That was exactly my point except that you explained it better.We have a lot of young small sized talents , i don't see why we shouldn't take a chance of drafting a potential power forward.I don't even remember when was the last time that we drafted a big player, i think it almost go back to John Leclair .I may be wrong but he is the last guy that i remember.After that we always drafted small sized players like Ribs , Perezhogin , Kastsitsyn , Higgins ect ect ect.
We drafted tons big projects throughout the 90s. Look at how many of them made it to the NHL considering you haven't even heard of them... It is way too much of a gamble. BPA is the way to go. If the BPA happens to be big and gritty then great...
We drafted tons big projects throughout the 90s. Look at how many of them made it to the NHL considering you haven't even heard of them... It is way too much of a gamble. BPA is the way to go. If the BPA happens to be big and gritty then great...
Excuse my ignorance but can you name a few plz ???
I don't remember the Habs drafting a potential power forward in the first 10 rounds in the 90's but then again , i don't remember each 1st round drafts for each year so like i said in my previous post , maybe i'm wrong.
im stickin with mike green!
man that kids good
if not him..
someone big and strong for the top lines with a mean streak fits perfectly.. a power forward type of guy basically
Green is a WHL prospect. Look at all the bad luck we have had with first round WHL players before? Matt Higgins,Terry Ryan, Bilodeau, Pederson, Vallis, Stevenson, etc...
If I was Montreal, I would steer clear of the WHL.
Excuse my ignorance but can you name a few plz ???
I don't remember the Habs drafting a potential power forward in the first 10 rounds in the 90's but then again , i don't remember each 1st round drafts for each year so like i said in my previous post , maybe i'm wrong.
First rounders: Jason Ward, Matt Higgins, Terry Ryan, Brad Brown, Turner Stevenson
All those wasted on big players that never became a force and some of them never made it to the NHL.
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Reason: ERR, Gigerly beat me to it! Didn't look if someone replied before making my own post.
First rounders: Jason Ward, Matt Higgins, Terry Ryan, Brad Brown, Turner Stevenson
All those wasted on big players that never became a force and some of them never made it to the NHL.
I see BUT
Jason Ward : He is slowly but surely starting to become a decent NHL player.He will never be an all star but he is not that bad imo.
Matt Higgins : I don't consider that guy a power forward.I just checked his profile and he his 6,2 186 lbs which is taller then Bulis but a lot lighter then him (Bulis is 200 lbs) for that reason , i don't think he fit in the PF category.
Terry Ryan :
Turner Stevenson : Well , you are right there , he was a bust but he still won 2 stanley cup with NJ when you think about it.
Also , let's not forget that most of them were drafted by Rejean Houle and right now we have Andre Savard , the man that was a big part in the construction of the Sens so i have a lot more faith in him than i had with Houle.
So in the end , i still think that we should take a chance
Green is a WHL prospect. Look at all the bad luck we have had with first round WHL players before? Matt Higgins,Terry Ryan, Bilodeau, Pederson, Vallis, Stevenson, etc...
If I was Montreal, I would steer clear of the WHL.
You didn't have success because you had but ugly scouts. Savard in charge of drafting and you will do well in any area. If you can get Green you do not stay clear of him.
If Rimouski Oceanic's D Michal Sersen is available in the 2nd or 3rd round I would love to see him being drafted by MTL. He's our best player after Crosby.
Yesterday I was BG for a day - trying to figure out who I would be picking at the #17 spot in the 1st round, 47 in 2nd, 77 & 83rd (sj) in 3rd, and 93 (chi) & 107 in the 4th. Barring trade to move up or down, and regardless of other teams drafting needs, I was looking for BPA while keeping an eye on Central Scouting lists plus any info I've gleaned along the way.
It went 1-Ovechkin 2-Malkin 3-Olesz 4-Barker 5-Schwarz 6-Wolski 7-Schremp 8-Montoya 9-Tukonen 10-McGrath 11-Meszaros 12 Dubnyk 13- O'Neill 14-Lisin 15-Stafford 16-Smid Okay, who's the BPA - you're on the clock?
Yea right, if he isn't gone by mid 2nd round I will be really surprised, he is the 4th best dmen in the draft IMO. Barker, Green, ONeill, Sersen.....I gloated about him enough and man does he have a canon.
Who gives a crap where the player we pick is from. But Gainey and Savard will pick who they think is the best fit for us, not where they are from (ROLLEYES)
For the draft, I like Picard, but I really like what I hear about Green and will get to watch him play in the near future. My guess is that Stafford, O'Neil, Thelan, and Pineault, all will not be in the draft, but it's a guess only, as they will have to leave the NCAA if they are in the draft.
From Sweden one guy that has my interestes is Fredick Naslund, a big LW who's being compared to Sundin (can't say haven't seen him) but Fransson or Hedman should be considered as well.
From the NCAA, there's a guy from Brown (Inachuk, I know I spelled it wrong) who looks good.
Laliberte from the Rocket may be worth a shot if he's around in the 3rd round (we have 2 3rd's this year) Pohl, although small may be worth a shot as well but I would think he is gone by the 3rd round. I still have a lot of research to do for the draft, but this is what I've come up with so far, but I usually don't focus on the draft till much later in the season.
Also , let's not forget that most of them were drafted by Rejean Houle and right now we have Andre Savard , the man that was a big part in the construction of the Sens so i have a lot more faith in him than i had with Houle.
Savard is good because he looks at skill before anything else. His technique involves always drafting the best player available without looking at the teams current needs. That way you get many good NHL players. The odds are that some of them can even develop into stars. Eventually you get a very lopsided team. You get problems like having way too many RW and not enough LW. Because you have so many skilled RW, you trade some for those missing LW. That is how great teams like Ottawa and Colorado were built. In the end this is the surest way to build a team. You are less likely to waste picks on garbage.
The same season Houle drafted Ward for size, Savard drafted Hossa for skill (BPA). Who is considered the NHL caliber power forward now?
All this to say that Savard would never draft a big player if a more skilled but smaller player is available. Of course, finding a big skilled player would be great...
with the "profondeur" (sorry don't know the word) of the Hull Olympiques, Pohl is playing on a 4th line so his numbers doesn't show what he really can do on the ice
I heard that Rotislav Olesz might be a concern for some GM'S and could drop out of the top 10 because of his "concussion problem" .
I would be surprised if that happens sinc ehe is such an amazing talent but people had him rated at #5 before the WJC so you never know...
Now some of you may think, this guy is really amazing and could be the next PF but do we need anotehr "potentiel health hazard" like Kostsitsyn???
Anyways, let's say he goes 10....and we finish like 13th pick...we can move up to grab a potentiel guy by including a guy like Plekanec who I don't think has a future here in Montreal...
In the 2nd round, I am looking at 6'5 -6'6 Bruce Graham who could put the puck in the net and if he learns how to play physical then Look out!
I am very high on getting another 1st or 2nd round pick from another team so we can draft a few more bodies this year to continue our rebuilding process.
I don't mind on what race we draft...but we need the BPA.... If it comes down to 2 then take the Canadien or American one instead of the Europeans since we have so much of them but they are very talented hockey players so hey!.
i know bruce's big brother
if he is anything like mike, then he will be a good guy to have around the team, a guy who gets along with everyone.
the hands must run in that family though because the 2 of them can fire the puck some fierce
@ #17 or thereabouts, if still available, I'd (being BG) seriously be looking toward Andrew Ladd. 6'2 200 lbs. LW who by all accounts is 1) hard along the boards 2) drives the net 3) hits big. A potential PF. It addresses size and toughness needs, as well as bolstering a fairly thin left side - prospectwise.
@ #17 or thereabouts, if still available, I'd (being BG) seriously be looking toward Andrew Ladd. 6'2 200 lbs. LW who by all accounts is 1) hard along the boards 2) drives the net 3) hits big. A potential PF. It addresses size and toughness needs, as well as bolstering a fairly thin left side - prospectwise.
.I may be wrong but he is the last guy that i remember.After that we always drafted small sized players like Ribs , Perezhogin , Kastsitsyn , Higgins ect ect ect.
