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03-29-2008, 04:31 PM
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When is going to be realized that our PP is good because of coaching?

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03-29-2008, 05:02 PM
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When is going to be realized that our PP is good because of coaching?
The team has something to do with it too. The PK isn't that good and we have many PK specialists on the team.

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03-29-2008, 06:11 PM
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Uh, are you serious?

He's 15th in the entire league for powerplay points. You "don't like him at all on the PP?"

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read in this forum, and trust me, that's saying something.

Among defensemen, he's 2nd in powerplay points. In the entire league. The powerplay that he helps quarterback is #1 league.

Your comment is beyond stupid. Just simply watch the games.
If you think my comment was the most stupid thing you've read on this board, then you should read what you said back in the trade deadline day.

I'm glad he's 15th in the entire league. What I'm trying to say is that I don't think he's the key player in our PP. I noticed A LOT of him struggling on the blue line and screwing out our chances. Not that he's that bad, I agree he has one good shot (that he doesn't use enough). I simply think that we could put in someone ever better than him on the PP.

And don't tell me to watch the games please, I've watched about 95% of this season's games. Don't try to be a smart ass over me.

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03-29-2008, 06:39 PM
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If you think my comment was the most stupid thing you've read on this board, then you should read what you said back in the trade deadline day.

I'm glad he's 15th in the entire league. What I'm trying to say is that I don't think he's the key player in our PP. I noticed A LOT of him struggling on the blue line and screwing out our chances. Not that he's that bad, I agree he has one good shot (that he doesn't use enough). I simply think that we could put in someone ever better than him on the PP.

And don't tell me to watch the games please, I've watched about 95% of this season's games. Don't try to be a smart ass over me.
name a few that ARE doing better than him...

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03-29-2008, 06:43 PM
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name a few that ARE doing better than him...
I'd like to know too.

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03-29-2008, 06:57 PM
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name a few that ARE doing better than him...
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I'd like to know too.
Guys, I'd like to know it as much as you, but it's hard to tell right now since Streit is getting the time.

I simply have the feeling that we could use someone better instead of him on the PP. Not that Streit is doing a bad job, but I think someone could do it better.

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03-29-2008, 06:58 PM
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Little off topic,but does anyone know the severity of Streit's ankle injury?

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03-29-2008, 07:13 PM
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Guys, I'd like to know it as much as you, but it's hard to tell right now since Streit is getting the time.

I simply have the feeling that we could use someone better instead of him on the PP. Not that Streit is doing a bad job, but I think someone could do it better.
someone better on the PP, like Rivet last year ? Hamrlik this year ? or S.K. ? Breezer ? hmmm... lemme see, Bouillon ? or well, O'Byrne or Gorges maybe ?

unless you meant someone from another team ? like who ?

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03-29-2008, 07:33 PM
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I wouldnt mind S.Kost. Neither Gorges.

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Tonights PP is exhibit A what streit brings to this team.

We've been awful against the worst PK team in the NHL.

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03-29-2008, 08:11 PM
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He is definitely one of the better offencers, that's for sure.

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03-29-2008, 10:11 PM
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Streit is one of the most offensive players out there: last time he came to my place, he took a dump on the floor, banged my girlfriend and checked my place for dust. I certainly would not invite him anymore.

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Streit is one of the most offensive players out there: last time he came to my place, he took a dump on the floor, banged my girlfriend and checked my place for dust. I certainly would not invite him anymore.
..you drink too much man.

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And don't tell me to watch the games please, I've watched about 95% of this season's games. Don't try to be a smart ass over me.
Did ya watch the game tonight there dingle berry? we missed Streit on the pp.

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Did ya watch the game tonight there dingle berry? we missed Streit on the pp.
Yeah cause our PP has never been KO'ed before when Streit was in.

Come on.

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Our PP sucked without Streit... don't tell me it didn't make a difference cause it clearly did....

He has a shot that teams have to respect or he will burn them on one-timers

He is also a tape - to - tape passing machine if you give him time and space.....

Don't tell me he's leeching on the #1 PP in the league, cause its just not true, he's a key part of our success..... Irreplaceable?? NO... he can be replaced... but at 3million good luck replacing him, it'll be tough at that price.

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03-30-2008, 09:33 AM
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""Is Streit one of the best defencer of the NHL?""

Oh brother!



PP specialist and part-time forward doesn't make him best defenseman

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Yeah cause our PP has never been KO'ed before when Streit was in.

Come on.
If you're gonna sit here and pretend that his absence last night wasn't glaring, go ahead, but you will just continue to look like a fool.

Streit's shot creates room and rebounds and forces teams to move to him to try and take away that blast which opens up space down low for the forwards to cycle and create a backdoor pass to Markov.

That wasn't there yesterday because nobody fears Sergei Kostitsyn at the point.

You made a dumb post, and poof, a few hours later, by coincidence, Streit is out and there's plenty of evidence of how important he is to this powerplay.

But you go ahead and pretend that isn't the case.

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03-30-2008, 10:14 AM
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Yeah cause our PP has never been KO'ed before when Streit was in.

Come on.
All I can think is that, as a fan, when you watch the power play, aagain as a fan of the team on the pp, you want to see it set up quickly, then good movement and smart plays leading to chances. That's what we all want. Streit, when he banks one off of a shin pad, or forces a pass, something he does more than the rest, because he's the one getting the puck most often in a shoot/pass dcesion sitaution, will frustrate you. You judge your own team differently. So, look at what others do around the league compared to Streit ? I don't think there is one team in the league that wouldn't be improved by having Streit on the pp.

Mtl has a lot of tools on the pp, 6 or 7 forwards who can play roles. Kovalev and Koivu who have specific pp skills, Markov, but Streit has put up close to 60 points. 60. There have been years when no one on the team has put up 60.

Strei has had bad games on D, been invisible up front, but he doesn't ever sit, because teh staff knows he's valuable on the pp and can be the difference in a game. They have no one even close to him and Markov. They can improvise with SK, Hamrlik and Brisebois if they have to but it isn't even close.

Gorges ? I think if Gorges himself was asked, he'd laugh. He doesn't have 10% the offensive ability Streit has.

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I think Mark Streit is pretty good. I hired him to remove the fence around my backyard last summer and it was a rousing success. I highly recommend his services.
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he also plays alot as an offencer.

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03-30-2008, 10:35 AM
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Mark Streit - FWD or D?

Question from a guy who doesn't get to see the Habs play very much:

How often does Streit line up at forward compared to D?

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80% Fwd 20% D.....but more D lately

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Question from a guy who doesn't get to see the Habs play very much:

How often does Streit line up at forward compared to D?
For the season as a whole it's been about 50-50 but he always plays D on the PP.

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You made a dumb post, and poof, a few hours later, by coincidence, Streit is out and there's plenty of evidence of how important he is to this powerplay.
Do you have some kind of inferiority complex? I got an opininon that differs of yours, fine, but get the F over it. We all have our own opinions about players, thats why some people think Higgins a superstar and other think he's at max a 3rd line player.

People nowadays can't argue without insulting.

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All I can think is that, as a fan, when you watch the power play, aagain as a fan of the team on the pp, you want to see it set up quickly, then good movement and smart plays leading to chances. That's what we all want. Streit, when he banks one off of a shin pad, or forces a pass, something he does more than the rest, because he's the one getting the puck most often in a shoot/pass dcesion sitaution, will frustrate you. You judge your own team differently. So, look at what others do around the league compared to Streit ? I don't think there is one team in the league that wouldn't be improved by having Streit on the pp.

Mtl has a lot of tools on the pp, 6 or 7 forwards who can play roles. Kovalev and Koivu who have specific pp skills, Markov, but Streit has put up close to 60 points. 60. There have been years when no one on the team has put up 60.

Strei has had bad games on D, been invisible up front, but he doesn't ever sit, because teh staff knows he's valuable on the pp and can be the difference in a game. They have no one even close to him and Markov. They can improvise with SK, Hamrlik and Brisebois if they have to but it isn't even close.

Gorges ? I think if Gorges himself was asked, he'd laugh. He doesn't have 10% the offensive ability Streit has.
Well I must admit that I feel his numbers don't show how he really plays. Souray put up 64 pts last year, yet nobody would want him back this year. I find his (Streit) defensive skills to be killing some part of our PP. While he has a good shot and passes, I find him to be soft on the blue line which often leads the puck to leave the offensive zone where there's no real danger.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is an aweful player and that he kills our PP, I simply suggest we still could improve it.

And I disagree about the fact that Streit missing on the PP was the reason why we sucked yesterday. Streit is no saviour and it happened often this year that our PP have been shut down even with him in. It sure didn't help tho.


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Well I must admit that I feel his numbers don't show how he really plays. Souray put up 64 pts last year, yet nobody would want him back this year. I find his (Streit) defensive skills to be killing some part of our PP. While he has a good shot and passes, I find him to be soft on the blue line which often leads the puck to leave the offensive zone where there's no real danger.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is an aweful player and that he kills our PP, I simply suggest we still could improve it.

And I disagree about the fact that Streit missing on the PP was the reason why we sucked yesterday. Streit is no saviour and it happened often this year that our PP have been shut down even with him in. It sure didn't help tho.
I think you fall into the home town trap. Sure I see pucks get by him, or bad passes, and I often agree when Yvon P. says that he's struggling, but still, he does more positive things than nearly any other point man.

When you watch, you see our guys as being the only reasons for good plays or bad. If our pp doesn't score, they played badly. If our pk is scored on, they palyed badly. This keeps you from a fair comparison to others around the league. Most fans do this.

Streit isn't, imo, a legit top 4 d man, but he's a really valuable player. If you have guys who can give you a special skill, it takes good coaching to get the most out of that skill while not getting hurt by the holes in his game.

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