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Stafford brings a lot more to the table than him. But still, it looks like Carter is a sure-fire 100-point player.
What a STRANGE post. A sure fire 100 pt player is pretty "god like". What are we going to have this year 2 or 3?
I don't think he is a surefire 100 pt player. But he has gotten VERY good defensively which you wouldn't know if you don't watch most of the Flyers games. so he does bring more than just offense.
What a STRANGE post. A sure fire 100 pt player is pretty "god like". What are we going to have this year 2 or 3?
I don't think he is a surefire 100 pt player. But he has gotten VERY good defensively which you wouldn't know if you don't watch most of the Flyers games. so he does bring more than just offense.
you misunderstood me. what I was saying is just that Flyers fans overrate him. a lot. he hasn't proven anything yet.
it would be wise for the flyers to trade carter if they can't reach an extension.. with the cap going up to potentially 54-55 million it will push the compensation figures up and a 5 million offer sheet would only cost a 1st,2nd,3rd.. i dont think the flyers could afford to pay carter 5 mill for multiple years and have three centers accounting for a third of their salary cap
If Carter is so great you would think that with all the other hot shot players--Briere, Richards, Gagne(injured), Coburn etc etc that Philly would be running away with their division. Carter had a mini hot streak--until then Flyer fans were down on him. Why would a team give up a lot for him when they can get him as a free agent? Do you think Carter will sign for less because Philly traded him? If Carter does not agree to sign why would a team give up starters and first round picks? The recieving team will have to pay the going rate or lose him to free agency--pretty risky trade unless Carter agrees to take less than he would get in an offer sheet. Any trade only makes sense for Philly--and only if they get more in assets than they would get for an offer sheet situation....
If the Flyers dont think they can match a offer sheet then they will try to trade him for more then they would get as compensation - this doesnt even have to be much more but more is better then less. The team that would want him and gets him is going to have the cap room - if another team gives a offer sheet then the team will just have to match, but I doubt that would happen anyways because once the trade would happen all the other teams would know that they wouldent just let him walk so the attempt would be useless and only piss other managers off. If the team that wants him doesnt trade for him then they would no longer have control of the situation and chances are good that another team would get him. Anyways the team that wants him would give up what it wants which to them might very well be better then the picks and the Flyers would get for him what they want which to them might be better then the picks - plus the team gets control of the situation.
There is absolutely zero chance that the Flyers let Carter walk on an offer sheet that brings less than two 1sts a 2nd and a 3rd as compensation.
The Flyers probably cant match and he doesnt even fit in to their plans. Also I doubt anyone would be willing to even pay him over 5 mill to give Flyers 2-1sts, 2nd and a 3rd. So as I see it the Flyers have one option - trade him to maximize the return - which I doubt Flyer fans will be happy with.
Stafford brings a lot more to the table than him. But still, it looks like Carter is a sure-fire 100-point player.
Really? I am sure Stafford will score 30 goals this season.
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Originally Posted by TVanek26
People who don't know the correct info shouldn't talk buddy.
Carter's averaged more IT then Vanek this and last season bro.And he hasn't even cracked 50 points yet....Vanek almost scored 50 GOALS last season
Carter's never outscored Vanek and never will.I thought Vanek had a poor rookie post-season campaign but atleast his was better then 0-0-0 in 6 games to go with a great -4
If your gonna try and talk **** then make sure you know what your talking about you clown.
Do you really want to compare center to wing? Who cares about last season? Last season was the worse season in Flyers history.
Well they both scored 28 goals this season and one of them makes 7M. We have 3rd line center who may score 30 goals. Who is talking ***** now?
The Flyers probably cant match and he doesnt even fit in to their plans. Also I doubt anyone would be willing to even pay him over 5 mill to give Flyers 2-1sts, 2nd and a 3rd. So as I see it the Flyers have one option - trade him to maximize the return - which I doubt Flyer fans will be happy with.
If no one is willing to give Carter 5M and 2-1sts, 2nd and 3rd. Fine. Carter is still RFA.
I think we will and should match anything under 4m. Matching 5M would be tough. Doable but tough.
There is no scenario in which the Flyers can't match. If they want to they can make all the cap space they could possibly need. The question is at just what point does it become smarter to let him walk and spend that money on a defenseman. He gets signed for sure unless someone gives him an offer sheet where the compensation would be in the two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd or four 1sts brackets. However, somewhere around 5.33m per I think it probably makes more sense to take the picks and use the cap space to take a run a signing one of Weber/Bouwmeester/Suter/Campbell.
you misunderstood me. what I was saying is just that Flyers fans overrate him. a lot. he hasn't proven anything yet.
Stafford has tons of potential too.
He must've proven a lot to you because I've watched him his whole career and I've never believed he'll be a 100 point guy. He's a trigger man and may score 40. 100 points is a stretch.
He must've proven a lot to you because I've watched him his whole career and I've never believed he'll be a 100 point guy. He's a trigger man and may score 40. 100 points is a stretch.
100 is a stretch since he doesn't see enough PP time. But if he were to somehow break into the top PP unit he would be a consistent 80 point, 40 goal guy.
He must've proven a lot to you because I've watched him his whole career and I've never believed he'll be a 100 point guy. He's a trigger man and may score 40. 100 points is a stretch.
