he'll probably put hatch and cobourn back together. Put modry with kimmo. Smith-jones.
i'm not sure about that actually. kimmo explicitly stated that he is getting comfortable w/ coby as his partner out there; that was one reason vandy got a lot of ice time (in addition to a man crush by a certain... special... coach)
as much as I don't like Kukkonen getting the shaft... Hatcher replaces Modry... right? at least keep Parent in if you're bringing Hatcher back.
i think if parent played in 10 or more games this year then that takes a year off of parent's contract and after next year he'll be an RFA. hes played in 10 games this year so since hes reached that milestone you should might as well play him.
i think if parent played in 10 or more games this year then that takes a year off of parent's contract and after next year he'll be an RFA. hes played in 10 games this year so since hes reached that milestone you should might as well play him.
Parent playing for the Phantoms is already eating his contract... he's not getting called up out of the CHL.
Hatcher coming back will help the defense. Coburn plays well with Hatcher, the issue is that Kimmo doesn't seem very comfortable with anyone else but Coburn... at least not comfortable enough to be 100% effective.
Maybe trying out Parent - Hatcher for awhile is a good idea.
Kimmo - Coburn
Parent - Hatcher
Jones - Kukkonen
The younger guys like playing with Hatcher and, let's face it, he knows all there is to know about playing defense. He'll have a positive effect on Parent. I think it's worth a shot. There's no way Hatcher since when healthy and this lineup seems like it has a shot at being very effective. If not, just try something else.
i think if parent played in 10 or more games this year then that takes a year off of parent's contract and after next year he'll be an RFA. hes played in 10 games this year so since hes reached that milestone you should might as well play him.
No, this is the first year coming off his contract. He's not an RFA until 2010.
Hatcher coming back will help the defense. Coburn plays well with Hatcher, the issue is that Kimmo doesn't seem very comfortable with anyone else but Coburn... at least not comfortable enough to be 100% effective.
Maybe trying out Parent - Hatcher for awhile is a good idea.
Kimmo - Coburn
Parent - Hatcher
Jones - Kukkonen
The younger guys like playing with Hatcher and, let's face it, he knows all there is to know about playing defense. He'll have a positive effect on Parent. I think it's worth a shot. There's no way Hatcher since when healthy and this lineup seems like it has a shot at being very effective. If not, just try something else.
I just can't see the captain getting scratched unless he says he can't play. You and I both know Modry's going to play as well. Personally, they were playing their best defense with the lineup they had the last three games before Modry came back (Timo-Coburn, Parent-Smith, Jones-Kukkonen). I knew when those guys got healthy things would go south and hey look at that, Modry came back and they sucked again.
Parent playing for the Phantoms is already eating his contract... he's not getting called up out of the CHL.
Yea...that stipulation is only applicable to players under the age of 20. Players who are 20 are already considered to be "on the clock", regardless of whether they're playing in the ECHL, AHL, NHL, or over in Europe.
Of course, there's a bunch of grey area...
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Hatcher coming back will help the defense. Coburn plays well with Hatcher, the issue is that Kimmo doesn't seem very comfortable with anyone else but Coburn... at least not comfortable enough to be 100% effective.
Maybe trying out Parent - Hatcher for awhile is a good idea.
Kimmo - Coburn
Parent - Hatcher
Jones - Kukkonen
The younger guys like playing with Hatcher and, let's face it, he knows all there is to know about playing defense. He'll have a positive effect on Parent. I think it's worth a shot. There's no way Hatcher since when healthy and this lineup seems like it has a shot at being very effective. If not, just try something else.
heh... i love how you just dropped the captain to the pressbox.
not going to happen, of course.
best case scenario:
Coburn-Timonen
Parent-Hatcher
Jones-Smith
of course, i'd rather put Kukkonen in there and let Smith heal his leg... but whatever.
heh... i love how you just dropped the captain to the pressbox.
not going to happen, of course.
best case scenario:
Coburn-Timonen
Parent-Hatcher
Jones-Smith
of course, i'd rather put Kukkonen in there and let Smith heal his leg... but whatever.
what i fear will happen:
Coburn-Timonen
Modry-Hatcher
Jones-Smith
Oh, in my mind I assumed that Smith would sit to heal his injuries... I forgot to type that... I'm in class at the moment so I have to somewhat pay attention.
heh... i love how you just dropped the what i fear will happen:
Coburn-Timonen
Modry-Hatcher
Jones-Smith
This just made my stomach turn.
Do you think Stevens is hearing anything from upper management on how he's handling the games? It's just weird when you watch national telecasts and the color guys don't have stuff to talk about you hear some interesting commentary on the Flyguys... I think it was Beezer (during an HDNet game) who was commenting on how awesome the Flyers PP had become and how Stevens has given Mullen all the credit on the PP's success. My point is, if the PP is one of the reasons the Flyers have turned heads/made a complete 180 from last year's disaster, what exactly is it that Stevens does for this team (other than the Calder Cup team kids 'like' him)?
oh my, could you imagine the score to that game. Average age on the ice: 36 and that would be the slowest defense ever. oh my god please dont let that happen.
You guys are all wrong....Stevens has been desperately trying to figure out how to fill the void left by Jim Vandermeer on the top pairing. Word is he's leaning toward joining the lineup as a player/coach. We will then see....
You guys are all wrong....Stevens has been desperately trying to figure out how to fill the void left by Jim Vandermeer on the top pairing. Word is he's leaning toward joining the lineup as a player/coach. We will then see....
Timonen-Stevens
Coburn-Moldy
Hatcher-Smith
You just made me look like an ass in class when I laughed.
so much so that they shipped of Vandermeer the day after Stevens went on a rant about how strong a player he was and the media was on a witch hunt after him.
Smith is a tough SOB, and the Captain. He is also playing hurt, and slower because he's hurt. I see Hatchers return as the perfect opportunity to rest Smith. If Hatcher can play this Sat. against the Isles and Smith sits that one out he could "rest" for 4 days between Thursdays TB game and Tuesday and Wednesdays TOR Home and Home.
Of course all this discussion is pointless because Johnny knows best.
