or should Price play Friday and Halak plays at home versus New Jersey?
I was thinking of this earlier today. I say give Halak the start on the road against Buffalo on Friday. Start Price at home against New Jersey.

1) Halak plays better on the road.

2) New Jersey is the bigger game IMO.

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Since the discussion is on, without opening a new thread, should Halak start Friday and give Price the Devils? Or should Price play Friday and Halak plays at home versus New Jersey?
AFAIK Halak hasn't lost a game at home yet.

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02-28-2008, 01:11 PM
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I was thinking of this earlier today. I say give Halak the start on the road against Buffalo on Friday. Start Price at home against New Jersey.

1) Halak plays better on the road.

2) New Jersey is the bigger game IMO.
Really? Since when? He's undefeated at home so far in his career.

IMO, if Price plays a strong game on Friday, he should play the Devils on Saturday.

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Halak hopes to give Price a battle
PAT HICKEY , The Gazette
Published: Thursday, February 28, 2008

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I love the attitude from both Price and Halak going into the new goaltending era. Price, who has stated he is ready to be a starter, and Halak, who also considers himself as a possible No.1.

I think we are in for a real treat watching these guys.
Halak has been giving the right attitude throughout the year, I think many expected him to back-up Huet, while Price was in Hamilton working on his game, but remember that is was Halak who was having all the playing time down there, and he surely impressed many of us.

This is why Bob Gainey felt comfortable with Price and Halak going into this last stretch.

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I was thinking of this earlier today. I say give Halak the start on the road against Buffalo on Friday. Start Price at home against New Jersey.

1) Halak plays better on the road.

2) New Jersey is the bigger game IMO.
Isn't Halak 7-0 at the Bell Centre and 3-6 on the road?

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No. Please don't put words in my mouth .

Both are talented goalies, of that there's no doubt. However, judging from what I've seen from both, Price has the a slight edge talent wise, and don't forget he's still 2 years behind Halak in development. Also, something which you conveniently dismissed in my previous post is that Price has a natural size advantage over Halak.

Either way, you're right it's going to be an interesting battle. Being that this organization has invested more in Price, he already has a head start on the race.
I just don't think the size is that big of deal. That's all. Sure it's a nice advantage to have.. but Halak, in my opinion, is a bit quicker than Price.. so it all evens out.

And yes, Price has had 2 less year of development. But Halak has had many less years of development in the North American game.

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AFAIK Halak hasn't lost a game at home yet.
You're right, he's still undefeated at home.

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I just don't think the size is that big of deal. That's all. Sure it's a nice advantage to have.. but Halak, in my opinion, is a bit quicker than Price.. so it all evens out.

And yes, Price has had 2 less year of development. But Halak has had many less years of development in the North American game.
Seems to work for Luongo.

Edit: Not to mention Brodeur and Roy (wasn't all that big when he entered the league, but was about 6'2 200+ if I'm not mistaken with the avs).

Size isn't everything, but it's a good asset.

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Halak reminds me of Andy Moog

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7-0 at home

Notice the 2 shutouts against the Bruins


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Seems to work for Luongo.

Edit: Not to mention Brodeur and Roy (wasn't all that big when he entered the league, but was about 6'2 200+ if I'm not mistaken with the avs).

Size isn't everything, but it's a good asset.
I'm not saying the size doesn't help Price, because it will. I'm not saying it doesn't give him an edge over a lot of goalies.. I just think his size isn't a huge difference maker between him and Halak.

Maybe I'm overrating Halak.

There are lots of goalies who haven't been nearly as big as Price but have had very solid NHL careers.

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I just don't think the size is that big of deal. That's all. Sure it's a nice advantage to have.. but Halak, in my opinion, is a bit quicker than Price.. so it all evens out.

And yes, Price has had 2 less year of development. But Halak has had many less years of development in the North American game.
Well the it's all a matter of opinion then, if you think size isn't that important. I happen to think it is important, and Price is extremely agile and fast for a guy his size. IMO, big/agile > small/slightly more agile.

We haven't even been discussing their fundamentals here. In which areas of technique do you feel Halak to be superior in? From what I've seen, Price has better lateral movement, better rebound control, better positioning. better in traffic in front of the net, has a better vision of the game, and is a slightly better puck handler. I haven't seen anything from Halak since his play last year, but from what I've seen, Price at his best is more dominant than Halak at his best.

Either way, the fact that we're debating our goaltending prospects is never a bad thing .

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Notice the 2 shutouts against the Bruins
Combines for a .935 save % at home.

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Notice the 2 shutouts against the Bruins
Halak played good that year.. but I think the pressure really got to him than it normally would.

I think he was 20 at the time he was called up and thrown to the fire because Aebischer couldn't handle it.

Expect his stats to go way up when he begins playing here again.

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I'm not saying the size doesn't help Price, because it will. I'm not saying it doesn't give him an edge over a lot of goalies.. I just think his size isn't a huge difference maker between him and Halak.

Maybe I'm overrating Halak.

There are lots of goalies who haven't been nearly as big as Price but have had very solid NHL careers.
The thing is that Size + Talent > Talent alone. Even if you do believe that Halak is slightly faster than Price...you can't believe that it makes up for the size difference.

Not to mention that from what I've seen Price has far better rebound control and puck handling skills.

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WTF? How did we lose to the Ruins on March 3 2007? Did hell freeze over that day?

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Halak played good that year.. but I think the pressure really got to him than it normally would.

I think he was 20 at the time he was called up and thrown to the fire because Aebischer couldn't handle it.

Expect his stats to go way up when he begins playing here again.
Yes. He also has a better defense, and a better team in general.

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