My comments have been posted yet but estentially I told him that major changes need to be made before we Habs fans (who do not speak French) move away from RDS.
His first two points are right and he might technically be right on the third. Don Cherry is not anti-Montreal, but there is not doubt he dislikes the Canadiens. He likes some of the players, but he just can't bring himself to root them on too much, even when they are the last canadian team left. I have no problem with him not liking the Habs, but they should make him tone down the Bruins perspective a bit all the time.
Much like an official calling an even-up penalty, I felt like Don Cherry was going out of his way to be pro-habs last night. An even-up Coach's Corner you could say. The way he went on about Price was possible because the hockey media is Price crazy now, but then he did a segment on Brisebois and his goal. That was over the top for me. Something isn't right is what I immediately thought.
His first two points are right and he might technically be right on the third. Don Cherry is not anti-Montreal, but there is not doubt he dislikes the Canadiens. He likes some of the players, but he just can't bring himself to root them on too much, even when they are the last canadian team left. I have no problem with him not liking the Habs, but they should make him tone down the Bruins perspective a bit all the time.
Especially when the Ruins are loosing and Cherry goes "Go Bees!!" and Ron just looks away ashamed with a -what a weirdo!- smile on his face... (I think that was game 1 or 2).
Cherry and Stock are truly biased towards the Bruins... and the rest are hockey fans first, why not get some ex-Habs players like Damphousse or someone else, just to level the playing field.
And most English fans are right. HINC was too much pro-Leafs and jumped on the Habs bandwagon this year because the team was far better than the Laffs... I wonder what would've happened if the Leafs finished in the top 8, along with Ottawa and Montreal and none of them would've met in the 1st round, would we see all Habs games in the 1st round? I doubt it.
And in this series, truly noted a favorism towards Boston beating Montreal. Might just be their hope of a long matchup... who knows...
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Much like an official calling an even-up penalty, I felt like Don Cherry was going out of his way to be pro-habs last night. An even-up Coach's Corner you could say. The way he went on about Price was possible because the hockey media is Price crazy now, but then he did a segment on Brisebois and his goal. That was over the top for me. Something isn't right is what I immediately thought.
And coincidently, he did that just one day before Scott Moore makes this communique. Did The Don get some orders from above??
Seriously i have watched every Hockey Nights in Canada that broacasted Habs games and i never tought it was anti-Montreal or anti-Habs. Maybe if i was pointed out at every time they did something wrong i would think differently, but to my own understanding it was a regular canadian hockey show with interesting, most of the times, Habs analysis. But i agree that sometimes they were talking to people like if they didn't know anything about the CH or like it was the first time they heard about a hockey team in Montreal.
IMO the thing that hurts CBC the most is Mr. Cole. He is a broadcasting legend, but is way past his prime. Clearly he doesn't have the league wide knowledge anymore and that is irritating. Anybody who has watched CBC's coverage of Pittsburgh - Ottawa or seen the late games notices the HUGE difference between Hughson and Cole.
And hiring P.J Stock wasn't a brilliant move either IMO. There are MUCH better analysts out there who would be more objective and offer better insight. Just within their own team, Kelly Hrudey, is a TON better than P.J.
I expect Bob Cole to retire after this season, I hope so anyone and I really really look forward to listen to Jim Hughson, who I think is brilliant, best in the business right now.
His first two points are right and he might technically be right on the third. Don Cherry is not anti-Montreal, but there is not doubt he dislikes the Canadiens. He likes some of the players, but he just can't bring himself to root them on too much, even when they are the last canadian team left. I have no problem with him not liking the Habs, but they should make him tone down the Bruins perspective a bit all the time.
There is a pretty good pile of evidnece though that Don is anti-French to a certain degree.
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""This is crazy. We show EVERY Canadian team in the playoffs."
Stretching the story a bit, aren't we? If the Leafs were in the Playoffs, the entire country would be subjected to Leaf Nation, with only NFLD and Quebec being able to watch Les Habitants.
"This year, we had 19 Habs games on Hockey Night in Canada. That’s up from 13 last year. (And we’d really love to do more next season)."
Of those 19 games, how many were against Toronto? Thats right, 8. So, you only broadcast 11 Montreal games nationally when the Leaf's weren't involved. 11 games from the best team in Canada... hmm.. your story isn't holding much water.
Scott Moore, you may be a Habs fan but the CBC is clearly only interested in one team, one market and little else."
IMO the thing that hurts CBC the most is Mr. Cole. He is a broadcasting legend, but is way past his prime. Clearly he doesn't have the league wide knowledge anymore and that is irritating. Anybody who has watched CBC's coverage of Pittsburgh - Ottawa or seen the late games notices the HUGE difference between Hughson and Cole.
And hiring P.J Stock wasn't a brilliant move either IMO. There are MUCH better analysts out there who would be more objective and offer better insight. Just within their own team, Kelly Hrudey, is a TON better than P.J.
I expect Bob Cole to retire after this season, I hope so anyone and I really really look forward to listen to Jim Hughson, who I think is brilliant, best in the business right now.
And Lo and Behold... Hughson is on the Pittsburg/Ottawa matchup....
I'm willing to bet he'll be covering Pittsburg in the second round and Cole will remain on the Habs coverage... yet another example of how the Habs are secondary to CBC. Their useful only for the ratings when their beloved Laffs are out of the playoffs.
And Lo and Behold... Hughson is on the Pittsburg/Ottawa matchup....
I'm willing to bet he'll be covering Pittsburg in the second round and Cole will remain on the Habs coverage... yet another example of how the Habs are secondary to CBC. Their useful only for the ratings when their beloved Laffs are out of the playoffs.
Thats the part that REALLY irritated me. You send your best color man to Pitt - Ottawa when clearly the ratings boost would come from Habs - Bruins ...
I am not sure Moore has the balls to send make Cole no.2 in the pecking order at CBC right now, clearly right now its Bob Cole no.1, Hughson no.2 and that is KILLING them. I am convinced a LOT of fans would come back if Hughson was the color man, the man is brilliant.
Thats the part that REALLY irritated me. You send your best color man to Pitt - Ottawa when clearly the ratings boost would come from Habs - Bruins ...
I am not sure Moore has the balls to send make Cole no.2 in the pecking order at CBC right now, clearly right now its Bob Cole no.1, Hughson no.2 and that is KILLING them. I am convinced a LOT of fans would come back if Hughson was the color man, the man is brilliant.
Much like an official calling an even-up penalty, I felt like Don Cherry was going out of his way to be pro-habs last night. An even-up Coach's Corner you could say. The way he went on about Price was possible because the hockey media is Price crazy now, but then he did a segment on Brisebois and his goal. That was over the top for me. Something isn't right is what I immediately thought.
1-They've admitted to losing viewers to RDS.
2-They're getting letters from anglos who have made the switch as to why.
3-They're getting bashed all over the place by not only Habs fans, but non-Leaf fans all over Canada. Seriously. People are like, ***, a Canadian team is doing well why can't we see it, *******s?
4-Even Macleans joined in, when, much earlier in the season, they featured CBC's insistence on overcovering the oversucky Leafs under the "Bad News" column on their weekly roundup-type page.
5-They get people like us bashing them all over the internets.
Yeah, I think Cherry got called into someone's office for the **** talk. I think Scott Moore got called into someone's office for the **** talk. I think there was a meeting and everybody involved got the **** talk. It must have been big for them to actually do something (even if it was something we can all see right through).
I always thought CBC was biased towards the Leafs but last year, when we played our last game of the season against the Leafs was the last straw. The broadcast starts with Cherry wearing a Leaf blue suit surrounded by Leafs fans cheering Go Leafs Go, saying "we have to take it to them early, we have to get to Huet, blah blah blah. "We". I didn't realize there was only 1 Canadian team playing that night, what a disaster CBC has become.
The CBC doesn't have to stroke our ego like Cherry was blatantly doing last night, just be unbiased, analyze the game in front of you (enough with Savy's freaking stick for Price sake), and give credit where credit is due. I really do enjoy watching RDS but as an Anglo-Franco-Italian I look forward to the English broadcasts as it is my first language.
Anyways I hope The Score is getting the Habs english games next year.
There is a pretty good pile of evidnece though that Don is anti-French to a certain degree.
Which is a shame because I really like the old fart. I think he is entertaining, but not only that. He is really knowledgeable about the game and is a passionate guy. I don't know where the Quebecois hate comes from, but I am sure if I was to meet him in a street or something, we would have a nice discussion.
Which is a shame because I really like the old fart. I think he is entertaining, but not only that. He is really knowledgeable about the game and is a passionate guy. I don't know where the Quebecois hate comes from, but I am sure if I was to meet him in a street or something, we would have a nice discussion.
Which is a shame because I really like the old fart. I think he is entertaining, but not only that. He is really knowledgeable about the game and is a passionate guy. I don't know where the Quebecois hate comes from, but I am sure if I was to meet him in a street or something, we would have a nice discussion.
If he'd met me, we'd have a nice conversation too, and then you'd see him all black with feathers everywhere.
1-They've admitted to losing viewers to RDS.
2-They're getting letters from anglos who have made the switch as to why.
3-They're getting bashed all over the place by not only Habs fans, but non-Leaf fans all over Canada. Seriously. People are like, ***, a Canadian team is doing well why can't we see it, *******s?
4-Even Macleans joined in, when, much earlier in the season, they featured CBC's insistence on overcovering the oversucky Leafs under the "Bad News" column on their weekly roundup-type page.
5-They get people like us bashing them all over the internets.
Yeah, I think Cherry got called into someone's office for the **** talk. I think Scott Moore got called into someone's office for the **** talk. I think there was a meeting and everybody involved got the **** talk. It must have been big for them to actually do something (even if it was something we can all see right through).
That's me. I am an Italian-Canadian living in Vancouver so it difficult for me to understand French. However, I have been forced from a very young age to watch the Habs in French and have obtained enough of a vocabulary that I can read the articles on RDS and understand, for the most part, the announcers on RDS. In an indirect way the CBC has enabled me to have to learn a bit of Canada's other official language. What a conspiracy .
As for the CBC broadcasts, I no longer watch them. Their praise for the Habs seems insincere whenever they do praise them. This series was the last straw for me. I started watching it on CBC but the biases were too much to handle: Don Cherry and PJ Stock (why does the latter even have a job?). No need to expatiate on what it is that they said because we all know what it was.
Comments are funny to read and most of them are darn right.
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(ps Here's an idea for how to win Habs fans back- Maybe Don Cherry could show 15 year old footage of Alex Kovalev diving over and over and over again. Or maybe you could get our favorite local full-time habs basher PJ stock to represent Montreal on HNIC.)
I don't understand why they asked PJ to talk about this series. Can't find anyone more suited for this ?
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No one is asking for you guys to cheer for the Habs outright, but a little objectivity (instead of the token Muller love from Cherry) and quality (Hughson/Simpson as the announcers instead of the tired Bob Cole/Millen combo) in your broadcasts is not too much to ask for.
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