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03-31-2008, 11:35 AM
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Jeff Hackett and Cristobal Huet...Similar Players?

I was actually just looking at some stats from Montreal's goaltenders in the late 90's up till today, and something stuck out at me. Jeff Hackett was a pretty damn good goalie that never got the respect he deserved. He was, like Cristobal, pushed by youngsters and was a always kind of a "temporary fix" while they found their true #1.

Check out their stats...kinda similar and both impressive.

Jeff Hackett

RS Scoring RS Goalie Stats PO Scoring
Season Team Lge GP G A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct GP G A PIM

1993-94 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 22 0 1 2 1084 62 0 0 3.43 2 12 3 504 0.890 - - - -
1994-95 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 7 0 0 0 328 13 0 0 2.38 1 3 2 137 0.913 2 0 0 0
1995-96 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 35 0 1 8 2000 80 2 4 2.40 18 11 4 868 0.916 1 0 0 0
1996-97 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 41 0 1 6 2473 89 2 2 2.16 19 18 4 1123 0.927 6 0 0 0
1997-98 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 58 0 0 8 3441 126 3 8 2.20 21 25 11 1520 0.917 - - - -
1998-99 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 10 0 0 6 524 33 3 0 3.78 2 6 1 223 0.871 - - - -
1998-99 Montreal Canadiens NHL 53 0 1 6 3091 117 2 5 2.27 24 20 9 1243 0.914 - - - -
1999-00 Montreal Canadiens NHL 56 0 0 4 3301 132 2 3 2.40 23 25 7 1543 0.914 - - - -
2000-01 Montreal Canadiens NHL 19 0 1 0 998 54 2 0 3.25 4 10 2 477 0.887 - - - -
2001-02 Montreal Canadiens NHL 15 0 0 2 717 38 0 0 3.18 5 5 2 395 0.904 - - - -
2002-03 Montreal Canadiens NHL 18 0 0 0 1063 45 1 0 2.54 7 8 2 561 0.926 - - - -
2002-03 Boston Bruins NHL 18 0 0 2 991 53 1 1 3.21 8 9 0 447 0.894 - - - -
2003-04 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 27 0 0 0 1630 65 1 3 2.39 10 10 6 619 0.905 - - - -
2003-04 Philadelphia Phantoms AHL 1 0 0 0 60 2 0 0 2.00 1 0 0 16 0.889 - - - -

Cristobal Huet

RS Scoring RS Goalie Stats PO Scoring
Season Team Lge GP G A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct GP G A PIM
2002-03 Los Angeles Kings NHL 12 0 0 0 541 21 2 1 2.33 4 4 1 220 0.913 - - - -
2003-04 Los Angeles Kings NHL 42 0 0 4 2199 89 7 3 2.43 10 16 10 872 0.907 - - - -
2004-05 Mannheim Eagles DEL 36 0 4 12 2001 93 0 1 2.79 0 0 0 1002 0.915 14 0 0 10
2005-06 Montreal Canadiens NHL 36 0 0 0 2103 77 1 7 2.20 18 11 4 1008 0.929 6 0 0 0
2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 4 0 0 0 237 15 1 0 3.79 0 4 0 94 0.862 - - - -
2006-07 Montreal Canadiens NHL 42 0 1 0 2286 107 1 2 2.81 19 16 3 1173 0.916 - - - -
2007-08 Montreal Canadiens* NHL 39 0 1 0 2278 97 4 2 2.56 21 12 6 1053 0.916
2007-08 Washington Capitals NHL 10 0 1 0 591 18 1 2 1.83 8 2 0 244 0.931

Obviously Jeff had a couple of so-so years caused by injury, but for the most part was an extremely solid goalie. Again, he was never really given a full year and played mostly 40-60 games (Like Huet)

It's an interesting comparison I feel as Huet's career could en up going kinda the same way...

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Huet definitely has more talent than Hackett.
If caps re-sign Huet, the team will flourish with him. He is already doing a hell of a job over there, something Hackett didn't do with his new teams.

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I was actually just looking at some stats from Montreal's goaltenders in the late 90's up till today, and something stuck out at me. Jeff Hackett was a pretty damn good goalie that never got the respect he deserved. He was, like Cristobal, pushed by youngsters and was a always kind of a "temporary fix" while they found their true #1.

Check out their stats...kinda similar and both impressive.

Jeff Hackett

RS Scoring RS Goalie Stats PO Scoring
Season Team Lge GP G A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct GP G A PIM

1993-94 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 22 0 1 2 1084 62 0 0 3.43 2 12 3 504 0.890 - - - -
1994-95 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 7 0 0 0 328 13 0 0 2.38 1 3 2 137 0.913 2 0 0 0
1995-96 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 35 0 1 8 2000 80 2 4 2.40 18 11 4 868 0.916 1 0 0 0
1996-97 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 41 0 1 6 2473 89 2 2 2.16 19 18 4 1123 0.927 6 0 0 0
1997-98 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 58 0 0 8 3441 126 3 8 2.20 21 25 11 1520 0.917 - - - -
1998-99 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 10 0 0 6 524 33 3 0 3.78 2 6 1 223 0.871 - - - -
1998-99 Montreal Canadiens NHL 53 0 1 6 3091 117 2 5 2.27 24 20 9 1243 0.914 - - - -
1999-00 Montreal Canadiens NHL 56 0 0 4 3301 132 2 3 2.40 23 25 7 1543 0.914 - - - -
2000-01 Montreal Canadiens NHL 19 0 1 0 998 54 2 0 3.25 4 10 2 477 0.887 - - - -
2001-02 Montreal Canadiens NHL 15 0 0 2 717 38 0 0 3.18 5 5 2 395 0.904 - - - -
2002-03 Montreal Canadiens NHL 18 0 0 0 1063 45 1 0 2.54 7 8 2 561 0.926 - - - -
2002-03 Boston Bruins NHL 18 0 0 2 991 53 1 1 3.21 8 9 0 447 0.894 - - - -
2003-04 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 27 0 0 0 1630 65 1 3 2.39 10 10 6 619 0.905 - - - -
2003-04 Philadelphia Phantoms AHL 1 0 0 0 60 2 0 0 2.00 1 0 0 16 0.889 - - - -

Cristobal Huet

RS Scoring RS Goalie Stats PO Scoring
Season Team Lge GP G A PIM Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Svs Pct GP G A PIM
2002-03 Los Angeles Kings NHL 12 0 0 0 541 21 2 1 2.33 4 4 1 220 0.913 - - - -
2003-04 Los Angeles Kings NHL 42 0 0 4 2199 89 7 3 2.43 10 16 10 872 0.907 - - - -
2004-05 Mannheim Eagles DEL 36 0 4 12 2001 93 0 1 2.79 0 0 0 1002 0.915 14 0 0 10
2005-06 Montreal Canadiens NHL 36 0 0 0 2103 77 1 7 2.20 18 11 4 1008 0.929 6 0 0 0
2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 4 0 0 0 237 15 1 0 3.79 0 4 0 94 0.862 - - - -
2006-07 Montreal Canadiens NHL 42 0 1 0 2286 107 1 2 2.81 19 16 3 1173 0.916 - - - -
2007-08 Montreal Canadiens* NHL 39 0 1 0 2278 97 4 2 2.56 21 12 6 1053 0.916
2007-08 Washington Capitals NHL 10 0 1 0 591 18 1 2 1.83 8 2 0 244 0.931

Obviously Jeff had a couple of so-so years caused by injury, but for the most part was an extremely solid goalie. Again, he was never really given a full year and played mostly 40-60 games (Like Huet)

It's an interesting comparison I feel as Huet's career could en up going kinda the same way...
I was thinking the same thing last week. SCARY!! Let us hope Price is no Theodore!!

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Hackett was a very, very solid goalie.. but injuries hurt him a lot. If he never got hurt (or even not as regularly) he'd of been a Top-10 goalie, IMO.

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I was thinking the same thing last week. SCARY!! Let us hope Price is no Theodore!!
And Halak .. Garon..
* Garon is great and was traded. He's a solid #1 now.... However, Theodore is having a very good year and he's still a decent #1.

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well at least Theo gave us a Vezina/Hart season

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Huet definitely has more talent than Hackett.
If caps re-sign Huet, the team will flourish with him. He is already doing a hell of a job over there, something Hackett didn't do with his new teams.
I'd argue the contrary.

Hackett when it came to pure talent might have been one of the best goaltenders in the league... he had unreal reflexes, lateral movement, and overal quickness. He just seemed to lack focus and consistensy at times. Injuries really took a toll on him as well.

Overall though, I'd agree with the similarites. I personally think if Hackett played for better teams in his career, he could have been a top 10 goalie in the league.. Coulda, woulda, shouda I guess.


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I remember watching at the beginning of the 01-02 season where Theodore had his breakout year. We were literally carried by goaltending the whole season, and Hackett was better than Theodore was at the beginning of the season.

Who went out with injury that year? I remember Varada kneeing someone in the head early in the year when both were playing so well.

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I was thinking the same thing last week. SCARY!! Let us hope Price is no Theodore!!
I even think their personalities are very similar!! Very low key, low maintenance players.

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Huet definitely has more talent than Hackett.
If caps re-sign Huet, the team will flourish with him. He is already doing a hell of a job over there, something Hackett didn't do with his new teams.
What? Hackett would've been a big time goalie had he not been injured so much. Get your head on straight man!

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I always liked both players. Really bugs me when posters call them marginal goalies, or something like that.

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What? Hackett would've been a big time goalie had he not been injured so much. Get your head on straight man!
When did he say he wasn't? he just said Cristo is better, he never said Hackett sucked...

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Hackett was one of my favorite players in those dark times.

Some of the most amazing reflexes i have seen in goalie. Also loved when he came out and challenged shooters.

IMO Hackett was a better goalie, not that Huet isn't a good one.

It would of been nice to see Hackett in his prime with the team we have now. Frankly, he deserved it after lean years in SJ, Chicago and Montreal.

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Hackett was one of my favorite players in those dark times.

Some of the most amazing reflexes i have seen in goalie. Also loved when he came out and challenged shooters.

IMO Hackett was a better goalie, not that Huet isn't a good one.

It would of been nice to see Hackett in his prime with the team we have now. Frankly, he deserved it after lean years in SJ, Chicago and Montreal.
agreed

I loved his competitive spirit too. He was always too disgusted to watch opposing players celebrate when they score so he would turn his back and look to the rafters until they were done celebrating.

He had lightning quick feet

He was the mvp of the team for 2 years in a row and I loved how he handled the whole theodore situation

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Yeah I definitely see Hackett as the superior goalie.

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I remember watching at the beginning of the 01-02 season where Theodore had his breakout year. We were literally carried by goaltending the whole season, and Hackett was better than Theodore was at the beginning of the season.

Who went out with injury that year? I remember Varada kneeing someone in the head early in the year when both were playing so well.
Varada kneed Theodore in the head and then Gilmour took out Varada's knee. Hackett went down with a shoulder injury towards the end of the season.

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Hackett was one of my favorite players in those dark times.

Some of the most amazing reflexes i have seen in goalie. Also loved when he came out and challenged shooters.

IMO Hackett was a better goalie, not that Huet isn't a good one.

It would of been nice to see Hackett in his prime with the team we have now. Frankly, he deserved it after lean years in SJ, Chicago and Montreal.
well, not to interrupt the Hackett lovefest, but his chokejob in the last couple of weeks in 2000 cost us a playoff spot. Granted Theodore should have been starting as he outplayed Hackett that season but that is another issue on its own.

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Meh, that's like saying Legace blew it for the Blues this year.

Not much you can do about an Alfredsson snapper from the top of the circle down 2-1 with 10 minutes left in a game where you're at your absolute limit, physically.

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I was a big Hackett fan personnaly. He was one, if not the only, bright spot in this joke of a team we had back then. True sportsman, great teammate, very talented and a fierce competitor. Too bad he was there when the team sucked as much as it ever sucked. I think Hackett was a better goalie than Huet but Huet's number are better because he played behind a better team.

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