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04-30-2008, 06:54 PM
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Gillis Adds Capologist

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...y/WBhockeyblog

"New Vancouver Canucks general manager Mike Gillis is on the verge of adding his first executive to the front office in former Phoenix Coyotes assistant GM Laurence Gilman."

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04-30-2008, 06:58 PM
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I still fail to see how hiring a Capologist is going to improve our scoring.

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04-30-2008, 06:59 PM
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I still fail to see how hiring a Capologist is going to improve our scoring.
Maybe he will confuse the other teams defense by crunching cap numbers?

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I still fail to see how hiring a Capologist is going to improve our scoring.
So, you're suggesting he should not have made this hire?

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I still fail to see how hiring a Capologist is going to improve our scoring.
So all hires should be made with scoring, and scoring only, in mind?

Here's a bit on Gilman: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ams_prospects/

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Maybe he will confuse the other teams defense by crunching cap numbers

...and spitting out cap space.

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Looks like a solid hire to me... maybe now we can figure out some loophole where we can bring Linden out of retirement for only the playoffs next year.

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Seems like a pretty obvious thing to do, but good on him.

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Some stuff some Google searches brought up, in case anyone is interested:

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When the next NHL general manager’s job opens up, don’t be surprised to see Laurence Gilman’s name climb to the top of the list of candidates. The Phoenix Coyotes assistant General Manager fits the new NHL mold perfectly -- he’s an attorney with keen hockey knowledge and a thorough command of the CBA, a must for NHL executives these days.
http://www2.msg.com/msg_content_news...rts=ice-hockey

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Gilman spent 13 seasons with the Coyotes, the last six as assistant general manager. Earlier, he held several positions, including director of hockey administration and legal counsel.
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"Possible Ferguson successors include Scotty Bowman, Glenn Healy, Neil Smith, Colin Campbell and other excellent GMs or assistants currently under contracts with other teams, including Detroit's assistant GM Jim Nill and Phoenix assistant Laurence Gilman, considered one of the best legal-salary cap minds in the NHL."
http://www.*******************/nhl/coyotes/rumors.html

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wow.
"one of the best salary-cap minds"

not bad. not bad at all.

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Does this mean Tambellini is gone? Seems kind of strange how Gillman would go from being an apparently highly thought of Assistant GM to being a used as a "capologist". But maybe there aren't any other job offers he wanted.

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"Gilman spent 13 seasons with the Coyotes, the last six as assistant general manager. Earlier, he held several positions, including director of hockey administration and legal counsel."

Based on that resume, wouldn't it almost seem that Gilman would have been a more logical choice for our GM, with Gillis being hired in a lesser role?

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04-30-2008, 07:28 PM
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Does this mean Tambellini is gone? Seems kind of strange how Gillman would go from being an apparently highly thought of Assistant GM to being a used as a "capologist". But maybe there aren't any other job offers he wanted.
Gillis specifically said he's going to keep Tamby and add a strictly numbers kind of guy to round out the front office.

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I'm impressed that Gillis was able to hire this guy when he seems to be a potential GM candidate. What exactly is he going to be doing though? other than being a CBA knowledge bank and crunching cap numbers? or is that something that will take up a hell of a lot of time?

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I'm impressed that Gillis was able to hire this guy when he seems to be a potential GM candidate. What exactly is he going to be doing though? other than being a CBA knowledge bank and crunching cap numbers? or is that something that will take up a hell of a lot of time?
I forget where I heard it, but apparently these capologists are working with a constant flow of information from league sources. Sounded like they were among the busiest execs.

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04-30-2008, 07:37 PM
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I'm impressed that Gillis was able to hire this guy when he seems to be a potential GM candidate. What exactly is he going to be doing though? other than being a CBA knowledge bank and crunching cap numbers? or is that something that will take up a hell of a lot of time?
At the press conference I seem to remember Gillis saying that the capologist would also be the main negotiator of contracts, which would be another thing on his plate.

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Based on that resume, wouldn't it almost seem that Gilman would have been a more logical choice for our GM, with Gillis being hired in a lesser role?
It seems as though Gillis will really be using quite a bit of delegation by utilizing people who are specialists in their roles for those roles specifically, which is something that you don't see a lot of in hockey but is something that is prominent in business.

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Does this mean Tambellini is gone?
Not necessarily, it seems he will be used in a talent evaluation/scouting type role.

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I'm impressed that Gillis was able to hire this guy when he seems to be a potential GM candidate. What exactly is he going to be doing though? other than being a CBA knowledge bank and crunching cap numbers? or is that something that will take up a hell of a lot of time?
It looks promising that Gillis using his ability to negotiate, can seem to convince qualified people to come to Vancouver.
Hopefully this translates into players wanting to come here as well

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Awesome, this is the type of job I'm looking into too. Hopefully this guy works out. Another person I wouldn't mind seeing in this type of role is Trevor Linden. He out of most people should have some of the best knowledge of the CBA.

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Aquaman, Gillis, Gilman? There's either a fish theme or they are catering to the Punjabi crowd.

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Does this mean Tambellini is gone? Seems kind of strange how Gillman would go from being an apparently highly thought of Assistant GM to being a used as a "capologist". But maybe there aren't any other job offers he wanted.
Is there room for 2 assistant GMs, one with a focus on talent and one with a focus on numbers? Probably not.

EDIT: I agree with above suggestion, maybe Tambellini takes the lead on scouting under his umbrella.

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Is there room for 2 assistant GMs, one with a focus on talent and one with a focus on numbers? Probably not.
Why not?

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Why not?
Usually salaries and ego play a role, but if you can stock a powerful management team, that's great. It may be a pre-emptive move as contingency for Tambellini leaving, but it's great if it's simply an upgrade to this team's management and nothing more.

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Usually salaries and ego play a role, but if you can stock a powerful management team, that's great. It may be a pre-emptive move as contingency for Tambellini leaving, but it's great if it's simply an upgrade to this team's management and nothing more.
I don't think Tamby is going to be around much longer anyways.. one of these days he is going to get his chance as a GM so year.. contingency certainly is a possibility.

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Some more on Gilman:

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One regular aspect of my day is to go into the scouting system each morning to see who our scouts are watching and to read their reports,” he explains about tracking prospects. “In essence, I know what guys are doing on a daily basis in either juniors, college or Europe. I am able to see how our prospects are progressing on a daily basis through the eyes of our scouts. In addition, I speak on a regular basis with our Chief Scout, Vaughn Karpan and Eddie Mio, our Director of Player Development.”
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“In order to truly understand how to build a winner from within, you look at all the championship teams of the past,” Gilman explains. “They all have a number one centerman.

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