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03-30-2008, 01:17 PM
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It's time for us to sign MANY youngsters to LONG contract. If the cap goes up each year, Crosby at 8.75 will be a steal in 2 years from now...
Yup. The 'next year we gonna be one of the only market with cap space' mentality has to go. Teams like Philly will still be able to be a player in the UFA market because they can let a player root in the minors ( Gauthier ) and use the new cap money to get a quality UFA.

Time to give the youngster long term deals ala Horton,Brown and all the young players that signed for 5,6 years.

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And every team in the league will have money to sign away our RFA's... great.

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03-30-2008, 01:28 PM
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And every team in the league will have money to sign away our RFA's... great.
and so will we(have money for RFA's)........


AND if we lose a guy , we get picks(1st rounders) .......so i might be upset but im not goona cry .


if it becomes a RFA war in the NHL every year, so be it ....

Habs will be one of the few teams to spend near the cap ,which makes a higher cap better for us .

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03-30-2008, 01:35 PM
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I didn't say it was gonna bankrupt the league dude.

All i'm saying is that if player salaries keep increasing, then the 24% rollback and a year of no hockey will lead the players to having higher salaries just a few years later.
I trust this man's opinion. He's in marketing... uhh, I mean accounting

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Habs will be one of the few teams to spend near the cap ,which makes a higher cap better for us .

Yeah but the extra wiggle room allows for those that have managed their cap poorly to be able to keep on spending. That means a teams like the Flyers can once again land a big name free agent that we target. We can't spend all that spare money if we're not their #1 destination of choice.

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03-30-2008, 01:41 PM
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Yeah but the extra wiggle room allows for those that have managed their cap poorly to be able to keep on spending. That means a teams like the Flyers can once again land a big name free agent that we target. We can't spend all that spare money if we're not their #1 destination of choice.
with our finish this season (first place in division ) and clawing at 1st in the eastern conference were goona be a alot more marketable now for free agents .I believe this

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03-30-2008, 01:45 PM
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Well, the recession in the US might also drive the Canadian dollar up against the US Dollar (which is all that matters for the NHL, really) and further increase revenues, or at the least, offset the US recession.
A US recession will most likely bring Canada into it as well.(At least eastern Canada)

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03-30-2008, 01:49 PM
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A US recession will most likely bring Canada into it as well.(At least eastern Canada)
i agree, if they go down, hockey will take a hit as well.

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i agree, if they go down, hockey will take a hit as well.
I don't think it would be "too" bad in the good markets since anyway the amount of customers is limited by the offer(limited amount of seats etc) not by the demand. But weak markets could be pushed to the edge. Historically, we know that TV rates are higher in a time of recession, something that is GOOD for hockey overall.

All-in-all, a reduced growth rate (from 7-8% to maybe 3-4%) is to be expected.

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It's a good news since it's linked to revenue. More revenue is good.

But what i find funny is that owner really wanted the cap to be linked to revenue instead of accepting like 50 fixed cap they went with revenue and now they gonna have to pay more then what they wanted to. Players refused a revenue based cap and finally they end up winning with that kind of cap.

The thing I dont like is that GM that managed their stuff poorly gets another chance to make up for those mistakes.

I'd rather have a fixed cap, but if the revenue based cap goes up it's surely a good news. It'll give us an edge which is nice.

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03-30-2008, 02:20 PM
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It's a good news since it's linked to revenue. More revenue is good.

But what i find funny is that owner really wanted the cap to be linked to revenue instead of accepting like 50 fixed cap they went with revenue and now they gonna have to pay more then what they wanted to. Players refused a revenue based cap and finally they end up winning with that kind of cap.

The thing I dont like is that GM that managed their stuff poorly gets another chance to make up for those mistakes.

I'd rather have a fixed cap, but if the revenue based cap goes up it's surely a good news. It'll give us an edge which is nice.
Yeah, it really is a nuissance that we will likely see Philly retain Jeff Carter now. I mean with the depth this team has at center, it would have been nice to see them have no choice but eat their cap and send one of their centerman packing.

I really like Carter, I always thought he'd look good in a Habs uniform.

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Revenues up is good news, the bad news is that there is already talk of a lower cap (ie. 50% of revenues instead of 54%). Which means more labour unrest.

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The cap going up and having Bob Gainey as general manager bodes well for Montreal no matter how you slice it. He is extremely responsible and this will allow him some moving space to sign some players and retain the young guys. Not to mention Gillett seems willing to spend more or less whatever it takes to win, and the team is one of the most profitable in the NHL as it stands today.

Its tough for small-market teams, but oh well.. What can I say? I'm a Habs fans.. If we benefit, i'm content.

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03-30-2008, 02:38 PM
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So Pittsburgh might be able to keep all their People, great....
But thhey don't like to spend to the cap.

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My question is, if it ends up hitting, say, $70M cap due to a league wide revenue jump one year, and then all that money disappears due to a league scandal, how do they force teams to drop the cap?
I've always wondered about this too. Can the cap recede? If so, do contracts get rolled back the same amount unless you're making the league minimum? For instance, if the caps drops by 10% do the players' lose 10% of the value of their contracts, or does every team just have to live with it and find a way under the cap?

Actually, I'd be really interested to see that.

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But thhey don't like to spend to the cap.
They don't need to for now, there's a huge difference.

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I've always wondered about this too. Can the cap recede? If so, do contracts get rolled back the same amount unless you're making the league minimum? For instance, if the caps drops by 10% do the players' lose 10% of the value of their contracts, or does every team just have to live with it and find a way under the cap?

Actually, I'd be really interested to see that.
I've always wondered this as well, does anybody have a good knowledge of the CBA that knows this? I'm thinking there must be some sort of system in place, otherwise.. Oops.

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This can be a good AND bad thing. After next season, almost our entire core will be either UFA or RFA. The rise in the cap should allow us to keep all of them.

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And every team in the league will have money to sign away our RFA's... great.
No....some teams have something called a budget.

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this is not necessarely great news because this will allow teams like NY Rangers and Philadelphia Flyers pay 10M$/year for 20 years for Chris Higgins.
Ill gladly take the 5+ 1st Rounders for him

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The cap is going to become meaningless in the future. Only a select amount of teams will be able to spend the whole cap, while others are far below.

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Maybe we can finally get rid of some of the "bum" markets in the states and bring in/back a canadian team if the're ready (arena/season tickets).
I don't think the cap will go as high as projected over the next years for hockey.

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Maybe we can finally get rid of some of the "bum" markets in the states and bring in/back a canadian team if the're ready (arena/season tickets).
I don't think the cap will go as high as projected over the next years for hockey.
it pretty much has the opposite effect.

A city like Quebec for example would have alot more chance with a low cap.

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Maybe we can finally get rid of some of the "bum" markets in the states and bring in/back a canadian team if the're ready (arena/season tickets).
I don't think the cap will go as high as projected over the next years for hockey.
I don't see it ever happening so long as Bettman is running the show, i'm afraid.

I miss Habs vs Nords rivalry..

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