Oh you mean the screened goals that he is supposed to just magically see and stop....or the deflection goals where he is supposed to know where the puck is going to go and then save it....how about the goals where the defence has their heads up their ***** and allow opponents to walk in all alone or stand to the side of the net untouched so they can tap the puck in the net after Huet stopped the first 3 shots???
Are those the time you are talking about? Because I don't remember too many games in the past 3 years where Huet himself, has blown the game and lost it for the team.
why is after every loss we feel the need to trash a goalie and say lets give the other a shot?
why cant we say yes price had a horrible game...lets give him the next one and see if he can bounce back? if we lose the first game in the playoffs because he lets in a softie do you want to change goalies again? this is ridiculous. i think we should give halak one of the weekend games.
Because he doesn't want Price to be the goalie in Montreal. He was a Huet fan and is bitter about him leaving.
This comes back to this again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again.
Seems that Price's hole was pretty huge too last night.
Obviously your bitter bout the double standard that occured during Huet's last year in Montreal vis a vis Carey Price and hence your almost gleeful posts about Price not having his "A-game" last night. I happen to agree with you bout the double standard but so what...get off it already. Double standards abound all over the NHL in player evals and life in general. Huet had a nice run in Montreal but it was his missfortune that two more talented kids with better pedigre were waiting in the wings to replace him. And it didn't help Huet wanted his money so what was Gainey to do...eh? He sent him away and if it weren't for the fact Price is so darn talented, I'd be miffed as well if I were a Huet fan. But that's life...we move on. So now its time to support the teams decision to go with Price and stop with the foolish bitterness. Whats done is done and it looks like to any observer of the NHL, Price will likely end up being much better than Huet ever was.
Hopefully your not going to join in this BS Halak vs Price thing instead...you wouldn't do that...eh?.....lol
Yeah, he played good against a Devils team that can't score, a Hossa-less Thrashers team and a depleted Sabres squad.
Now he comes into San Jose, an elite team, and you see the result.
Not blaming it entirely on him, and I do want to see Halak get a chance.
Now I finally want to say it...SOFTIES.
Remember Huet anyone?
Wins are Wins. Between you Cristo and Puckhead I don't need to watch any comedy. You guys make me laugh with all the hate. Habs fans...HA!
why is after every loss we feel the need to trash a goalie and say lets give the other a shot?
why cant we say yes price had a horrible game...lets give him the next one and see if he can bounce back? if we lose the first game in the playoffs because he lets in a softie do you want to change goalies again? this is ridiculous. i think we should give halak one of the weekend games.
Because thats how it worked when Huet started a game and lost, all the Price fans would create a thread saying that Huet sucks, he lets in weak goals....give Price the #1 job ETC...ETC.
I'm just trying to suggest that the team does something smart by giving each goalie the same chances...thats all. I'm not picking one over the other, I'm just saying give them both a chance since they are both in the same situation. They are both young goalies fighting for the #1 job of the most storied franchise in NHL history.
Good answer....just completely avoid the topic and make wise cracks about drugs and alcohol.
Well I'm not drunk because I'm at work and I won't be getting stoned until after 5 when I get home.
If you want to voice your opinion about my posts, then follow along and stay with the conversation instead of just posting stupid little things that only you find funny!!!
I would love to see Halak get a chance, but I'd also like to see Carbo show some confidence in Price and allow him the opportunity to redeem himself. That's what you do with a number one.
If he has difficulty again, you give Halak the Saturday game.
This thread is foolish, and the poster Cristobal Huet is a hypocrite.
Price had a bad game, I don't think ANYONE can deny that. Did he get any help from his D? Nope, not really. Did he get any help from the refs? Nope, not really. Apparently it's ok to interfere with goalies.
Did people forget that Price robbed the Sharks THREE TIMES during a 5 on 3 kill? Was that fourth goal against Shelley weak? Yes it was, just like Huet's goal in game 6 of the PLAYOFFS, WHICH MADE US LOSE THE SERIES (this is to Huet the poster. Your hypocrisy is astounding. For Huet, the shot was deflected and he had no chance..for Price, it was weak? )
Price was CLEARLY off his game last night, and you could tell he was pissed off at the reffing. In fact, this is the only time I've ever seen Price pissed off during a game, and you can't blame him; Sharks were taking free shots at him and nothing was getting called, compounded with the fact that no one really stood up for him. Where were you last night Komi??
I think Price should start in Phoenix. He didn't have a great game but I think he needs it to get his confidence back. Halak will probably get the start and that's fine too.
Wins are Wins. Between you Cristo and Puckhead I don't need to watch any comedy. You guys make me laugh with all the hate. Habs fans...HA!
See....there is the double standard again!!!
Everybody can bash Huet when he played and it was fine, but bash Price and your not considered to be a Habs fan!!! Makes no sense at all!!!!
I'm a Habs fan and I will cheer for them no matter who is in the net...because thats what good fans do, but this forum is a place to voice your opinion and thats what I'm doing, it doesn't mean I'm less of a fan for hoping that Halak gets a fair shot too.
So what happens if Price stinks it up again against the Coyotes, and against LA, and Anaheim.....are we just supposed to keep going with him even though he isn't doing the job????
Thats why I'm saying that we need to give Halak the same opportunities that we give Price. They are both young, unproven goalies and we can't expect one guy or the other to just step up and lead the team. These 2 guys should be used as a tandem until one of them stands out and plays like the better goalie....and by that time it will be getting close to the playoffs and you make the decision to go with the hot hand.
Then next season you make the 2 of them compete for the #1 job for the first 20 games, both playing 10 games each.
I dunno my friend...first off, let me say this, I'm a longtime Rangers fan and if anyone can think negativly it is a Ranger fan..we've had 67 reasons to do it other than one magical year back in '94 . I happen to like Montreal quite a bit cause my fiance is from their and luv the passion with you Hab fans which is why I love your board. Oh and it helps that I have Higgins and both Price and Huet on my big $ fantasy team..
That being said, I'd think a bit more positive than you are thinking first off. Who's to say Price is going to stink up the joint vs the 'Yotes? Maybe he has a great game. Matter of fact, I'd think that likely. Even if he had a bad game again, you give Halak the start in LA and go right back to Price vs Anaheim. You have a great team here in Montreal and you've given yourself a bit of cushion even with a few bad games. I mean wouldn't you sign a check right now if you were guaranteed 4-5 pts on this road trip? There's was going to be a loss or two on this trip anyways...so you've got one now...big deal.
You say Price and Halak are unproven which for the most part is correct. Price though has been recieving his baptism by fire though this season and he for I'd say...90% of the time has come thru with solid performances. That's pretty good stuff from a 20 year old kid. IMO, you've got to have a #1 goalie heading down the stretch....you can't be wishy washy. Price is the guy at least for this season and Halak the backup. So accept it. I don't see what the big deal is to have it this way. And than I agree with you, see how it plays out in training camp next season but IMO, you have to have Halak clearly no doubt about it beat out Price in order for him to get split starts. If not, Price is the #1 next year as well and he gets #1 goalie playing time(60+ starts) and Halak the rest. But you don't start fooling around with this crap now heading into playoffs.
IMO, you play Price 12-13 of the remaining 16...head into the playoffs with Price leading the way and that's that. Next year is next year but Price leads the way now.
Everybody can bash Huet when he played and it was fine, but bash Price and your not considered to be a Habs fan!!! Makes no sense at all!!!!
I'm a Habs fan and I will cheer for them no matter who is in the net...because thats what good fans do, but this forum is a place to voice your opinion and thats what I'm doing, it doesn't mean I'm less of a fan for hoping that Halak gets a fair shot too.
That's fine, but asking for 4-5 games straight for Halak outright doesn't make sense. Yes, Price had 4 games in a row, but his first three were stellar - if Halak has a similar run, I have no problem going with the hot hand.
But the implication here is that Price was just gifted 4 games in a row, when it really was his play that kept him in the net. You don't just decide to grant 4-5 game stretches to goalies, you go game-to-game and make a decision based on what's best for the team, not for whether you love Price or Halak. Now that Price had a stinker, you give Halak the shot.
The only caveat I would add is that since Price is the titular #1 goalie, if Halak has a so-so game (i.e. 3 goals allowed in 24 shots or something) you go back to Price even if the Habs win it. If Price has that so-so game, you probably go back to Price unless it's a back-to-back night type of situation. I don't think that's unfair.
Everybody can bash Huet when he played and it was fine, but bash Price and your not considered to be a Habs fan!!! Makes no sense at all!!!!
I'm a Habs fan and I will cheer for them no matter who is in the net...because thats what good fans do, but this forum is a place to voice your opinion and thats what I'm doing, it doesn't mean I'm less of a fan for hoping that Halak gets a fair shot too.
No double standard here except in your mind. Hate is Hate. I was as surprised as anybody Cristo was traded. I figured he'd be the goto man and that was the end of it. Gainey thought different. I expect Halak will get a few starts before all is said and done this season. But I don't agree with all this bs about how Cristo was treated unfairly and everyone bashed him. Cristo had as many supporters as bashers so it was a wash. This entire thread is nonsense in my opinion.
I understand from the other thread your's bitter about the double standard that went on with Price and Huet. And yes, you are right that there was a double standard but that's life. No reason to have any type of controvesy as playoffs are just on the horizon.
Here's the fact: Price was left out to dry from my observations...defensman were horrible last night absolutaly abysmal....bottom line!. Did Carey have his best game? Absolutaly not. He seemed to be battling the puck at times and he gave up a couple of flukish type goals that normally don't occur. Here's another fact, on the other hand, he was stellar at times as well and kept his team in a game they for the most part had no business being in as IMO, Sharks outhustled and outplayed Habs pretty much the whole game. Price kept them in it especially on that 5 on 3. And so no biggie...just a game and though not Prices's best, IMO, you go right back with him versus Phoenix.
Price is the no doubt about it #1 and with a couple of days off, I think Carbo has to go right back with Price especially with back to backs on tap over the weekend vs LA and Anaheim. That's where you give Halak his first start....NOT vs Phoenix. You put Price right back in the net vs Yotes, show confidence in him and let him and the team redeem itself from a poor showing....its really that simple. True #1's get that start after a not so good game....Price deserves it. Halak gets his game vs LA.... I mean it really shouldn't be up for discussion that Price comes back right away vs Phoenix.
And I'll go one step further even if Halak plays well vs LA or shuts out LA, you go right back to Price vs Anaheim. That's the way it works with #1's vis a vis with his backup even one as talented as Halak. Its really not even debatable.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Great post. Agree 100% with your assessment.
Do you know what a #1 goalie is?
Did you know even Roy, Brodeur, Luongo,Kiprusoff have bad games too?
Not sure who you are referring to here, but I DO know what a #1 goalie is, we had one years ago, a great one actually.....his name was Patrick Roy and we would have had him a lot longer if the management knew a thing or 2 about hockey and dealing with NHL superstars that have big egos!!!!
Yes, even Roy, Luongo and Kiprusoff have bad games....I am a goalie myself and I know what its like to have a bad game....it happens and you just try to bounce back from it your next time out.
I never said we need to sit Price on the bench, I just suggested that we give Halak the same opportunity that we are giving Price...otherwise we'll have the whole Theodore/Garon situation all over again and end up keeping the wrong goalie.
Not sure who you are referring to here, but I DO know what a #1 goalie is, we had one years ago, a great one actually.....his name was Patrick Roy and we would have had him a lot longer if the management knew a thing or 2 about hockey and dealing with NHL superstars that have big egos!!!!
Yes, even Roy, Luongo and Kiprusoff have bad games....I am a goalie myself and I know what its like to have a bad game....it happens and you just try to bounce back from it your next time out.
I never said we need to sit Price on the bench, I just suggested that we give Halak the same opportunity that we are giving Price...otherwise we'll have the whole Theodore/Garon situation all over again and end up keeping the wrong goalie.
Halak isnt getting a chance to be #1
Its very clear that it belongs to Price, their is no way Halak gets 5 starts in a row so forget about it.
Good answer....just completely avoid the topic and make wise cracks about drugs and alcohol.
Well I'm not drunk because I'm at work and I won't be getting stoned until after 5 when I get home.
If you want to voice your opinion about my posts, then follow along and stay with the conversation instead of just posting stupid little things that only you find funny!!!
Arguing with you is like arguing with a rock. It's useless and senseless.
I dunno my friend...first off, let me say this, I'm a longtime Rangers fan and if anyone can think negativly it is a Ranger fan..we've had 67 reasons to do it other than one magical year back in '94 . I happen to like Montreal quite a bit cause my fiance is from their and luv the passion with you Hab fans which is why I love your board. Oh and it helps that I have Higgins and both Price and Huet on my big $ fantasy team..
That being said, I'd think a bit more positive than you are thinking first off. Who's to say Price is going to stink up the joint vs the 'Yotes? Maybe he has a great game. Matter of fact, I'd think that likely. Even if he had a bad game again, you give Halak the start in LA and go right back to Price vs Anaheim. You have a great team here in Montreal and you've given yourself a bit of cushion even with a few bad games. I mean wouldn't you sign a check right now if you were guaranteed 4-5 pts on this road trip? There's was going to be a loss or two on this trip anyways...so you've got one now...big deal.
You say Price and Halak are unproven which for the most part is correct. Price though has been recieving his baptism by fire though this season and he for I'd say...90% of the time has come thru with solid performances. That's pretty good stuff from a 20 year old kid. IMO, you've got to have a #1 goalie heading down the stretch....you can't be wishy washy. Price is the guy at least for this season and Halak the backup. So accept it. I don't see what the big deal is to have it this way. And than I agree with you, see how it plays out in training camp next season but IMO, you have to have Halak clearly no doubt about it beat out Price in order for him to get split starts. If not, Price is the #1 next year as well and he gets #1 goalie playing time(60+ starts) and Halak the rest. But you don't start fooling around with this crap now heading into playoffs.
IMO, you play Price 12-13 of the remaining 16...head into the playoffs with Price leading the way and that's that. Next year is next year but Price leads the way now.
But see your missing my point. Why did we just hand the #1 job to Price? He never beat anybody out for the job and Halak played as good or better last year then Price has this year, so why do we just automatically push Halak to the back burner?
But see your missing my point. Why did we just hand the #1 job to Price? He never beat anybody out for the job and Halak played as good or better last year then Price has this year, so why do we just automatically push Halak to the back burner?
Thats what I wanna know.
Because the Montreal Canadiens organization have invested more into Price, it's that simple.
But see your missing my point. Why did we just hand the #1 job to Price? He never beat anybody out for the job and Halak played as good or better last year then Price has this year, so why do we just automatically push Halak to the back burner?
Thats what I wanna know.
Ask Gainey. He's the one that gave the #1 to Price. Price didn't sneak up and steal his position.
