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HOH Top 100 Final List

This is the final list of the Top 100 Hockey Players as determined by the History of Hockey community at HFBoards:

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Top 100 Hockey Players
RankNo.PlayerPosHeightWeightCareer
199Wayne GretzkyC6'0"1851978-1999
24Bobby OrrD6'0"1991966-1977;1978-1979
39Gordie HoweRW6'0"2051946-1971;1973-1980
466Mario LemieuxC6'4"2001984-1997;2000-2006
59Bobby HullLW5'10"1911957-1980
69Maurice RichardRW5'10"1801942-1960
72Eddie ShoreD5'11"1941924-1944
84Jean BeliveauC6'3"2051950-1951;1952-1971
92Doug HarveyD5'11"1901947-1969
107Howie MorenzC5'9"1651923-1937
1177Raymond BourqueD6'0"2191979-2001
121Jacques PlanteG6'0"1751952-1973;1974-1975
1339Dominik HasekG6'2"1801990-2008
1421Stan MikitaC5'9"1691958-1980
1510Guy LafleurRW6'0"1851971-1985;1988-1991
1633Patrick RoyG6'0"1651984-2003
175Denis PotvinD6'0"2051973-1988
184Leonard "Red" KellyD6'0"1951947-1967
191Terry SawchukG5'11"1901949-1970
207Phil EspositoC6'1"2051963-1981
211Glenn HallG5'11"1901952-53;1954-1971
2216Bobby ClarkeC5'10"1761969-1984
237Ted LindsayLW5'8"1631944-1965
2411Mark MessierC6'1"2051978-2004
2568Jaromir JagrRW6'2"2401990-Present
265Nicklas LidstromD6'2"1901991-Present
2722Mike BossyRW6'0"1851977-1987
2819Bryan TrottierC5'11"1951975-1994
294Edouard "Newsy" LalondeC5'9"1681917-1928
3017Valeri KharlamovLW5'8"1651967-1981
3115Milt SchmidtC6"0"1851936-1942;1945-1955
3219Larry RobinsonD6'3"2201972-1992
3319Joe SakicC5'11"1851988-Present
3430Martin BrodeurG6'1"2051991-1992;1993-Present
352Viacheslav FetisovD6'1"2151974-1975;1976-1998
3619Steve YzermanC5'11"1851983-2006
3729Ken DrydenG6'4"2071970-1979
3810Syl Apps, Sr.C6'0"1851936-1948
395Bernard GeoffrionRW5'9"1701950-1964;1966-1968
4022Brad ParkD6'0"1901968-1985
414Fred "Cyclone" TaylorC5'8"1651905-1923
4224Chris CheliosD6'1"1901983-Present
435Bill CookRW5'10"1721922-1937
441Bill DurnanG6'0"1901943-1950
459Charlie ConacherRW6'0"2101929-1941
T-4622Max BentleyC5'9"1581940-1943;1945-1954
T-467Paul CoffeyD6'0"2001980-2001
4816Marcel DionneC5'8"1851971-1989
4927Frank MahovlichLW6'1"2051956-1978
507/4/11Joe MaloneC5'10"1501910-1924
513Pierre PiloteD5'10"1781955-1969
5220Vladislav TretiakG6'1"2021968-1984
T-535Aubrey "Dit" ClapperRW/D6'2"1951927-1947
T-537Francis "King" ClancyD5'7"1551921-1937
5512Richard "Dickie" MooreLW5'10"1681951-1965;1967-1968
569Andy BathgateRW6'0"1801952-1968;1970-1971
5716Henri RichardC5'7"1601955-1975
587Tim HortonD5'10"1801949-1974
597/17Frank BoucherC5'9"1851921-1922;1926-1938;1943-1944
601Walter "Turk" BrodaG5'9"1801936-1943;1945-1952
6117Earl SeibertD6'2"1981931-1946
621Clint BenedictG5'11"1851912-1930
6317Jari KurriRW6'0"1941977-1998
642Al MacInnisD6'2"2041981-2004
655/16Cy DennenyLW5'7"1681914-1929
665/6/7/15/19Nels StewartC6'1"1951925-1940
6716Brett HullRW5'11"2031986-2006
6813Boris MikhailovRW5'9"1701969-1981
T-696Sprague CleghornD5'10"1901910-1928
T-694Aurele JoliatLW5'7"1361922-1938
711Frank BrimsekG5'9"1701938-1943;1945-1950
729Ted KennedyC5'11"1751942-1957
7326Peter StastnyC6'1"2001975-1995
7421Peter ForsbergC6'0"2051990-Present
751Johnny BowerG5'11"1891953-1970
7616Elmer LachC5'10"1651940-1954
7724Sergei MakarovRW5'11"1851976-1997
7810Bill CowleyC5'10"1651934-1947
796Hector "Toe" BlakeLW5'10"1651934-1948
8091Sergei FedorovC6'2"2071990-Present
T-811George HainsworthG5'6"1501923-1937
T-811Bernie ParentG5'10"1801965-1979
834Bill GadsbyD6'0"1801946-1966
8411Anatoli FirsovLW5'9"1551958-1974
T-8511Gilbert PerreaultC6'1"1801970-1987
T-8521Borje SalmingD6'1"1931970-1993
T-879Johnny BucykLW6'0"2151955-1978
T-8714Dave KeonC5'9"1951960-1982
8911Harvey "Busher" JacksonLW5'11"1951929-1944
9014Doug BentleyLW5'8"1451939-1944;1945-1952;1953-1954
911Charlie GardinerG5'9"1761927-1934
924Scott StevensD6'2"2151982-2004
9312Sid AbelC/LW5'11"1701938-1943;1945-1954
9410Ron FrancisC6'3"2001981-2004
956Frank NighborC5'9"1601912-1930
9610Alex DelvecchioC/LW6'0"1951950-1974
976Valeri VasilievD5'11"1871966-1984
9818Serge SavardD6'3"2101966-1983
997Norm UllmanC5'10"1751955-1977
1002Brian LeetchD6'0"1851987-2004;2005-2006

Listed here are links to all the discussion threads that went into making this list:
Round 2 Voting Results
Round 2, Vote 1 (1-4)
Round 2, Vote 2 (5-10)
Round 2, Vote 3 (11-15)
Round 2, Vote 4 (16-20)
Round 2, Vote 5 (21-25)
Round 2, Vote 6 (26-30)
Round 2, Vote 7 (31-35)
Round 2, Vote 8 (36-40)
Round 2, Vote 9 (41-45)
Round 2, Vote 10 (46-50)
Round 2, Vote 11 (51-55)
Round 2, Vote 12 (56-60)
Round 2, Vote 13 (61-67)
Round 2, Vote 14 (68-74)
Round 2, Vote 15 (75-81)
Round 2, Vote 16 (83-88)
Round 2, Vote 17 (89-94)
Round 2, Vote 18 (95-100)

Listed here are links to all the lists than went into creating the master aggregate list and the voting record of each participant:
Aggregate List
Rejected Lists
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: amnesiac
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: arrbez
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: BM67
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: cottonking
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: DaveG
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: EagleBelfour
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: God Bless Canada
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Hockey Outsider
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: kruezer
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Kyle McMahon
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: MXD
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Nalyd Psycho
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: overpass
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: pappyline
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: pitseleh
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: pnep
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Pwnasaurus
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: raleh
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: reckoning
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: seventieslord
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Shlomo
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Thornton_19
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: tomi2
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Transplanted Caper
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Weztex
HOH Top 100 List & Voting Record: Wings4Life

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Wow, interesting. Might sound weird to say given he's The Great One but I am actually quite surprised too see Gretzky ahead of Orr. Nothing wrong with that selection, just from reading the posts here I felt most were leaning towards Orr.

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Will you be revealing how close the voting was?

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Wow, interesting. Might sound weird to say given he's The Great One but I am actually quite surprised too see Gretzky ahead of Orr. Nothing wrong with that selection, just from reading the posts here I felt most were leaning towards Orr.
Ditto for me. I thought Orr would win with Gretz close behind. What I find most amazing is that someone left Orr off completely. It sure would be interesting to see their argument for Richard over Orr. I sure can't thing of one.

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Will you be revealing how close the voting was?
see thread "Round 2 Voting Results"

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Excellent work fellas.

Personally I had Shore at #5 (though you can't go wrong with Bobby Hull) and Lemieux higher due to his phenomenal peak, but this is a pretty much a perfect top 10, imo.

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Great to see Bobby Hull at #5

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EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED at Eddie Shore being 7th...

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I'm surprised how eerily similar my top 10 was to the majority.

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EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED at Eddie Shore being 7th...
My guy is number is number 8 !

Anyway, nice to see Morenz at number 10. I think all the discussion about him payed off. I had him in my top-20 and now he sit 10 on my list.

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Very interesting top ten. One that is worth debating but also an easily defendable decision. Pleasant surprise to see Doug Harvey up there.

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Crap, we left Forsberg out of the top 5...

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Interesting project! Kudos for you guys for going through all the trouble.

However, I can only see a list of the first ten players. Where are players ranked 11 to 100?

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Interesting project! Kudos for you guys for going through all the trouble.

However, I can only see a list of the first ten players. Where are players ranked 11 to 100?
Still coming. Round 2, Vote 3 is currently taking place in the debate phase for the 11-15 spots on the list. Feel free to stop in the thread and chime in with your thoughts.

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Crap, we left Forsberg out of the top 5...
Isn't he superhuman enough to warrant a list of his own?

Interesting to see who will be the first european to crack the list though. Hasek probably has the best odds and may very well end up in the top 15 this week, but Lidstrom and Kharlamov should have pretty good chances to turn up next round.

And no, I don't count Stan Mikita as european.

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Still coming. Round 2, Vote 3 is currently taking place in the debate phase for the 11-15 spots on the list. Feel free to stop in the thread and chime in with your thoughts.
Ok.

Thanks for the invitation but I think I'll just observe. The thing is, I don't know nearly enough about the players of the past (say before 70'ies) to really formulate a balanced opinion on them. These threads are perfect for learning about those players though!

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Can't we sticky this? That's arguably the greatest hockey player ranking ever done.

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I can never rank ricahrd above lafluer. Guy is far more well rounded and he was consistently the best player in the league for like 5 seasons. Richard never won a scoring title, averages less than a point per game and hes just a goal scorer really, lafluer is far more talented.

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Isn't he superhuman enough to warrant a list of his own?

Interesting to see who will be the first european to crack the list though. Hasek probably has the best odds and may very well end up in the top 15 this week, but Lidstrom and Kharlamov should have pretty good chances to turn up next round.

And no, I don't count Stan Mikita as european.
Hes slovakian descent and he was born there. If you came to canada from sweden as a child, u wouldnt consider yourself swedish anymore?

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I can never rank ricahrd above lafluer. Guy is far more well rounded and he was consistently the best player in the league for like 5 seasons. Richard never won a scoring title, averages less than a point per game and hes just a goal scorer really, lafluer is far more talented.
Comparing PPG in the 40's and 50's with PPG in the 70's and 80's means less than nothing. That's like putting Fangio's F1 against Alonso's and tell Fernando is the better pilot because he won, ignoring the fact today's car are much more performant than in the 50's.

Richard is arguably the best playoff player ever. Leadership, grit, clutch playing, physical play, scoring, all those things Richard have more than Lafleur and ever more in the playoff. That left Flower with what? Passing? Meh...Lafleur had a great peak but Richard just had a much more consistent career. Nevermind his impact on the sport.

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Isn't he superhuman enough to warrant a list of his own?

Interesting to see who will be the first european to crack the list though. Hasek probably has the best odds and may very well end up in the top 15 this week, but Lidstrom and Kharlamov should have pretty good chances to turn up next round.

And no, I don't count Stan Mikita as european.
I was born in Poland, moved to Canada at two, and I consider myself Polish/European, there's a difference between a European player, and a European trained player.


I'm curious, what are the main things considered when voting, I'm guessing Impact, Career, Peak, in that order?

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Comparing PPG in the 40's and 50's with PPG in the 70's and 80's means less than nothing. That's like putting Fangio's F1 against Alonso's and tell Fernando is the better pilot because he won, ignoring the fact today's car are much more performant than in the 50's.

Richard is arguably the best playoff player ever. Leadership, grit, clutch playing, physical play, scoring, all those things Richard have more than Lafleur and ever more in the playoff. That left Flower with what? Passing? Meh...Lafleur had a great peak but Richard just had a much more consistent career. Nevermind his impact on the sport.
More consistent, yeah ok and when did he ever win the scoring titles.O my he won cups in a 6 team league where montreal candians always got to choose the top prospects in every draft. Not to mention his team was stacked with all stars.

Lafluer simply put up better numbers and he was the best player from his era for about 5 years. Hence why he won more hart trophies and art ross trophies. You know they are the 2 most prestigious awards for indvidual players, stanley cup is not an individual award, lafluer also won his fair share of cups, the difference, well lets see the nhl was far more competitive in the 70s, you didnt have all the players on montreal and toronto for christs sakes.

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Isn't he superhuman enough to warrant a list of his own?

Interesting to see who will be the first european to crack the list though. Hasek probably has the best odds and may very well end up in the top 15 this week, but Lidstrom and Kharlamov should have pretty good chances to turn up next round.

And no, I don't count Stan Mikita as european.
In the end it didn't matter what you consider Mikita because Hasek edged him out.

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I was born in Poland, moved to Canada at two, and I consider myself Polish/European, there's a difference between a European player, and a European trained player.


I'm curious, what are the main things considered when voting, I'm guessing Impact, Career, Peak, in that order?
I'd bet for each voter the criteria is different so it would depend who you asked. Also, if you read through the Round 2 voting threads you'll get an idea what is valued more in general.

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Hes slovakian descent and he was born there. If you came to canada from sweden as a child, u wouldnt consider yourself swedish anymore?
Technically I would be swedish. But I would've been raised to play the canadian game. Perhaps I should have been more straightforward and said that what I wished to see was a european trained guy who was actually drafted and played his way into the canadian dominated league. But none of that matters now anyway as Hasek already took the prize.

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