I searched and quite frankly, I'm astonished I didn't find a thread between these two. It's calsh of the titans we have there. If I didn't search properly and it was already done, then delete it please.
Anyways, it's pretty self explanatory, who do you consider the greatest player between Jaromir Jagr and Joe Sakic? Not just right now but, for all their career.
Hart Trophy - 1999
Finalist: 1995, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006
Art Ross Trophy - 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
Lester B. Pearson Award - 1999, 2000, 2006
NHL First Team All-Star - 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2006
NHL Second Team All-Star - 1997
NHL All-Rookie Team - 1991
Most consecutive 70+point seasons
Most consecutive 30+goal seasons
Tied for most all time overtime goals
Highest season 149 points 62 goals, 87 assists
Bud Light Plus/Minus Award 2001
Conn Smythe Trophy 1996
Hart Memorial Trophy 2001
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy 2001
Lester B. Pearson Award 2001
NHL First All-Star Team 2001, 2002, 2004
High of 120 most goals 54 most assists 69
Im not the least bit shocked by the fact that people are voting Sakic because of the huge anti Jagr bias on this forum, for all the leadership lovers is it really enough to compensate for an additional 2 pearsons all the art rosses the numerous years of being a Hart finalist. Jagr carried Pens teams that were absolutely horrible into the playoffs year after year, Jags also a hell of a good leader in Pittsburgh before the meltdown. Jagr gets so much crap on this forum its disgusting, people refer to him as soft but obviously didnt see when he was playing with what amounted to one arm in the playoffs, 99 against the Devils Jagr misses games 2-5 with a groin injury comes in and scores the game tieing and overtime winning goals in game 6. 155 points in 149 playoff games so lets not here any crap about how Sakic is such a great playoff performer because Jagr is aswell while ofcourse Sakics playoff numbers are a little better A the difference isnt enough to make a big deal of B Sakic spent more time with better linemates.. Jagr was regularly considered the premier player in the world, when did Sakic ever have that honor? not nearly as consistently as Jagr. However Sakic will continue to get the nice guy/leadership/Canadian/anyone but Jagr votes ignoring that Jagr is one of the greatest of all time.
There's a lot more to hockey than offensive numbers and Art Ross trophy's.
...And the year was 2001. When he beat Jagr for the honor.
I didnt say Sakic was never considered the best player in the world I said he wasnt considered the best player in the world nearly consistently as Jagr. Yeah there is more to hockey than offensive numbers and trophies but Sakic doesnt do enough ontop of what Jagr does to compensate the difference, Jagr had the better peak, has a much more decorated individual career has a comparable number of cups (Yes Jagr got his with Mario, Sakic had his share of superstars to play with aswell so no need to play this game) the only thing Sakic wins is leadership and even then Jagr in his prime was a great leader and was a great leader on the Rangers also.