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03-01-2008, 01:25 AM
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What will the Kings do with the 1st pick?

Just wondering if you all would draft Stamkos or not. It seemslike you all have a plethra of good young centers.

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Stamkos or bust.

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Just wondering if you all would draft Stamkos or not. It seemslike you all have a plethra of good young centers.
You take the best player available. Yes, the Kings have more young forwards than they do Dmen, but you don't pass on a Stamkos, not when half the teams in the leauge were looking for a top 6 forward at the trade deadline.

You can always trade your area of strength to upgrade an area of weakness. With Cammy's contract expiring in 2009, he might be the guy you move to land a blueliner.

If the Kings don't get the 1st pick, you take the next best player on your list. Most likely that is Doughty, the dman.

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Not that I disagree SH, but I can definitely see DL trading down to take Schenn or Doherty.

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We would HAVE to take stamkos. But you never know with Lombardi, he leaves me nervous.

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Lombardi has a player targeted and will trade DOWN, Stamkos or no Stamkos. I just don't believe his philosophy is BPA.... rather, consensus BPA. Good or bad I don't know. He seems to have better success when drafting out of the top 10.

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We would HAVE to take stamkos. But you never know with Lombardi, he leaves me nervous.
Well Futa is the one we should worry about this year. Last year was pretty much all DL. This year is his first complete year as head scout. Edit: Sorry co-head scout.

So here are my thoughts on that...Futa know the OHL very well, which leads me to think that either one of Stamkos or Doherty will be picked. On the other hand, you've got to know that they've all been keeping a close eye Schenn because he and Hickey really impressed (as a unit) at the WJC's.


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We don't get Stamkos and I will eat Dean's heart.

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Well Futa is the one we should worry about this year. Last year was pretty much all DL. This year is his first complete year as head scout.

So here are my thoughts on that...Futa know the OHL very well, which leads me to think that either one of Stamkos or Doherty will be picked. On the other hand, you've got to know that they've all been keeping a close eye Schenn because he and Hickey really impressed (as a unit) at the WJC's.
I think Schenn is exactly the type of player the Kings need, but at the same time, I'd really hope to take Doughty or Stamkos if in a position to do so. Simply speaking, any team's philosophy should be BPA and by majority accounts, these guys are.

I'd have to say that I'd be upset if we have a top 3 pick and trade down to take Schenn, but I don't know if I'd be suprised or dissappointed...if that makes any sense.

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Willing to bet Dean goes for a D-man.

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I think Schenn is exactly the type of player the Kings need, but at the same time, I'd really hope to take Doughty or Stamkos if in a position to do so. Simply speaking, any team's philosophy should be BPA and by majority accounts, these guys are.

I'd have to say that I'd be upset if we have a top 3 pick and trade down to take Schenn, but I don't know if I'd be suprised or dissappointed...if that makes any sense.
I guess if that happens, it will be like the Hickey pick; we won't know whether or not it was the right pick for a couple of years down the road. For all we know Schenn could turn into Phaneuf part two, and Hickey another Visnovsky.

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It looks like you and Tampa will be fighting for the 1st pick. If Tampa wanted to trade with you to move up and pick Stamkos, what would it take? Figuring you would only be dropping 1 pick, it would have to be something reasonable.

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It looks like you and Tampa will be fighting for the 1st pick. If Tampa wanted to trade with you to move up and pick Stamkos, what would it take? Figuring you would only be dropping 1 pick, it would have to be something reasonable.
Who knows really. Tampa doesn't exactly have the deepest prospect pool out there.

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I just mentioned it because Stamkos is who Tampa wants and needs now they traded Richards. So in theory, if the season ended today, this would be a likely scenario. Wht about someone like Paul Ranger or Ryan Craig or both.

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I just mentioned it because Stamkos is who Tampa wants and needs now they traded Richards. So in theory, if the season ended today, this would be a likely scenario. Wht about someone like Paul Ranger or Ryan Craig or both.
Yeah, I kind of figured that was the reason.

Of course I'd be interested in Ranger, but I highly doubt Feaster would make him available. Craigs a useful player, but we've already got a log jam up front.

It really comes down to how much Lombardi wants Stamkos. If he's looking D then I'm sure he'd do the Ranger deal. Maybe a deal for even less. Florida didn't get much for trading down either year so..

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see Feaster target someone like Horcoff for the first instead.


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Yeah, I kind of figured that was the reason.

Of course I'd be interested in Ranger, but I highly doubt Feaster would make him available. Craigs a useful player, but we've already got a log jam up front.

It really comes down to how much Lombardi wants Stamkos. If he's looking D then I'm sure he'd do the Ranger deal. Maybe a deal for even less. Florida didn't get much for trading down either year so..

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see Feaster target someone like Horcoff for the first instead.
I dont get it. What do you mean?

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I dont get it. What do you mean?
You know, kind of like the Fedotenko deal.

That instead of trying for Stamkos, he trades his first for a solid second line center that can step in right away. Because Vinny isn't going to be happy on a team that's rebuilding

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Just wondering if you all would draft Stamkos or not. It seemslike you all have a plethra of good young centers.
Why do you have dvda in your username? Are you in the porn industry?

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I'll be happy with Stamkos, Filatov, or Bogosian. Schenn or Doughty at #1-3 would be ok, but I prefer the other 3.

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We would HAVE to take stamkos. But you never know with Lombardi, he leaves me nervous.
Keep in mind that Lombardi saw the last draft (as many others did, as well) as three top-tier prospects, and more or less a crapshoot after that. He said in so many words that he would've selected one of the top three if they had still been around. So, I think that it's a little unfair when people worry that he'll go off the board when a consensus pick is staring him in the face. If Stamkos is available, I believe that he'll snap him up; it's if Stamkos is gone at #2 and four roughly equal defensemen remain that we might see him stretch again and pick whichever one he has the best "feeling" for (regardless of service rankings).

About the possibility of swapping the #1 pick for Tampa Bay's #2, I don't see it happening. If Lombardi solicits offers for it, then he most likely doesn't intend to take Stamkos, anyways, so Tampa Bay would be better to just pass. Lombardi isn't a very good bluffer, IMO. It's why I think that no one was willing to trade down last draft. The Capitals and Oilers (who had the two picks right after the Kings) were very smart not to, since they still wound up with their guys without being dumb enough to give Dean something for the honor. I see the same kind of situation happening if Tampa Bay ends up picking #2 behind LA.


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It looks like you and Tampa will be fighting for the 1st pick. If Tampa wanted to trade with you to move up and pick Stamkos, what would it take? Figuring you would only be dropping 1 pick, it would have to be something reasonable.
Just making sure you all know there is a lottery right? So there are no guarntees. 5 teams have a shot at the 1st overall.

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Just making sure you all know there is a lottery right? So there are no guarntees. 5 teams have a shot at the 1st overall.
Yes, yes, we know. But seriously, would God be so cruel as to not let us end up with the number one? Probably.

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It looks like you and Tampa will be fighting for the 1st pick. If Tampa wanted to trade with you to move up and pick Stamkos, what would it take? Figuring you would only be dropping 1 pick, it would have to be something reasonable.
... to Tampa Bay - 1st overall this year and Cammy...
...to L.A. - TB's 1st, next years 1st and 2nd, and Mike Smith...

... this all depends if TB has the 2nd or 3rd overall pick this year... if they are lower than that, then no deal... im pretty sure that DL is not deadlocked on drafting Stamkos if he does get the 1st overall... with Schenn, Doughty and Stamkos as top 3, i doubt DL can make a mistake with any of them... if DL was blindfolded and he had to pick one of the 3 names on the board, i doubt hell miss... TB gets Stamkos this year and a young scoring winger, and we get either Schenn or Doughty... 2 chances of getting Tavarez or Hedman next year, an early 2nd rounder and a starting net minder... some of you probably are not sold on Smith but hes an improvement over the 2 clowns we have now... buy out cloutier and let JLB be the back up... nothing against JLB but he hasnt been the answer for us... i dont know about some of you guys but im thinking positive next year... with Smith in goal, i think we will be fighting for a playoff spot... sure we need some work on defense and hopefully DL can resolve this but the offense is there... the young guns have proven that they can carry the offense and score... its pretty much defense and in goal that has let us down... if we had won some games in dec and won half of our games against phx, we would probably be in the thick of things in the west... but this all depends on TB...

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