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02-06-2004, 11:28 AM
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CBJ Organizational Rank per HF: #8

An increase of 17 places over last year.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=6662

I hope our guys prove HF right.

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02-06-2004, 11:42 AM
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Not too bad...seeing as Nash somehow wasn't sent back to London.

I'm scratching my head at seeing Edmonton at #3 while a team like the Preds (loaded with better d-men prospects, IMO) doesn't crack the top-10.

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Not too bad...seeing as Nash somehow wasn't sent back to London.

I'm scratching my head at seeing Edmonton at #3 while a team like the Preds (loaded with better d-men prospects, IMO) doesn't crack the top-10.

Nashville and Edmonton both have terrific blueliners in their respective systems but take a look up front and the differences are obvious.

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02-06-2004, 11:50 AM
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Nashville and Edmonton both have terrific blueliners in their respective systems but take a look up front and the differences are obvious.
You'll forgive us if we overestimate the talent of Nashville's forwards. They'd be Hall-of-Famers if they played against Columbus all the time.

Check out David Legwand's and and Scott Walker's career stats versus Columbus for a small sampling.

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I feel like we have top 5 young talent in the league, but I don't feel like the prospects in our system should be top 10. It's kind of stupid that Zherdev still counts since he will be playing the rest of the year. I love our prospects, but I think we may be slightly over rated. If it was a list of teams with talent 23 or younger, I'd think we would make a case to be number 1.

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IMO New Jersey is too high.

Wheres LA?

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Not too bad...seeing as Nash somehow wasn't sent back to London.

I'm scratching my head at seeing Edmonton at #3 while a team like the Preds (loaded with better d-men prospects, IMO) doesn't crack the top-10.
Hockey's future doesn't cover Nashville.

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I feel like we have top 5 young talent in the league, but I don't feel like the prospects in our system should be top 10. It's kind of stupid that Zherdev still counts since he will be playing the rest of the year. I love our prospects, but I think we may be slightly over rated. If it was a list of teams with talent 23 or younger, I'd think we would make a case to be number 1.
My thoughts, exactly.

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Nashville and Edmonton both have terrific blueliners in their respective systems but take a look up front and the differences are obvious.
Really? I see Edmonton as having some of the most overrated prospects in all of HF. I think you stick too slavishly to the rating system. Using this system, an 8th rounder can be rated a 8.0 only moments after being passed over 200 times.

Upshall and Suter are better than anyone Edmonton has. Players like Niinimaki are rated way too high. He was drafted almost 10 spots behind Upshall for a reason.

Players like Poilot are rated as high as players like Suter and Upshall.

Unfortunately, if player A is drafted by Edmonton at B spot. They will get an XX rating. If player A is drafted by Nashville at B spot, they will get a (XX - 1) rating.

I know you love Edmonton and all, but when you stack them up against Nashville, they come out on top in only one place and that's HF rankings. That has more to do with the fact that you rank Edmonton prospects very highly and our page fails to include even one of our best prospects. Example, Deslauriers is an 8. The goalie drafted 7 spots later is a 6.5. I think you (and a few others) give Edmonton prospects the benefit of the doubt. It's all well and good, but pages like Nashvilles do no such thing. So it appears as though Edmonton has better prospects.

And Nashville has a better defensive core.

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Really? I see Edmonton as having some of the most overrated prospects in all of HF. I think you stick too slavishly to the rating system. Using this system, an 8th rounder can be rated a 8.0 only moments after being passed over 200 times.

Upshall and Suter are better than anyone Edmonton has. Players like Niinimaki are rated way too high. He was drafted almost 10 spots behind Upshall for a reason.

Players like Poilot are rated as high as players like Suter and Upshall.

Unfortunately, if player A is drafted by Edmonton at B spot. They will get an XX rating. If player A is drafted by Nashville at B spot, they will get a (XX - 1) rating.

I know you love Edmonton and all, but when you stack them up against Nashville, they come out on top in only one place and that's HF rankings. That has more to do with the fact that you rank Edmonton prospects very highly and our page fails to include even one of our best prospects. Example, Deslauriers is an 8. The goalie drafted 7 spots later is a 6.5. I think you (and a few others) give Edmonton prospects the benefit of the doubt. It's all well and good, but pages like Nashvilles do no such thing. So it appears as though Edmonton has better prospects.

And Nashville has a better defensive core.
agreed

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