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03-14-2008, 07:09 PM
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OT: Is Bob McKenzie losing credibility?

A few weeks ago he said that Cam Ward would be more or less a lock to be the 3rd goaltender for Canada's Olympic team.

Yesterday he sided with Chris Pronger saying that there was not intent to injure Kesler. Given that you can't prove what is going through a player's mind and taking into account some of Pronger's prior actions, it makes you wonder.

Most of the time McKenzie is insightful but he always errs on the side of being poltically correct. And he will always side with the veterans if they are a long way past their prime and clearly in a decline.

I've always like McKenzie but he certainly isn't an agent for change.

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03-14-2008, 07:12 PM
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no, he is not losing cred.

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03-14-2008, 07:27 PM
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Broduer, Luongo, Turco, Giguere, 3 of those 4, maybe some other nominees would more thna likely be team Canada's goalie.

Ward was playing good, so he probably thought he was back to how he was during Carolina's playoff run.

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03-14-2008, 07:28 PM
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no, he said things that at both times he believed to be true....

He like all of us, and the league itself had not seen the new angle of the pronger video released today...

He may have exagerrated a bit on the Ward case, but he was playing well.... tonight of course is classic HFboards what have you done for me lately? one bad game approach...

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A few weeks ago he said that Cam Ward would be more or less a lock to be the 3rd goaltender for Canada's Olympic team.

Yesterday he sided with Chris Pronger saying that there was not intent to injure Kesler. Given that you can't prove what is going through a player's mind and taking into account some of Pronger's prior actions, it makes you wonder.

Most of the time McKenzie is insightful but he always errs on the side of being poltically correct. And he will always side with the veterans if they are a long way past their prime and clearly in a decline.

I've always like McKenzie but he certainly isn't an agent for change.
He didn't side with Pronger, he said there wasn't sufficient video evidence to prove intent, and he was right.

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03-14-2008, 08:33 PM
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It takes a real man to admit he made a mistake, which is more than I can say for most people on these boards.

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03-14-2008, 08:37 PM
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Ugh, that has nothing to do with credibility, you just disagree.

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He didn't side with Pronger, he said there wasn't sufficient video evidence to prove intent, and he was right.
And when he saw the clearer video he changed his stance and said a suspension was warranted.

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So much jibba jabba.


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A few weeks ago he said that Cam Ward would be more or less a lock to be the 3rd goaltender for Canada's Olympic team.

Yesterday he sided with Chris Pronger saying that there was not intent to injure Kesler. Given that you can't prove what is going through a player's mind and taking into account some of Pronger's prior actions, it makes you wonder.

Most of the time McKenzie is insightful but he always errs on the side of being poltically correct. And he will always side with the veterans if they are a long way past their prime and clearly in a decline.

I've always like McKenzie but he certainly isn't an agent for change.
I don't really respect him. It started earlier in the season when the habs were playing the flyers I think, and hamrlik (I think) got a penalty shot. Of course it was a terrible shot penatly shot attempt, and bob mckenzie said that he should have faked an injury, thus allowing another player (aka a good forward) to take the penalty shot in his place. I couldn't believe that. I mean, we frown upon diving, and here a broadcaster is saying the player should have done it.

After this, I had no respect for him.

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03-14-2008, 09:31 PM
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Broduer, Luongo, Turco, Giguere, 3 of those 4, maybe some other nominees would more thna likely be team Canada's goalie.

Ward was playing good, so he probably thought he was back to how he was during Carolina's playoff run.
Me and a friend went over possible net-minders for Team Canada in 2010. We came up with the following list;

1. Roberto Luongo
2. Martin Brodeur
3. Carey Price
4. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
5. Marty Turco
6. Cam Ward
7. Jose Theodore
8. Pascal Leclaire

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Me and a friend went over possible net-minders for Team Canada in 2010. We came up with the following list;

1. Roberto Luongo
2. Martin Brodeur
3. Carey Price
4. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
5. Marty Turco
6. Cam Ward
7. Jose Theodore
8. Pascal Leclaire
was brisebois on your defence list?

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A few weeks ago he said that Cam Ward would be more or less a lock to be the 3rd goaltender for Canada's Olympic team.

Yesterday he sided with Chris Pronger saying that there was not intent to injure Kesler. Given that you can't prove what is going through a player's mind and taking into account some of Pronger's prior actions, it makes you wonder.

Most of the time McKenzie is insightful but he always errs on the side of being poltically correct. And he will always side with the veterans if they are a long way past their prime and clearly in a decline.

I've always like McKenzie but he certainly isn't an agent for change.
I absolutly agree with what he said. I posted it during the hysteria the other day...99% missed the scisor hold by kesler on the play. I dont think it compares to the other incidents people mentioned before.

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Me and a friend went over possible net-minders for Team Canada in 2010. We came up with the following list;

1. Roberto Luongo
2. Martin Brodeur
3. Carey Price
4. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
5. Marty Turco
6. Cam Ward
7. Jose Theodore
8. Pascal Leclaire
Giguere should be in the number 3 spot, Carey Price hasnt won a Cup yet.

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oh noz, I disagee with what Bob said, he must be losing it..!

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How come people dismiss Ward? He's a Conn Smythe/Cup winner. Sure he's not the greatest during the regular season, but I'd feel really comfortable with him in net leading Canada in crunch time.

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How come people dismiss Ward? He's a Conn Smythe/Cup winner. Sure he's not the greatest during the regular season, but I'd feel really comfortable with him in net leading Canada in crunch time.

Personally I wouldn't dismiss Cam Ward, but I wouldn't have him in my top 3.

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03-15-2008, 07:16 AM
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How come people dismiss Ward? He's a Conn Smythe/Cup winner. Sure he's not the greatest during the regular season, but I'd feel really comfortable with him in net leading Canada in crunch time.
Difference is, Ward is totally different now.

He's having another pretty mediocre season and in no way would I feel confident with him at all in net for Canada.

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1. Roberto Luongo
2. Martin Brodeur
3. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
4. Pascal Leclaire
5. Carey Price
6. Marty Turco
7. Jose Theodore
8. Cam Ward

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Difference is, Ward is totally different now.

He's having another pretty mediocre season and in no way would I feel confident with him at all in net for Canada.
Its a 2 week tournament, which is most of the time decided by which goalie gets hot during that time.

Ward has proven he can raise his game when it counts in the most critical of games, having him on the short list is nothing to laugh at.

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I don't really respect him. It started earlier in the season when the habs were playing the flyers I think, and hamrlik (I think) got a penalty shot. Of course it was a terrible shot penatly shot attempt, and bob mckenzie said that he should have faked an injury, thus allowing another player (aka a good forward) to take the penalty shot in his place. I couldn't believe that. I mean, we frown upon diving, and here a broadcaster is saying the player should have done it.

After this, I had no respect for him.
And yet your poster id is named after the one of the biggest divers in the game. So much for your credibility........

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Bob McKenzie is #1 in credibility for the 25th consecutive year. I predict he'll make it to 50 straight, then retire.

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Broduer, Luongo, Turco, Giguere, 3 of those 4, maybe some other nominees would more thna likely be team Canada's goalie.

Ward was playing good, so he probably thought he was back to how he was during Carolina's playoff run.
I'm not sure if you take Brodeur, he'll be what, 37 by then? That's what killed them in 2006, they had too many old geezers. Take the younger players.

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Giguere should be in the number 3 spot, Carey Price hasnt won a Cup yet.
It all depends if they make him reduce those gigantic pads that make him look like a refrigerator on skates...

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