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03-26-2008, 07:08 AM
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Jakob Markstrom VS Harri Sateri

Who is a better Goaltender right now. Who has more Potential for greatness? I've heard that Markstrom could be one of the best Goaltending prospects ever from Sweden and that Sateri could be better than Kari Lehtonen? Not sure about those comments though just what someone told me.

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03-26-2008, 07:42 AM
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Isn't Markstrom backstopping Brynäs in Kval-Serien at the time, and doing a good job of it?
If it really is him, he might be a #1 in Elitserien next year...

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03-26-2008, 07:51 AM
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I just thought if both Markstrom and Sateri were that good they would definately be 1st round picks. They still could be, but from most of the reports and rankings for the 2008 draft that I have seen they seem to have these guys going late 1st round or 2nd round.

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03-26-2008, 07:54 AM
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and that Sateri could be better than Kari Lehtonen? Not sure about those comments though just what someone told me.
You have heard wrong then. Or some1 have been bs'ing you. Säteri is good prospect, but nothing to compare with Lehtonen.

And can't say much about comparing them. Prolly Makström would be first choise now for most of people just because he is getting playing time in seniors. Badly for Säteri Finland have a lot better goaltending situation than Sweden does, so there is a lot better competition.

Säteri should be 2-3 rounder, with potential to be NHL-goalie, even starter. But not star.

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03-26-2008, 08:00 AM
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You have heard wrong then. Or some1 have been bs'ing you. Säteri is good prospect, but nothing to compare with Lehtonen.

And can't say much about comparing them. Prolly Makström would be first choise now for most of people just because he is getting playing time in seniors. Badly for Säteri Finland have a lot better goaltending situation than Sweden does, so there is a lot better competition.

Säteri should be 2-3 rounder, with potential to be NHL-goalie, even starter. But not star.
Markstrom will go higher, maybe first round but that's not because of goaltrending situation in Sweden.
Main reasons:
1.You're right about goaltrending situation, but it's not about Sweden, more about Markstrom's team(Brynas). They don't have good goaltrenders, and 17 y.o. Markstrom is best they have. No matter how good he is, that doesn't show the team from good side.
2.VERY important reason: Sateri is late 89, Markstrom is 90. That means that scouts will see Jacob at U18 WJC.
3.Size. Sateri isn't small(6'0) but Markstrom is younger and 6'4 already.

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03-26-2008, 08:06 AM
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Harri Sateri because of his name.

Serisouly though, how is this kid not going to be a great goalie with a name like that.

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03-26-2008, 08:09 AM
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You have heard wrong then. Or some1 have been bs'ing you. Säteri is good prospect, but nothing to compare with Lehtonen.

And can't say much about comparing them. Prolly Makström would be first choise now for most of people just because he is getting playing time in seniors. Badly for Säteri Finland have a lot better goaltending situation than Sweden does, so there is a lot better competition.

Säteri should be 2-3 rounder, with potential to be NHL-goalie, even starter. But not star.
Yeah thats what I figured. If Sateri was even on the same level as Lehtonen he would be a top 5 pick for sure. It's a buddy of mine he always get overly excited about goaltenders because he is one. You should hear him talk about Maxim Clermont and Roy-Bellevance he swears these 2 are like Patrick Roy.

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Markstrom. They are both arguably great but Markstrom has more star potential

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I think Sateri is better now, and will be better in the future..

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Jacob Markström is the best Swedish goalie prospect since Pelle Lindberg. Period.

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Jacob Markström is the best Swedish goalie prospect since Pelle Lindberg. Period.
Wow! Thats a bold statement. If your serious I hope your right. Does he compare to any present goalies?

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Harri Sateri because of his name.

Serisouly though, how is this kid not going to be a great goalie with a name like that.
Whats so great about his name?

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Jacob Markström is the best Swedish goalie prospect since Pelle Lindberg. Period.
seriously?

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seriously?
Actually thats not the 1st time I have heard that

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Actually thats not the 1st time I have heard that
dont you think its a bit early to say he is a better prospect then Lundqvist was?

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Markstrom will go higher, maybe first round but that's not because of goaltrending situation in Sweden.
Main reasons:
1.You're right about goaltrending situation, but it's not about Sweden, more about Markstrom's team(Brynas). They don't have good goaltrenders, and 17 y.o. Markstrom is best they have. No matter how good he is, that doesn't show the team from good side.
2.VERY important reason: Sateri is late 89, Markstrom is 90. That means that scouts will see Jacob at U18 WJC.
3.Size. Sateri isn't small(6'0) but Markstrom is younger and 6'4 already.
You are right. Tho the point was still that Markström will get more hype because of situation in his team/league, while Säteri won't get and ppl can just say "he can't be so good since he is still playing in juniors" etc. Didn't say anything about Markström skills, just that situation is heavily favouring him over Säteri not matter what kind of skills they do have.

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dont you think its a bit early to say he is a better prospect then Lundqvist was?
I never said that

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Jacob Markström is the best Swedish goalie prospect since Pelle Lindberg. Period.
Way to bold statement!

Markström have to be great in the U18 WJC in order to make the first round. I think he has that potential but i don't see any scouts taking a goalie in round one, but i hope i'm wrong.

Next season he's going to be the starter for his swedish team Brynas and should also be the starter in the WJC-20.

He could be up their with Lundqvist in a few years but give him some time. As we all know young goalies have their ups and downs.

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I never said that
I know.. I was just asking..

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Way to bold statement!

Markström have to be great in the U18 WJC in order to make the first round. I think he has that potential but i don't see any scouts taking a goalie in round one, but i hope i'm wrong.

Next season he's going to be the starter for his swedish team Brynas and should also be the starter in the WJC-20.

He could be up their with Lundqvist in a few years but give him some time. As we all know young goalies have their ups and downs.
I wish. Because Owuya easily can lead Sweden to relegation round.

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I know.. I was just asking..
Oh I dont know. I've never saw him play. That's why I was asking how good he really is?

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Oh I dont know. I've never saw him play. That's why I was asking how good he really is?
I have only seen him one time.. and he looked very good.. but its to soon to compare him to Lundqvist.. I consider Enroth a better prospect then him too... Markstrom needs to prove that he can be a #1 goalie in the SEL before he can be compared to him...

He is a good prospect for sure.. but he has a long way to go...

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To be honest, Enroth is not even close. Markström is proving himself right now. It takes someone special to handle the stress his club is under now and he manages it just fine.

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I have only seen him one time.. and he looked very good.. but its to soon to compare him to Lundqvist.. I consider Enroth a better prospect then him too... Markstrom needs to prove that he can be a #1 goalie in the SEL before he can be compared to him...

He is a good prospect for sure.. but he has a long way to go...
IMo Markstrom is better than Enroth was at this age. Maybe even better than Enroth is 2007/07 season.

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IMo Markstrom is better than Enroth was at this age. Maybe even better than Enroth is 2007/07 season.
you may be right about that, but Enroth has developed a lot since he got drafted... right now, Enroth is the better prospect IMO...

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