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03-18-2008, 12:57 AM
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Flames' "Group 6" UFAs

From the CBA:

"(c) Group 6 Free Agents.
(i) Means any Player who is age 25 or older who has completed three
(3) or more professional seasons, whose SPC has expired and: (i)
in the case of a Player other than a goaltender, has played less than
80 NHL Games, or (ii) in the case of a goaltender, has played less
than 28 NHL Games (for the purpose of this definition, a
goaltender must have played a minimum of thirty (30) minutes in
an NHL Game to register a game played). For the purposes of the
foregoing, the term professional season shall: (A) for a Player aged
18 or 19, mean any season in which such Player plays in eleven
(11) or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season
and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff
games, and games played in any European professional league,
while under an SPC), and (B) for a Player aged 20 or older, mean
any season in which such Player plays in one or more Professional
Games (including NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor
league regular season and playoff games, and games played in any
European professional league, while under an SPC)."


Didn't really realize it until jsut now but that would mean Eric Nystrom and Curtis McElhinney will both be UFAs in the summer, as well as Brent Krahn.

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yeah but they wont cost much money and they'll probably want to stay here..

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I hope we re-sign CMac and Nystrom.

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I hope we re-sign CMac and Nystrom.
I second that....I think Krahn's chances with the team have run out.

While CUJO has been decent, I wouldn't mind seeing McElhinney get another crack at backing-up kipper next season, though obviously Keenan didnt feel he was ready for the job this year.

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I second that....I think Krahn's chances with the team have run out.

While CUJO has been decent, I wouldn't mind seeing McElhinney get another crack at backing-up kipper next season, though obviously Keenan didnt feel he was ready for the job this year.
Ditto. Bring back CMAC as the backup and Ny on the third line. I like Cujo but not for that amount of money.

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yeah, I noticed that at NHLnumbers.com as well
should be an interesting offseason

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I too would like to see Nystrom and McElhinney re-signed.

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yeah but they wont cost much money and they'll probably want to stay here..
Why? Because they get no game time and development at an NHL level in a system that is backed up with goalie talent and has a number one starter that plays 70+ games/yr signed for several years?

If CUJO stays and I am an of our young goalies, I would want out.

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Why? Because they get no game time and development at an NHL level in a system that is backed up with goalie talent and has a number one starter that plays 70+ games/yr signed for several years?

If CUJO stays and I am an of our young goalies, I would want out.
Because it guarantees you a job. If McElhinney leaves, he can't guarantee himself another AHL job, yet alone a back-up slot. If he's offered a contract, he'll stay.

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Because it guarantees you a job. If McElhinney leaves, he can't guarantee himself another AHL job, yet alone a back-up slot. If he's offered a contract, he'll stay.
He is a former AHL all star who is having another good season this year. He would get a contract at least at the AHL level should he not sign with the Flames without question. He has, at least at the AHL level, has proven himself. There is potentiall a team that would offer him a 1 way deal, or at least a team with less goaltending depth that would offer him a contract. Not guarantee, but i wouldn't be suprised if they have trouble singing Cmac.
Nystrom however is not in the same situation. Hes proven himself at the NHL level, but not enough to warrant a 1 way deal from, IMO, any team in the NHlL. so unless he has something against the Flames I don't see why he woudln't sign. He has an equal chance of playing here as he does for a different organization.

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would nystrom resign here if the islanders offered him a contract for the same amount (or slightly more) than offered by the flames?

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I would think Nystrom stays because he can be a regular here and the organization was very patient in his development - which took so long and he doesn't seem to have any hands. I do like the kid as a buzzsaw, hitter, fighters, penalty killer and defensive forward. He also borders on the edge of cockyness/confidence.

Why would he go to NY and live under his father's shadow - literally?

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I second that....I think Krahn's chances with the team have run out.

While CUJO has been decent, I wouldn't mind seeing McElhinney get another crack at backing-up kipper next season, though obviously Keenan didnt feel he was ready for the job this year.
I was suprised Krahn was re-signed last season...I'm pretty sure both McElhinney and Nystrom will be brought back next year....

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I'm not sure we'll be able to keep McElhinney. I'm one of those who say that he never really got a fair shake with the Flames and I'm leaning towards the opinion that he woudn't get a fair shake from the Flames next season either

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I predict the nut show on long island (Wang & Snow) sign Nystrom to a one way deal to help with fan/team identity.

Sutter doesn't kiss unproven players' ***** (Re: Giordano) so Nystrom will hit the open market for a one way deal and will get it. Kiss him goodbye............

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Because it guarantees you a job. If McElhinney leaves, he can't guarantee himself another AHL job, yet alone a back-up slot. If he's offered a contract, he'll stay.
Like Cross said, it guarantees him a job. The downside is that job probably has no room for advancement unless the Flames restructure their goalie situations.

If I'm McElhinney, the only way I stay is if I get a guarantee at some ice time at the NHL level. That means no Joseph. That also means if a team that doesnt have several other very good prospects in the fold offers me a job, I take it. The Flames barely have enough room in their goalie system to develop goalies at the AHL level, let alone the NHL level.

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Like Cross said, it guarantees him a job. The downside is that job probably has no room for advancement unless the Flames restructure their goalie situations.

If I'm McElhinney, the only way I stay is if I get a guarantee at some ice time at the NHL level. That means no Joseph. That also means if a team that doesnt have several other very good prospects in the fold offers me a job, I take it. The Flames barely have enough room in their goalie system to develop goalies at the AHL level, let alone the NHL level.
Cujo is what 40? I think he's had enough this season or next, at least with the Flames. IF McElhinney leaves, he's not getting a one-way contract as he yet to win a NHL game. He would be looking at a two-way contract, where his position is not going to be any better than with the Flames.

Likelihood is that Cujo won't be resigned and McElhinney will resign to get another shot at the back-up job. After a few good years as Kipper's back-up, he can then think about leaving for a shot a starting job elsewhere.

Put yourself in the player's shoes, this ain't NHL 08, these are real people who are looking for security and some stability. Unless, he really hates it in Omaha, he won't leave for no reason (or to attain a back-up job that is attainable in Calgary).

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