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04-25-2008, 03:23 PM
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I have mullin's pick. (He seems to have gone off-line for a little bit). The Trail Smoke Eaters (again, I'm getting nostalgic as I type this) are pleased to select a hard-nosed player who co-captained a Cup champ: RW Jim Peplinski.

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Haha... I'll take that as a compliment With Davidson picked, Berlinquette had chances to be picked earlier than later. I had REALLY pegged him at this spot since round 12, but the Davidson pick made Berlinquette a MUST PICK...

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And now for our double-dip....

Nobody will be shocked with our first pick. The Ottawa RCAF Flyers are pleased to select, as our back-up goalie, one of the true greats from the early years of the game. He back-stopped the last Vancouver team to win a Stanley Cup, and the perennial raleh favourite: G Hugh Lehman.

And with our second pick, the Ottawa RCAF Flyers are proud to select a rough-and-tumble defensive defenceman who won five Cups in his career, including one with the great Broad Street Bullies: D Ted Harris.

More to come later today.

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04-25-2008, 03:33 PM
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Haha... I'll take that as a compliment With Davidson picked, Berlinquette had chances to be picked earlier than later. I had REALLY pegged him at this spot since round 12, but the Davidson pick made Berlinquette a MUST PICK...
That was pretty much my thought process as well. I was planning on taking one of Davidson or Berlinquette towards the end of the draft, but once LL took Davidson I changed my plan to take him with my next pick.

Back to the drawing board I guess.

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And now for our double-dip....

Nobody will be shocked with our first pick. The Ottawa RCAF Flyers are pleased to select, as our back-up goalie, one of the true greats from the early years of the game. He back-stopped the last Vancouver team to win a Stanley Cup, and the perennial raleh favourite: G Hugh Lehman.
Maybe the least surprising pick of the draft.

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And with our second pick, the Ottawa RCAF Flyers are proud to select a rough-and-tumble defensive defenceman who won five Cups in his career, including one with the great Broad Street Bullies: D Ted Harris.
Good choice, he's a guy I could see going earlier. He's one of the better fighters in the draft too, at least among players who can be regulars in the lineup. He would have been somewhat redundant on the Clippers though with Horner and Dutton already.

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04-25-2008, 04:26 PM
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0.322, 2 HR, 21 RBI, 4 Stolen Bases.

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The Miners select Fred Stanfield




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In Boston, Stanfield joined Johnny McKenzie and Johnny Bucyk to form what is often considered to have been the best second line in hockey from 1967 to 1972. Known as "Steady Freddie." Stanfield had a reputation as a player who showed up to play every night. His hard work, fine skating and face-off prowess endeared him to the Bruin fans and made an important contribution to the team's two Stanley Cup victories in 1970 and 1972.

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04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
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Really pleased to add Mike Liut. The one criticism against Hap Holmes that can't be disputed is that he never played a long season. With Mike Liut we get an elite regular season goalie who can play 50-60 games and then sit on the bench in the post season where Holmes is the man.

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The Wanderers add some speed and defensive awareness to their forwards corps by picking the lone guy remaining with a claim at being the best defensive forward of his era, LW LOUIS BERLINQUETTE

(other pick coming shortly on a separate post)
You mean best defensive specialist.... Nighbor was the superior defensive player.

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04-25-2008, 05:22 PM
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Stanfield is a good pick, he never seems to get any recognition.

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Stanfield is a good pick, he never seems to get any recognition.
Stanfield is a good pick-very under-rated. I always try to get guys like Stanfield or Rene Robert with a late round pick as they are great power play point men and I like to fill my 4th line with good PP or Pk guys.

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The Wanderers add some scoring prowesses and toughness to their blueline by adding :








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GM's probably recognized double-tough Albert Battleship Leduc
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

He went 775th last draft. I can't understand why. He's got everything you'd want. I was prepared to take him significantly higher than he went last time, just to make sure I'd get him. But alas, you beat me to it

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04-25-2008, 05:36 PM
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In today's headlines...

Familiar face reunites with Flyers' leadership
By Dickie Dunn

The Ottawa RCAF Flyers brought back a familiar face in net, and added a little more toughness to their blue-line, with back-to-back picks in the 18th round of the All-Time Draft.
With their first selection, the team selected goaltender Hughie Lehman to be the back-up to starter Gerry Cheevers. With their second selection, the club added tough five-time Stanley Cup champion Ted Harris.
Lehman was the back-up for the club in the last ATD. Co-GM raleh has had Lehman in every ATD.
"He's definitely a raleh favourite," said co-GM God Bless Canada. "Can't imagine a team with raleh at the helm not having Lehman."
Lehman will be counted on to play 30 to 35 games, said GBC. It's a heavier workload than most back-ups, but Lehman is better than most back-ups.
"I think he's one of the top three back-ups in the draft. Alex Connell and Roger Crozier are the only ones that come to mind who are at Lehman's level. Lehman's better than at least one No. 1 goalie, and he's on a similar level than a few others."
Lehman was a star in the strong west coast leagues. He was an all-star in 10 of 13 seasons, and led the league in goals against average five times. He backstopped the Vancouver Millionaires to the Stanley Cup in 1915.
With the club's second pick, they snared rough-and-tumble defensive defenceman Ted Harris. GBC said Harris was the player they targeted for the role after Dallas Smith was picked nearly 60 spots earlier.
"We think he has a lot of similarities to Smith," said GBC. "He's a tough, defensive rock. He maybe doesn't have as much offensive upside as Smith, but I think Harris is tougher."
Harris will be counted on to take care of his own zone and clear the front of the net. GBC said Harris will be invaluable against punishing power forwards like Joe Thornton, Mark Messier and Jean Beliveau who are in the Flyers' division.
"We liked the toughness and defensive presence of our defence before today," said GBC. "Now we really like it."
Harris won five Cups - four with the Montreal Canadiens (1965, 1966, 1968 and 1969) and one with the Philadelphia Flyers (1975). He was a second-team all-star with Montreal in 1969.


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Really pleased to add Mike Liut. The one criticism against Hap Holmes that can't be disputed is that he never played a long season. With Mike Liut we get an elite regular season goalie who can play 50-60 games and then sit on the bench in the post season where Holmes is the man.



You mean best defensive specialist.... Nighbor was the superior defensive player.
Well... I really meant defensive forward (specialist or not). I'll never imply that Berlinquette was a better player than Nighbor - not my kind to aimlessly pimp my guys, even if Berlinquette totals were decent for a guy that got 1/4 of IT for the era - that would be stupid. This said, as far as defensive aspects of the game are concerned, he definitely has a claim (his main rival being Nighbor), whether this claim is right or wrong.

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NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

He went 775th last draft. I can't understand why. He's got everything you'd want. I was prepared to take him significantly higher than he went last time, just to make sure I'd get him. But alas, you beat me to it
A bit like Berlinquette's pick... There was another D-Men, a bit similar to Leduc in regards to what he can bring to a team. Once this guy drafted (he was in the mix for a roster spot on the Wanderers), we knew we had to take Leduc ASAP.

I'lll add that there's at least two D-Mens remaining who can bring roughly the same things to a team than Leduc, including one faller.

EDIT.... not that much of a faller, actually.

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Well... I really meant defensive forward (specialist or not). I'll never imply that Berlinquette was a better player than Nighbor - not my kind to aimlessly pimp my guys, even if Berlinquette totals were decent for a guy that got 1/4 of IT for the era - that would be stupid. This said, as far as defensive aspects of the game are concerned, he definitely has a claim (his main rival being Nighbor), whether this claim is right or wrong.
You also have guys like Jack Walker and a couple of yet to be drafted forwards who I think could also lay claim, but Berlinquette is definitely up there.

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"I think he's one of the top three back-ups in the draft. Alex Connell and Joe Crozier are the only ones that come to mind who are at Lehman's level. Lehman's better than at least one No. 1 goalie, and he's on a similar level than a few others."
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That part really needs to be edited before publication, either with the words ROGER or LORNE CHABOT...

EDIT : There's a hockey player whose name was Joe Crozier. This said, his value for an ATD is pretty minimal, no matter how good the Aces were back then.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=10793

Doh... we both mentionned an undrafted player.

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That part really needs to be edited before publication, either with the words ROGER or LORNE CHABOT...

EDIT : There's a hockey player whose name was Joe Crozier. This said, his value for an ATD is pretty minimal, no matter how good the Aces were back then.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=10793

Doh... we both mentionned an undrafted player.
Yeah, I forgot about Chabot. He'd be the No. 2 back-up in the draft. After Connell. I did say "come to mind," and it's been so long since you picked Chabot that I'd forgotten he was a back-up.

The Crozier comment reminds me of Pat Burns' comment when Burns was intro'd as the new coach of the Leafs in 1992. Burns was asked what he knew about the team he was taking over. Burns mentioned a couple players. Then he said (paraphrasing) "And they have Darryl Gilmour." Oops. Way to confuse your franchise player with a career minor league goalie (he was in the LA Kings' organization at the time) who never played in the NHL.

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*shudder* I just realized 2/3 of my 4th line are Flames from their tough 80s teams. As much as they're solid additions I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

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Yeah, I forgot about Chabot. He'd be the No. 2 back-up in the draft. After Connell. I did say "come to mind," and it's been so long since you picked Chabot that I'd forgotten he was a back-up.
Meh, no love for our back-up Moog?


I think back-up goalies are a total crapshoot. There's the elite starters (Plante, Roy Sawchuk), then the next two tiers after that of starters (Hainsworth, Holecek, guys like that), IMO, then the elite backups/weak starters (Moog, Richter, etc.)

There's still a couple guys left that I think would make elite backups, especially in a 32 team draft. But after that, I think any of the next 15-20 guys are just a matter of preference.

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Yeah, I forgot about Chabot. He'd be the No. 2 back-up in the draft. After Connell. I did say "come to mind," and it's been so long since you picked Chabot that I'd forgotten he was a back-up.

The Crozier comment reminds me of Pat Burns' comment when Burns was intro'd as the new coach of the Leafs in 1992. Burns was asked what he knew about the team he was taking over. Burns mentioned a couple players. Then he said (paraphrasing) "And they have Darryl Gilmour." Oops. Way to confuse your franchise player with a career minor league goalie (he was in the LA Kings' organization at the time) who never played in the NHL.
God I miss Burns. Would walk over fire to get him to come back and coach the Leafs

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God I miss Burns. Would walk over fire to get him to come back and coach the Leafs
I remember Burns saying something about Bill Berg... Like... he was with the team for a year and still Burns wouldn't recognize him on the streets. Something like this.

Which brings back the point I had earlier : Nalyd and Fission will definitely ear some weird stuff in press conferences.

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Meh, no love for our back-up Moog?


I think back-up goalies are a total crapshoot. There's the elite starters (Plante, Roy Sawchuk), then the next two tiers after that of starters (Hainsworth, Holecek, guys like that), IMO, then the elite backups/weak starters (Moog, Richter, etc.)

There's still a couple guys left that I think would make elite backups, especially in a 32 team draft. But after that, I think any of the next 15-20 guys are just a matter of preference.
We like Moog. After we got McPhee, we decided now was the time to look at a back-up. Lehman was No. 1 on our list. Moog was No. 2. There wasn't a list after that. If we didn't get Lehman, we weren't going to pick a goalie with one of our back-to-backs.

Moog's a high-end back-up. In the top 10. But as good as Lehman. Lehman was a big star in the early years. One of the best from those great western leagues.

One thing about your back-up is you need him to be the ultimate team guy. With a format like this, you're back-up is a guy who was a star for a long time at a high level. You need a guy who can check the ego at the door, sit on the bench, and play cheerleader. Especially in the playoffs. Moog showed he can do that.

Lehman will play about 40 per cent of our games. Cheevers will play the rest. But once the playoffs start, Cheevers big-game, big-save mentality will get him the playing time.

I don't think Moog is good enough to be a No. 1. Great guy. Excellent goalie. But in an ATD? Goaltending's a liability if Moog's your No. 1. He won three Cups as a No. 1, and backstopped the Bruins to the 1990 Cup final. (He didn't play much in 88). He did play his way out of two cities with playoff performances (Boston in 1993 and Dallas in 1997) and his performance with Montreal against Buffalo in the 1998 playoffs was the main reason he decided to retire.

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I remember Burns saying something about Bill Berg... Like... he was with the team for a year and still Burns wouldn't recognize him on the streets. Something like this.

Which brings back the point I had earlier : Nalyd and Fission will definitely ear some weird stuff in press conferences.
Actually, the Burns-Bill Berg quip I remember was after the Leafs claimed Berg on waivers from the Islanders. (Incidentally, Berg was actually a pretty serviceable player for the Leafs for a few years). Burns was asked what Burns thought of Berg. Burns said "I wouldn't know him if I hit him with my car."

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Actually, the Burns-Bill Berg quip I remember was after the Leafs claimed Berg on waivers from the Islanders. (Incidentally, Berg was actually a pretty serviceable player for the Leafs for a few years). Burns was asked what Burns thought of Berg. Burns said "I wouldn't know him if I hit him with my car."
That's why Burns was so great in Toronto. Those early nineties teams weren't exactly stacked. But Burns made it work.

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Actually, the Burns-Bill Berg quip I remember was after the Leafs claimed Berg on waivers from the Islanders. (Incidentally, Berg was actually a pretty serviceable player for the Leafs for a few years). Burns was asked what Burns thought of Berg. Burns said "I wouldn't know him if I hit him with my car."
Exactly!

Hey pappyline... that pick was ages ago, but with Topazzini, no need to draft a 3rd stringer!

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