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04-13-2008, 12:30 AM
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Esposito will make AHL debut tomorrow

I'm in Chicago and just talked to him. I posted a few details on my blog.

Here's the direct link:
http://thrashersprospectsannex.blogs...ahl-debut.html

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Nice to see he'll be given a shot to play tomorrow! I look forward to seeing the photos.

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That's surprising that Wolves haven't sent anything out yet. They are usually quick to send out player signings.

Kulda has been looking pretty decent for his first try at pro hockey. He seemed to log a lot of ice time. Played in every situation.

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Goodluck Espo.

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And here's the summary of his debut:

http://thrashersprospectsannex.blogs...ahl-debut.html

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04-14-2008, 02:26 AM
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here's wishing much luck to esposito. he was definitely the guy i was most disappointed to see go in the hossa deal and think he's going to respond when he gets his shot.

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CHICAGO WOLVES TRIM ROSTER (Esposito)

04/30/2008 10:58 AM - The Chicago Wolves have released center Angelo Esposito from his Amateur Tryout Contact (ATO).

The 19-year-old forward was held scoreless in one regular-season game with the Wolves during his professional debut, after signing with the club on April 13, following the conclusion of his QMJHL season with the Quebec Remparts.

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So this means what? He's not ready for prime time? Not that that is a surprise but I was hoping for some playing time for the kid, however limited. I suppose you don't get much developmental ice time in the playoffs...so this may not be a bad thing. As long as he had a good experience there, that may be all he could expect right now.

Thoughts, anyone?

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04-30-2008, 08:03 PM
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I've never heard of a player being released from an ATO, so this can't be a good thing.

Sheesh, I hope I'm wrong.

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04-30-2008, 08:23 PM
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I've never heard of a player being released from an ATO, so this can't be a good thing.

Sheesh, I hope I'm wrong.
Hopefully someone from the area will check in on the situation. It may not be a bad thing, maybe he had to go home or somewhere for some reason, who knows? Or he was disappointed by not getting game time instead of just team practice.

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04-30-2008, 09:02 PM
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Go on the AHL website to transactions.....you'll see players released from ATO's and PTO's all the time.

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What's the likelyhood that I get to see him Sunday in Rockford?

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What's the likelyhood that I get to see him Sunday in Rockford?
Zero.
He only played one AHL game and has recently been released from his ATO.

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Zero.
He only played one AHL game and has recently been released from his ATO.
Yes, but we are wondering how his stay went. Espo didn't play a lot but was it a good experience for him or did he expect to get a lot of ice time and left angry or what?

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Yes, but we are wondering how his stay went. Espo didn't play a lot but was it a good experience for him or did he expect to get a lot of ice time and left angry or what?
I wouldn't worry about it too much, it could be as simple as him pulling the plug after one game just so that he doesn't risk injury until he has a NHL rookie contract in place. I'm kind of surprised he even played a AHL game on a ATO, Luca Caputi for the Pens didn't touch the ice on his ATO until he had his NHL deal signed.

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I wouldn't worry about it too much, it could be as simple as him pulling the plug after one game just so that he doesn't risk injury until he has a NHL rookie contract in place. I'm kind of surprised he even played a AHL game on a ATO, Luca Caputi for the Pens didn't touch the ice on his ATO until he had his NHL deal signed.
My thoughts exactly.

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I also think it is much more problematic to add a top line C to a team at this point in the playoffs.

Espo is not going to bring much to a 3rd or 4th line, he isn't that physical and I don't think he is a PK specialist kind of player.

Now if one of the Wolves top C's get injured in the next couple of rounds they may regret this, but from a pure depth perspective it makes more sense to keep a guy who can give you more off the bench than Espo can at this stage of his career.

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Thanks everybody. Mainly, I didn't want to hear about a motivation type of problem or something like that. Supposedly Esposito had regressed the last year or two. Heck, he probably wants some summer vacation like anybody does.

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Thanks everybody. Mainly, I didn't want to hear about a motivation type of problem or something like that. Supposedly Esposito had regressed the last year or two. Heck, he probably wants some summer vacation like anybody does.

not so sure.. thats what a player who is trying to shows everyone wrong (being a bust) must think..most prospect would like to stay around the team.. even if they dont play.. but oh well.. its Esposito afterall.


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Go on the AHL website to transactions.....you'll see players released from ATO's and PTO's all the time.
I did not know that. What does a player get paid on an ATO typically? I figured next to nothing. To me, it seems even if the player never plays a game it's still a valuable experience to keep them around.

The NHL contract issue angle from Esposito's perspective does make sense, though. Spencer Mahachek and Riley Holzapfel both have NHL deals and have not been released. I can see Espo not wanting to take any more risks before signing his real deal being the case here.

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Seems more likely that Chicago doesn't want to bump on of their own players to give Esposito a roster spot. That's not a slam against Espo but it would be difficult for any player to join a new team at the start of a second round playoff series and earn a spot over one of the regulars. It's my understanding that the Wolves, not the Thrashers, have final say on who plays and who sits.

Is Esposito too old to play with the Remparts next season?

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Is Esposito too old to play with the Remparts next season?
I believe the issue is this, and if I am wrong someone please correct me:

Once Esposito signs an NHL contract, he will be too young to play in the AHL. So even though he signed a free agent deal with the Wolves, once the Thrashers sign him he can either play as an overage player in the juniors or join the Thrashers roster.

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I believe the issue is this, and if I am wrong someone please correct me:

Once Esposito signs an NHL contract, he will be too young to play in the AHL. So even though he signed a free agent deal with the Wolves, once the Thrashers sign him he can either play as an overage player in the juniors or join the Thrashers roster.
I believe you are correct, CHl players have to be 20 at the beginning of the season, or have their chl team eliminated before they can play in the ahl.

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OK, not trying to be a know-it-all; just want to try to clear it up definitely. We used to debate this on the AHL board all the time, so we stickied a thread about the eligibility.

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Since this question seems to come up over and over again:

There is a private agreement in place between the NHL and the CHL that governs when a player coming from the CHL can play in the AHL. A player from the CHL has to either turn 20 by December 31st of the season (ie a player born in 1987 can start playing in the 2007-08 season, a player born in 1988 can start playing in the 2008-09 season etc.) OR have completed 4 seasons of junior eligibility. This agreement also covers European players if they are drafted out of the CHL (Examples would be players like Petr Vrana and Ivan Vishnevskiy). Also - CHL players are eligible to play in the AHL once their junior season is over (either by virtue of their junior team not making the playoffs or being eliminated from the playoffs) even if they don't yet meet the age or eligibility criteria listed above.

College players and European players (provided they are drafted out of Europe--even if they later play in the CHL) are not covered by this agreement. They only have to abide by the AHL's age requirement, which is that a player has to turn 18 by September 15 of any given season to be eligible to play. While you won't see many 18-year olds in the AHL, some European players have played at that age (e.g. Niklas Bergfors)
Angelo Esposito was born 2/20/89 and has only completed three years in the QMJHL. So, by my understanding, he will not eligible for AHL next year regardless of whether or not he signs an NHL contract.

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Nice avatar

Hopefully the Wolves get the series started right tonight.

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Seems more likely that Chicago doesn't want to bump on of their own players to give Esposito a roster spot. That's not a slam against Espo but it would be difficult for any player to join a new team at the start of a second round playoff series and earn a spot over one of the regulars.
That's exactly what this is. Esposito did not impress this year to be sure, but anyone flipping out about this needs to realize not everything is a critique on his abilities.

It's like if the Thrashers were in the second round and Andrew Kozek was coming off a decent AHL season that was now over; you're not going to throw him onto the roster.

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