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03-30-2008, 11:21 PM
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Maybe guys like Shanahan, Jagr, Avery wake the **** up during the playoffs and give us explosive offensive efforts like the OTT game or first half of the MON game.

I like the parts of this team more this year. As long as the young, and old for that matter, guys know not to take a single shift off in the playoffs.. we'll do fine.

If the aforementioned fail to show up, well, that's why we're paying Mr. Drury the big bucks.

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03-31-2008, 12:32 AM
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Without A Doubt...

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03-31-2008, 12:48 AM
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What do you think?
Outsider's perspective:

Better? I don't know. We'll all know in the next 1-2+ months.

However, I do know this:

Their younger players, i.e., Lundqvist, Girardi, Tyutin, etc. are more experienced - most importantly, playoff experienced - than they were 365 days ago.

They possess Gomez and Drury - guys who know how to WIN this time of the year. This is the reason why they were signed to big contracts - to help deliver in April-June what Nylander would never be able to contribute. Big advantage over last year.

A final point: look around the league - this roster is very deep. That could matter over the next couple of months.

I picked NYR to come out of the East in September and they remain my choice (to face San Jose), though I would not be surprised if Montreal or the Pens prevail.

Just my opinion.

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03-31-2008, 08:59 AM
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I say yes we are better now. Looking at the east im not scared of any team in the playoffs. I feel confident against any team in a seven game series this year, i know i coulnt have made that statment last year at this point. Does any team in the east playoffs even have a winning record against us..?


I know we have weaknesses, but what team in the top 8 in the east doesnt. Its the west im worried about, when we get that far.

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03-31-2008, 09:02 AM
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The team is better. The problem is they by and large are either very old (Jagr, Straka, Shanahan, Strudwick) or very young (Dawes, Dubinsky, Staal, Callahan, Girardi).

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03-31-2008, 09:14 AM
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This team is better than the points and the standings suggest.

They had a bad start to the season, which is why they are in the situation they are in now.

Also, before the loss to the Penguins, they had a legit shot to grab a top 3 seed.

By beating the Penguins twice that would've put them 2 points behind them for #1 in the division.

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03-31-2008, 09:21 AM
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Yes, without a doubt.
Thats the correct/only answer.

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03-31-2008, 09:22 AM
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The team is better. The problem is they by and large are either very old (Jagr, Straka, Shanahan, Strudwick) or very young (Dawes, Dubinsky, Staal, Callahan, Girardi).
Just like the 1986 Rangers

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03-31-2008, 09:54 AM
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As a team, defenitly.

But last season many called Straks-Nyls-JJ the best line in hockey, the most dominant line in hockey. I am not saying they where, but you often heard comments like that from other commentators then the MSG crew. And they where really dominant on the ice, especially in terms of spending time in the attacking zone.

Now we don't even got a 1st line... So we are a diffrent team. Flatter. But more solid.

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03-31-2008, 10:03 AM
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As a team, defenitly.

But last season many called Straks-Nyls-JJ the best line in hockey, the most dominant line in hockey. I am not saying they where, but you often heard comments like that from other commentators then the MSG crew. And they where really dominant on the ice, especially in terms of spending time in the attacking zone.

Now we don't even got a 1st line... So we are a diffrent team. Flatter. But more solid.
spezza-alfredson-heatley,, and they made the cup finals..

but i think the rangers are missing that top line who can go get a goal when we need one.. if we needed a goal nylander straka jagr could pretty much go out and get one.. i think the loss of nylander has hurt THIS years team alot more then people might have thought..

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03-31-2008, 10:06 AM
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I think this team is bette than last years team, absolutely.

A few more points here and there and we are talking about winning the conference.

Last year that wasnt even a thought.

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03-31-2008, 11:54 AM
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Outsider's perspective:

Better? I don't know. We'll all know in the next 1-2+ months.

However, I do know this:

Their younger players, i.e., Lundqvist, Girardi, Tyutin, etc. are more experienced - most importantly, playoff experienced - than they were 365 days ago.

They possess Gomez and Drury - guys who know how to WIN this time of the year. This is the reason why they were signed to big contracts - to help deliver in April-June what Nylander would never be able to contribute. Big advantage over last year.

A final point: look around the league - this roster is very deep. That could matter over the next couple of months.

I picked NYR to come out of the East in September and they remain my choice (to face San Jose), though I would not be surprised if Montreal or the Pens prevail.

Just my opinion.


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03-31-2008, 12:53 PM
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I think we are better but I don't know how far we will go if we have to face Pittsburgh or Montreal in the first round.

Optimistically I'd like to finish 4th and play New Jersey but the Rangers would probably have to win out to be able to do so.

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03-31-2008, 04:41 PM
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Yes.

We figure this PP thing out, we're going places.

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03-31-2008, 05:35 PM
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Yes.

We figure this PP thing out, we're going places.
Which is why, among other reasons, #68 still is (must be) a big part of the equation, should NYR succeed.

As your big-name players go, so goes your team this time of the year. The same for every playoff squad. And despite a very ordinary season and advanced age, Jagr is no "bit" player.

If he steps it up for a prolonged period, the rest falls neatly into place for NYR this spring, IMO.

Big "if," of course.

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03-31-2008, 05:53 PM
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I think the answer is that this year we are definitely a better team, BUT that team is not playing up to its capacity all season long. Last year we played up to capacity all season pretty much and then got very, very hot at the end of the year. Now the positive that you can take from this is that we have a situation of too many cooks spoiling the broth this year. We have too many guys throwing their hats in as the leaders of this team, really very many strong voices. I, for one cannot wait until (not sure if it happens next year or the year after) Drury and Gomer get to really take over the leadership of this team. I am scared about who will develop into those dominant scoring wingers, but I think we need to trust the system and maybe buy a free agent or two, because our system is designed for guys who can score but aren't necessarily Ovechkins or Heatleys.

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04-01-2008, 04:17 AM
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last year we had better scoring (it seemed) and our PP was working.
Jagr has lost a step this year and frankly so has Straka. Nylanders creativity is missing but mostly his scoring.

Nylander our best scorer of last year outscores Scott Gomez our best scorer of now.
by 13 points sofar!

Jagr/Straka/Nylander scored last year 249 pts!!!! Shanny has also 20 pts less this year.

vs Jagr/Gomez/Straka total output of 173 pts this year. Huge offensive drop!!!



Having said that I think the D is better this year.

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