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06-09-2008, 03:02 PM
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Ryan Craig for 3rd line center??
Great point about Craig.. He should slot into that third line role until Halpern comes back and then possibly move to the wing.

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Ryan Craig for 3rd line center??
I agree with this, if you read Feasters Q&A he mentions experimenting with Craig on the Halpern line.

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No thanks on Stillman coming back. He didn't "fit in" the locker room and never looked happy here.

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No thanks on Stillman coming back. He didn't "fit in" the locker room and never looked happy here.
I don't buy that.. he had has greatest season of his career here in Tampa, besides basically the entire locker room minus Lecavalier, St. Louis, Boyle, and a few others is different.

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I don't think Stillman has looked happy anywhere. I know there were rumors that he was trouble in 4 of the 5 NHL stops he has made (everywhere but Carolina). I don't know if I would bring him back for that reason alone but I wasn't in the lockerroom either.

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I don't buy that.. he had has greatest season of his career here in Tampa, besides basically the entire locker room minus Lecavalier, St. Louis, Boyle, and a few others is different.
Oh, please, he had the greatest "statisical" season because he had the best linemates in the league that season and it was a magical "career" season for just about everyone on our team. The man never smiled and rolled his eyes more times than I could count in a game. And he was never a fan of Andy's philosophy of organizing team activities on the road outside the rink. He didn't believe in the whole chemistry thing.

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I thought I read in EE's blog they were close to a deal. He isn't a bad option as long as he can stay healthy. Unfortunately, that's probably not going to happen with the knee problems he's had throughout his career.

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The man never smiled and rolled his eyes more times than I could count in a game.
Now that makes him a bad person.

So you have to smile during a game in order be into the game and be a good teammate?

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Oh, please, he had the greatest "statisical" season because he had the best linemates in the league that season and it was a magical "career" season for just about everyone on our team. The man never smiled and rolled his eyes more times than I could count in a game. And he was never a fan of Andy's philosophy of organizing team activities on the road outside the rink. He didn't believe in the whole chemistry thing.
There is no denying the guy has been successful pretty much wherever he has played and obviously he was locked in and ready to play here in Tampa despite your observations. If you have some reliable sources that show he "wasn't a fan of Andy's philosphy of organizing team activities" or that he "didn't beleive in the whole chemisty thing" I'd love to take a look.

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There is no denying the guy has been successful pretty much wherever he has played and obviously he was locked in and ready to play here in Tampa despite your observations. If you have some reliable sources that show he "wasn't a fan of Andy's philosphy of organizing team activities" or that he "didn't beleive in the whole chemisty thing" I'd love to take a look.
Knowing how often she talks with Andreychuk, I'd suggest that you believe what she says.

I take it as gospel.

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Oh, please, he had the greatest "statisical" season because he had the best linemates in the league that season and it was a magical "career" season for just about everyone on our team. The man never smiled and rolled his eyes more times than I could count in a game. And he was never a fan of Andy's philosophy of organizing team activities on the road outside the rink. He didn't believe in the whole chemistry thing.
Wow, he sure was a problem for this team to overcome. Amazing that the other players allowed his name to be put on the Cup.

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Knowing how often she talks with Andreychuk, I'd suggest that you believe what she says.

I take it as gospel.
Ah, inside information! Gotta love that. Well I hear ya then. There are certainly other wingers that the Lightning can target. Hopefully we'll hear a budget from OK shortly after he takes over.

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06-21-2008, 09:05 AM
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Really when you go down the line, there are so many question marks. Good question marks none the less. When you look at who we have and who we still need to sign and who we will target during free agency it just makes me wonder. Not to mention the players who played their butts off last year that are sitting on the bubble. So I will try to attempt to make a roster for next year now that we kind of know where we stand with some players. I will make changes as we find out how things play out. Feel free to rip.........

Prospal - Lecavalier - St. Louis (I feel Prospal will sign for less than market value, just to be back playing with the top line in the NHL again. He never wanted to be traded in the first place)

Jarkko Ruutu- Stamkos - Ouellet (The empty spot or spots on this line is a crap shoot. But in my opinion Ruutu compliment's well with skill players. Stamkos' speed and puck handling capabilities mixed with Ouellet's presence along the boards and his sniper shot.......... I am drooling already.......)

Darche - Halpern/Jones - Wanvig/Radim Vrbata (This line is a crap shoot also but I believe we have to get younger Darche is in his 30's happy is getting up there plus comming off injury and I dont feel we get enough out of Macdonald, lessard and we dont know how Craig's health is going to be. I think we will be looking out very hard in the open market for bodies to fill these positions. I choose Radim Vrbata from Phoenix.)

Tarnasky - Gratton - R2 ( There is rumors about bringing Roy back, but I dont want him back. This is our big fourth line. Mark my words now this will be Tarnasky's break out season. I am not saying he scores 20 goals or anything but I believe he will be a difference maker in several games this year.

Defense

Boyle - Picard

Ranger - Wade Redden (I am hoping he comes to Tampa.....Please Oren bring him to the sunshine state)

Lundin - Smaby

Goalies:

I think Smith will start the year but Ramo will have the job fulltime some time during the season. Would not be suprised if we went after any of the goalies that are sitting out there (i.e- Huet- Theodore - Emery- Holmqvist (again)

Now all of this is not set in stone and this is just my opinion
For all of the other guys that we still have, They will be sent back down for future consideration and Injury replacements.


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06-21-2008, 12:23 PM
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Really when you go down the line, there are so many question marks. Good question marks none the less. When you look at who we have and who we still need to sign and who we will target during free agency it just makes me wonder. Not to mention the players who played their butts off last year that are sitting on the bubble. So I will try to attempt to make a roster for next year now that we kind of know where we stand with some players. I will make changes as we find out how things play out. Feel free to rip.........

Prospal - Lecavalier - St. Louis (I feel Prospal will sign for less than market value, just to be back playing with the top line in the NHL again. He never wanted to be traded in the first place)

Jarkko Ruutu- Stamkos - Ouellet (The empty spot or spots on this line is a crap shoot. But in my opinion Ruutu compliment's well with skill players. Stamkos' speed and puck handling capabilities mixed with Ouellet's presence along the boards and his sniper shot.......... I am drooling already.......)

Darche - Halpern/Jones - Wanvig/Radim Vrbata (This line is a crap shoot also but I believe we have to get younger Darche is in his 30's happy is getting up there plus comming off injury and I dont feel we get enough out of Macdonald, lessard and we dont know how Craig's health is going to be. I think we will be looking out very hard in the open market for bodies to fill these positions. I choose Radim Vrbata from Phoenix.)

Tarnasky - Gratton - R2 ( There is rumors about bringing Roy back, but I dont want him back. This is our big fourth line. Mark my words now this will be Tarnasky's break out season. I am not saying he scores 20 goals or anything but I believe he will be a difference maker in several games this year.

Defense

Boyle - Picard

Ranger - Wade Redden (I am hoping he comes to Tampa.....Please Oren bring him to the sunshine state)

Lundin - Smaby

Goalies:

I think Smith will start the year but Ramo will have the job fulltime some time during the season. Would not be suprised if we went after any of the goalies that are sitting out there (i.e- Huet- Theodore - Emery- Holmqvist (again)

Now all of this is not set in stone and this is just my opinion
For all of the other guys that we still have, They will be sent back down for future consideration and Injury replacements.
Ok...I have a couple problems with what you've said, but try not to take it personal, as they are just my opinions.

1. Jarkko Ruutu. Do you mean Jussi Jokinen, or do you actually want to bring in the Finnish Sean Avery? I hate Jarkko Ruutu (I really do), and it would suck having him on this team, let alone with Stamkos. To put Stamkos on a line with someone like Ruutu could really damage him in his rookie year.

2. Ouellet on the 2nd line. I really like MO, and I have since he played for Pittsburgh, but the line of Darche Halpern Ouellet last year was amazing for the players that were on it. It doesn't need to be touched (even though Halpy is out until Jan.), and should be our 3rd line.

3. Your opinion on Darche. Darche is 32, but at the same time, he is coming off of a career year. As i said above, the DOH line is great, and does not really need to be touched.

4. Defense. Your defensive pairings don't make sense. Boyle-Picard does, but after the season Ranger spent picking up the slack for Boyle (and at times, the only one who actually played any defense), I think he should be first line w/DB. Also, where are Kuba and SOB? Kuba is a Top 4 d-man, and should be paired with Picard on the #2 line. As much as I don't like SOB, he should be on the 3rd line with Lundin/Smaby/Lukowich/whoever else.

5. 2nd line RW. This kind of ties in w/#2, but I think a David Vyborny or Rolston (ideally Rolston) in free agency would help this team more than moving up MO to the 2nd line. However, until Halpy comes back, coaching may use moving mo to the 2nd line to give someone a chance at 4th line RW.

6. Goaltending. There is no reason for us to be in free agency w/goaltending. Ramo and Smith are fine as is, and that combo should not be touched unless one gets hurt, in which you bring up Denis/Boutin to keep the spot on the bench warm.

Thats all I got. You have some good ideas, but i just thought they could be tweaked a bit...

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You are right, I forgot the Juice--- Insert him in the second line with Stamkos and MO. I just think that we will still need to pick up a strong winger in free agency. (weather it be Ruutu or Rolston, Stillman) Then we can kind of mess with the sec. and third lines if things start to get a little dismal. I do agree about the Darche/Happy/MO line being the third but I dont think the line will be as strong as it was due to injury of happy. If it is as strong that will be a plus. I know there were a couple of times Tort's put the Juice in with Happy and MO and that seemed to work pretty good. Juice got a lot of assists. As far as Kuba, SOB and Luckowich. Something tells me we will be dealing one or all of these people to clear money and picking up a solid defensemen ( not that Kuba is not). I just dont Know. I hear what you are saying. If you want to go that route, how do you like this:

Rolston/V4/St.Louis

Juice/Stamkos/Prospal

Darche/Happy(Gratton)/MO

Tarnasky/Craig/R2

Boyle/Ranger

Kuba/Picard

Lundin/Smaby

Ramo/Smith

Put Denis on waivers, Trade SOB and Luckowich for 2009 draft picks

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There is no reason the MVP line should be broken up.

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There is no MVP line when you finish last in the NHL.

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Well..

Marty
Vinny
Prospal

M. V. P.

That would be the same if they were #1 or #30.

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1. Rolston will not leave the wild...no way
2. I think unless there is an awesome trade at hand S.O.B gets a spot over Lundin.
3. Have Lundin, Smaby, Mihalik battle for the spot.
4. Im not a B.Lukowich fan so to me, it doesnt matter what happens.

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MissK, I have one question I'm going to ask you..


What is the name of Dave Andreychuk's nephew, who is a 1990-born and currently located in Vancouver.

If you know Dave then you should know this one.

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Ok...I have a couple problems with what you've said, but try not to take it personal, as they are just my opinions.

1. Jarkko Ruutu. Do you mean Jussi Jokinen, or do you actually want to bring in the Finnish Sean Avery? I hate Jarkko Ruutu (I really do), and it would suck having him on this team, let alone with Stamkos. To put Stamkos on a line with someone like Ruutu could really damage him in his rookie year.
Just your opinion of course, but what kind of "damage" would occur to Stamkos with Ruutu playing here if he were to sign? While I agree they'd never be on the same line, your saying this makes even less sense than him posting it in the first place. Ruutu is a pest on the ice, but is a well liked guy and isnt anything even remotely near the cancer in the locker room that a Avery is. This comes off as uninformed and based on not liking his style of play only. In fact he hasnt had any incidents with teammates on or off the ice to my knowledge and he's a guy I like and have followed from Finland to Vancouver to Pittsburgh.

I'd be first in line for a Ruutu jersey if he was to come here but it wouldnt happen. Heck, the guy is a shootout specialist to boot and why not have two of them in him and Jokinen

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Just your opinion of course, but what kind of "damage" would occur to Stamkos with Ruutu playing here if he were to sign? While I agree they'd never be on the same line, your saying this makes even less sense than him posting it in the first place. Ruutu is a pest on the ice, but is a well liked guy and isnt anything even remotely near the cancer in the locker room that a Avery is. This comes off as uninformed and based on not liking his style of play only. In fact he hasnt had any incidents with teammates on or off the ice to my knowledge and he's a guy I like and have followed from Finland to Vancouver to Pittsburgh.

I'd be first in line for a Ruutu jersey if he was to come here but it wouldnt happen. Heck, the guy is a shootout specialist to boot and why not have two of them in him and Jokinen
since when? Call Jarkko what you want, but hes no s.o. specialist

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Just your opinion of course, but what kind of "damage" would occur to Stamkos with Ruutu playing here if he were to sign? While I agree they'd never be on the same line, your saying this makes even less sense than him posting it in the first place. Ruutu is a pest on the ice, but is a well liked guy and isnt anything even remotely near the cancer in the locker room that a Avery is. This comes off as uninformed and based on not liking his style of play only. In fact he hasnt had any incidents with teammates on or off the ice to my knowledge and he's a guy I like and have followed from Finland to Vancouver to Pittsburgh.

I'd be first in line for a Ruutu jersey if he was to come here but it wouldnt happen. Heck, the guy is a shootout specialist to boot and why not have two of them in him and Jokinen
The "damage" I refer to would be Stamkos having to play down to Ruutu's level. As the original poster put it (or so I read it), Ruutu would be on the 2nd line w/Stamkos. I would much rather have Stamkos on a 2nd line w/a quick Jussi Jokinen who knows how to pass the puck and a decent right wing. The 2nd line should be a scoring line, and putting Ruutu over Jokinen on there would not generate the scoring that Jokinen over Ruutu would.

The only beef I have w/Jarkko is if he were on the 2nd line. If he is brought in as a 4th liner, he can come right in. He bugs the **** out of me, but if he were on my team, i'm sure i'd grow to like him...as long as he wasn't on Stamkos' line.

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Hey guys, Congrats on Stamkos, and Locking up Vinny!

Just a friendly Habs fan, and ever since Vinny was drafted to Tampa I've been somewhat of a Tampa fan aswell.


Food for thought: You guys think you might go after Raycroft?

This has nothing to do with the Habs, I was just wondering. ^_^

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