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04-02-2008, 04:41 PM
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Fixed one for ya. It's true, while Avery had gained a reputation as a turtler (see Darcy Hordichuck), he has been scrapped with bigger guys. However, some of the guys on that list are not fighters. Richards, Kovalchuck, and Malone may be bigger, but they are hardly known for dropping the gloves. Kudos on Tucker, Walker, and Clarkson though.

Avery is a middle-level fighter, but his antics sometimes attract the A-list guys. Anybody expecting him to throw down with a heavyweight is going to be disappointed. He might be crazy, but not stupid.
Richards has had 16 NHL fights according to Hockeyfights.com in 3 seasons including preseason. He might not be the most frequent but he's not exactly shy either and the couple time I've seen him fight including the one with Avery he knows what he's doing. Malone has had 9 fights this season and is a big guy--as for the idea of Avery fighting true heavyweights there's no point as just about all of them are sub-par hockey players and fighting them doesn't benefit either the team or Avery.

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04-02-2008, 04:46 PM
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Clarkson and Avery looked to be about the same size. Curious that Avery's that short cause I never knew that.

That was an awesome fight. I hope they throw down more often.

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04-02-2008, 05:05 PM
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From my opinion, I think that in his role as a pest... he sometimes has to back down. I mean, its gonna happen. Thats why they're annoying. They don't always back up their words... but they're effective (i.e. Kovalchuk). I see what you're saying, you can't expect them to fight a big man. But in the real world, a guy like that should expect to have to answer to anyone bigger than him.

So why some people knock Avery, I'll knock pests as a whole. Talk too much but really shouldn't. He's like that guy at the bar... Notice how the big guys don't really run their mouths. They don't have to
Yea, but that's the WHOLE point of a pest. To piss you off, get under your skin, throw you off your game. When a guy runs his mouth, and backs it up well enough, he earns respect. When a guy runs his mouth, and you want to fight him, but he won't do the same, that makes you more angry. It's all in the art of being a pest.

Let's say, for instance, someone takes a post whistle cheap shot at you (Punch, hit, slash, kick, whatever). If you were anywhere but a hockey game, you should get up and put the person in his place. But, since you're in the middle of the game, taking the hit without retaliating, even if it makes you look like a *****, is the best thing to do. Why? Draw a penalty, keep the other player on edge, because after all the cheap shot isn't the only thing the guy wanted.

Fighting when it is necessary is one thing, but refusing to fight (Let alone helping your team if you're a first liner like Aves) can help your team even more. What would you want, a player thrown off his game for the duration of the game, or one quick scrum?

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04-02-2008, 05:26 PM
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i would assume avery won. and as for team unity here it is from Renney's mouth

“I like it,” he said. “It wasn’t malicious. It wasn’t stick swinging. It was within the rules of the game. We have to step up, so maybe this is the sign of a team saying, ‘That’s it. We have to be better every night."
Sam Weinman said Malik won.

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Whatever Avery did/say to Malik, it worked because he's ben played alot better lately.
Malik's game has been much better lately

Seriously though, this actually happened? Is that why Malik's missed the last few games?

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04-03-2008, 08:42 AM
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I think Avery should look for Hilary Duff in the stands, drop the gloves and then proceed smack the hell out of her

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04-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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Malik's game has been much better lately

Seriously though, this actually happened? Is that why Malik's missed the last few games?
if im not mistaken it happenned while malik was scratched for that stretch like a month and a half ago just wish lurch would play like that during a game

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04-03-2008, 10:07 AM
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I think Avery should look for Hilary Duff in the stands, drop the gloves and then proceed smack the hell out of her
NICE! .....post of the year so far. If he could find a way to knock out Hannah Montana also, he would be like a god.

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04-03-2008, 01:15 PM
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When Avery went after Clarkson and then after Malone it was to make a point that the Rangers knew the other team's game plan involved taking it to the Rangers physically. And that the Rangers don't care . . .

This is completely different from just even the first half of last year, pre-Avery and pre-Orr where the other team often got in the first 10 hits in a row and the Rangers played small.

He's got a good feel for momentum and usually drops the gloves to produce an effect.

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04-04-2008, 09:24 AM
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if im not mistaken it happenned while malik was scratched for that stretch like a month and a half ago just wish lurch would play like that during a game
That's nuts. I'm suprised we didn't hear of this sooner. What's the concensus Malik done for the season or what? He's been a healthy scratch, for 3 games now is it?

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04-04-2008, 03:02 PM
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Avery fights Malik, Malik gets all fiery, Avery screams at Mali, "Why can't you play in games like that?" All of a sudden Malik becomes solid. Coincidence? Reason #535678 why we should resign Avery.

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04-04-2008, 10:11 PM
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Avery fights Malik, Malik gets all fiery, Avery screams at Mali, "Why can't you play in games like that?" All of a sudden Malik becomes solid. Coincidence? Reason #535678 why we should resign Avery.
Malik hasn't played for a week. Who cares?

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If i recall there was alot of talk around the HFboards earlier on in the season(around the time of his scrap with Kovalchuk) that Avery won't fight people bigger than he is. Well boys and girls that looks like it is not true. Eight fights so far this year(including pre-season) and he has fought most of them against guys bigger than he is.

Sean Avery Height: 5-9 , Weight: 195

Ilya Kovalchuk - Height: 6'2" Weight: 235lbs
Mike Richards - Height: 6' Weight: 192lbs
Darcy Tucker - Height: 5'11" Weight: 182lbs
Scott Walker - Height: 5'9" Weight: 185lbs
Patrick Kaleta - Height: 5'11" Weight: 195lbs
Marek Malik - Height: 6'6" Weight: 240lbs
David clarkson - Height: 6'1" Weight: 205lbs
Ryan Malone - Height: 6'4" Weight: 224lbs

Is this a joke? If anything you're just proving the point that he turtles and doesnt fight legitimate fighters. Kovalchuk? Richards? Walker? Kaleta? Seriously?

And he didnt fight Clarkson, Clarkson fought him. Clarkson jumped him, so it's not like he had a choice. Without seeing the game, I would guess the Malone "fight" is similar.

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Sean Avery Height: 5-9 , Weight: 195

Ryan Malone - Height: 6'4" Weight: 224lbs
How the hell did Malone lose that fight...

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Without seeing the game, I would guess the Malone "fight" is similar.

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I think Malik won actually
Malik won

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How the hell did Malone lose that fight...
i dont think malone is a fighter, IMO i would compare him to trent hunter (obviously malone has more skill) they are both big guys, cant fight, can play on both sides of the ice.

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Is this a joke? If anything you're just proving the point that he turtles and doesnt fight legitimate fighters. Kovalchuk? Richards? Walker? Kaleta? Seriously?

And he didnt fight Clarkson, Clarkson fought him. Clarkson jumped him, so it's not like he had a choice. Without seeing the game, I would guess the Malone "fight" is similar.

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richards and kaleta are very good fighters. I saw the richards v. avery fight and i thought it was a draw. Clarkson did win his fight and malone isnt really a fighter if you ask me.

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04-05-2008, 09:38 AM
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if im not mistaken it happenned while malik was scratched for that stretch like a month and a half ago just wish lurch would play like that during a game
i kind of got the feeling that renney is being a little spiteful back for the stuff Lurch has pulled, since we are officially well *knock on wood* healthy on D, it was time to mess with Lurch and say who is the boss now

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